A Guide to Gut Viruses

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by karinaxx, Oct 10, 2006.

  1. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    A Guide to Gut Viruses - how viruses "compete" with one another
    (this originally accompanied Jane Colby's article "ME - A polio by another name")
    By Doris Jones
    First published in WDDTY Newsletter December 1995 Vol. 6 No 9

    The advent of polio immunization in 1955 caused changes in the balance of the gut viral population, favouring the spread of ME.

    No doubt polio immunization (both the inactivated Salk vaccine and the live oral Sabin variety, introduced worldwide between 1954-1959) reduced circu­lation of the wild polio virus 1-3. However, it also altered the balance between enteroviruses, in favour of non-polio1o enteroviruses (NPEVs) (BMJ, 1961: 1061).

    For instance, in 1959, polio caused 84 per cent of enterovirus associated paralysis; by 1961, its incidence had fallen to 12 per cent. But after 1961, other en­teroviruses such as old and new varieties of Coxsackie caused 74 per cent of all enterovirus-associated paralytic disease. Between 1959-65, concludes Nightin­gale Research Foundation, there may have been a changeover from polio as the prevalent disease to ME and other diseases caused by enteroviruses.

    A similar changeover followed the introduction of oral polio vaccine (OPV) in China since 1971. The prior incidence of polio fell, while cases of Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS), another paralytic disease, rose sharply (The Lancet, October 8, 1994).

    These produce a much greater variety of symptoms, since NPEVs are more widely distributed m the body than is polio (muscle, joints, heart, en­docrine and lymphoid organs), according to ME specialist Dr Elizabeth Dowsett. Otherwise, lesions in brain stem, mid and hind brain and upper spinal cord are identical in polio and ME, according to 150 post mortems done on US Army veterans with a history of polio (JAMA, 1947; 134: 1148-54).

    In viral populations, the polio virus can easily be displaced by Echo or Coxsackie viruses, and this second enterovirus may be more virulent than the polio virus it replaces (The Lancet, 1962: 548-51). Post-1955 ME patients frequently have been shown to have severe muscle failure (BM Hyde, The Clinical and Scientific Basis of ME/CFS, 1992:111-6).

    Many gut viruses other than polio virus 1-3 can cause paralytic polio and ME. This is because they can attach to more than one set of tissue receptors found on different cells in the brain, spine and other body areas, as can polio. Injury to such cells results in ME symptoms, which also occur in polio and post-polio syn­dromes.

    The presence of these non-polio gut bugs also appears to alter responses in the population to the various vaccine strains of polio. During a 1955 polio epidemic in areas of Iceland that had been exposed to the 1948-49 outbreak of epidemic neuromyasthenia (the early name for ME), children had a lower antibody response to polio vaccine strain 1, but an increased response to polio vaccine strains 2 and 3 (Lancet, 1958:I:370-71). Later, it was discovered that other viruses can inhibit the pathological effects of classic polio (IRSC Jnl Int Res Coms [Med Sc], 1974;2:22-26).

    Enteroviruses easily mutate - hence the polio strain used in vaccines "wanders". There have been countless reports of vaccine failure, polio contracted by fully vaccinated populations and parents contracting polio from vaccinated infants (See the WDDTY Vaccination Handbook). In these, the weakened, suppos­edly "safe" vaccine strain of polio has transformed into a virulent en­terovirus - either one of the classic polio ones or a strange mutation of it. Over 64 epidemic outbreaks of ME have been published in the past 70 years, two­ thirds after the introduction of polio immunization 40 years ago (Am Jnl Med, 1959:569-95; AM Ramsay, Myalgic Encephalomyelitis and Post viral Fatigue Syn­dromes, Gower Med Publ, 1988; SAMJ, 1988; 74: 448-52; Postgrad Med J, 1988; 64: 559-67).

    In epidemic form, this disease strikes teaching and medical establishments (ME is more common in teachers than in health care workers). The earliest epidemic outbreaks usually occurred in the wake of a polio epidemic, the first at LA County General Hospital in 1934 (Publ Health Bulletin 240, Washington DC, 1938), referred to as "Atypical Polio". Another, which affected officers and men in Switzerland in 1939, was described as "abortive poliomyelitis" (Helvetica Med Acta, 1949; 16: 170-72), as was a 1950 NY State outbreak (Neu­rology,1954;4:506-16).

    Republished with permission of What Doctors Don't Tell You, a monthly newsletter which reviews conventional medicine and provides proof of safer alternatives. For more information and free e-news, visit: www.wddty.co.uk

  2. mindbender

    mindbender New Member

    What do we all have in common?
  3. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Thanks for posting this.

    Love, Mikie
  4. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    There is a few in England and especially Jane Colby (TymesTrust) , who since some time now say, that ME is caused by Polio like Enterovirus and has close similarities to Polio.
    Putting this information together with the one about Leaky Gut and Enteroviruses is interesting.
    But, again, like so many time in this AHA moments, I think it is just one more piece of the puzzle, though an important one.
    take care

  5. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Immunity starts in the gut. This is important to read. I hope our members have a chance to see it.

    Love, Mikie
  6. webintrig

    webintrig New Member

    This was a great article.

    Your right about what we have in common.

    This is a reader and a keeper article.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Soft hugs,
    [This Message was Edited on 10/11/2006]
  7. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    read it again tomorrow, i am sure you are figuring it out than. you are usually on top of things...... maybe hanging to much around on the porch?
  8. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    i spoke to Dr.Meirleirs office;waitinglist is short, 1 month and i got a e-mail to make appointment. i guess things have changed.
    any how, i am in the moment unable to travel and have to wait for better times.
    you still did not answer my question of "what exactly did not work out whith you and his treatment plan" or i just did not get it right?
    take it easy, karina
  9. NyroFan

    NyroFan New Member


    Very good info for all of us. I have never read anything like it in the past.

    Thank you.

  10. SherylD

    SherylD Guest

    Thanks for posting this..
  11. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    there is a book with explains all this stuff from Jane Colby. I have not read it, but have read some stuff on several english websites like ME Action, investinme.org and Tymestrust.org. The organisation is headed by Jane Colby. I had several mails with and from her and she is the only one, who is realy knowledgeable with kids and ME!

    thanks a lot.
    this is really strange about your detox problems!
    allergic to chelatine?
    i don`nt know, just fishing.
    do you know now why you could not tolerate it?

    i will again for your treatment plan and so on . take your time, not in a hurry.
    take care
  12. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    There was research which connected the Polio Virus to MS. Live Polio Virus was found in the stomachs of people with MS. I never read any more about this research.

    Love, Mikie
  13. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    never heard of this. But the more i learn abut MS (hanging a bit around on MS and Autoimmune boards) the more i see how very much in common we have. would not be surprised if MS is a subgroup of CFIDS, or something.
    I made some realy intresting discoveries, but i am still conecting the dots.
    My brain just does not want to do so much and shuts down very fast in the moment! have to give it a brake for a while......
    ciou karina

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