Any Luck with a Homeopathic, Nutritional Doctor?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by greatgran, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    Has anyone tried or had any luck with a Homepathic, Nutritional, Chiropratic Dr.?

    There is a doctor of this type that is only about 30 minutes from me. He is new in the area. I called his office and he came to the phone and spoke with me..He seemed to know all about CFS and told me what type of test he did..All different than the ones I have had..One was a slyvia adrenal test, another was the cortisol and he made up a lot of his own chemistry test he wanted plus a lot of the usual..

    I told him I just wanted to know what was going on with my body and a definite dx..He said he could do that, which is something I have never gotten..He did say that most of his treatment is with the diet and supplements etc. depending on the out come of the blood work..

    I don't think my insurance will pay for a lot of the labs and he is rather expensive not sure how the insurance will pay but if I could get some answers I would cut back in ways to pay him..I have to admit I somewhat question if it would be worth it..

    Has anyone seen this type of doctor and if so what was the outcome?

    Another thing I question is that he can see me this week..I have been waiting 4 months for an appointment with a new rheumy and can't see him until June.

    Thanks for your help,
    greatgran
  2. SusanEU

    SusanEU New Member

    Coincidentally, I called a naturopath in my neighborhood this morning. I am waiting for her to call me back, don't know how much it costs, but I will give it a whirl.

    Let me know how you make out and vice versa.

    Good Luck GG

    Sue in Ontario
  3. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Greatgran - I have been helped the most by "alternative" health care practitioners. One was a chiropractor who does muscle testing. He helped me with several digestive problems, weak adrenals, toxic liver, viruses and a few other things, when regular doctors were helpless and clueless.

    I think the saliva/adrenal test is a very good thing, it will test your cortisol levels. I had the same test and it showed high cortisol levels, which interfererd with sleep. Many on this board have low levels too, which require different treatment.

    And I do think that diet and supplements are mostly the way to go. There haven't been any meds that help me, apart from Armour thyroid.

    It is extremely unfortunate that insurance will only pay for the traditional medical model which does so little good for people with CFIDS and FM. But it was worth it to me to pay my chiropractor without the insurance. I would have been much worse off without him.

    I hope you give it a shot --

    Mary
  4. JenniferAnn539

    JenniferAnn539 New Member

    GG,

    I have CFIDS and I have been seeing a naturopathic doctor who is also a chiropractor and a homeopath.

    I've had some minor unsustained improvement, but my doctor made it clear from the beginning that the process would be slow and long. I am trying to be patient and hope I will be seeing some improvement in the coming months.

    I have been using homeopathic remedies and they are so much gentler then drugs or natural supplements. I have had problems with die off with many natural supplements, and I like the homeopathic remedies much better.

    I would highly recommend having an initial consultation with this new doctor and see how you like him and see what he has to say about how he thnks he can help you.

    Good luck.
  5. hopeful4

    hopeful4 New Member

    You know, greatgran, I'm very into alternative types of medicine and healing. I started on that path way back in the 70's.

    I became ill in 2000 and was diagnosed with CFIDS by my ND. He identified himself as a specialist in this area. He was very kind, and helped me, but only to a degree. I did not get well.

    Then I started hopping to different doctors. I went back to a homeopathy Dr. that I used to see in another city. She is an MD and a highly regarded dr. of homeopathy. She used "constitutional" homeopathy, and no other type of medication.

    This helped, again, but only to a degree. The doctor parade went on. They were all great people, highly regarded in their professions. I continued to be sick.

    Fast forward. 2003. Breast cancer dx. Treatment, including a super wonderful ND who was on the cancer care team. She set me up with a lot of support, excellent nutrition and supplements. Thank G-d it all went very well. But, she could not help me with the CFIDS/FM.

    By this time, I had already had adrenal support, thyroid meds that didn't work, mitochondria igniters, protein powders, green drinks, IV therapy, you name it.

    Next train stop for me had to be a place that would give me a comprehensive program. Diet, and supplements, and some testing are just not enough. I knew, by the breast cancer care model, that I needed a center that specialized only in CFIDS/FM. That's when I went to the Fibromyalgia and Fatigue Center.

    It may not be for everyone, but I must say that if I had not gone there I NEVER would have found out the underlying causes of my illness. Underlying hormonal imbalances, infections, rock bottom NK cells, and more...and the biggie that kicked everything off to begin with, which was Lyme Disease. They leave no stone unturned.

    Just wanted to share my story with you. I truly hope that you find the very best medical care that will help you get well and live your life.
    Hopeful4
  6. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    Thank each of you for your help.If I don't change my mind I will be meeting with the doctor today. I just fear another let down but then I don't have anything to lose except money..

    I really don't expect a cure or much help I just want a definite dx. So we shall see. When I was talking with this doctor over the phone and I told him some of my lab results he did mention lupus..Just to have a doctor speak with you over the phone and so
    familiar with cfs and fibro was impressing to me..

    I do wish I lived in a area where I could attend the Fibro and Fatigue Centers but there isn't one.

    I will post later on my visit or if I change my mind..I will have to drive myself and go alone. If I think I can make it guess I will go..

    Thank again and God Bless,
    greatgran
  7. JenniferAnn539

    JenniferAnn539 New Member

    can't wait to hear how your visit went!

    Jennifer
  8. Adl123

    Adl123 New Member

    Dear Greatgran,
    I think the fact that he came to the phone is a great plus. Also, he might not have many patients, because many people want the quick help that chemical medicines give, and either do not have the time,patience, or money to take on a slower healing process. Maybe has not been there long either. Also,many alternative doctors have chosen a simpler way of life, and would rather give a patient a long visit than have many patients they see for only a few minutes.

    The Dr. that diagnosed me 13 years ago was an M.D. who used alternative healing techniques and homeopathic medicines and supplements, along with some regular meds.. She saved my life. I would still be going to her now if she had not died while climbing in the mountains.

    I also go to a great chiropractor. Chiropractors are interested in the spine and what is afected by it . They cannot prescribe regular medicines,and usually suggest few supplements.

    I'm now going to a Chinese Medicine Sr./Acupuncturist. I searched for one who was fully trained in Chinese Medicine and who had studied abroad (in China , India or Tibet), also. I hope he can help me. So far, he is a gem. I'll wait and see.

    If you want to try an acupuncturist, just realize that, if one is ill, it should kind of "hurt" for a second when the needles are being put in. The aim is to put the needle in the meridian points, and to use the Dr's Chi (energy) , also. It feels kind of like a little shock.

    Good luck to the doctor you choose. Just be careful to do some research on them first, as, unfortunatrly, there are some bad ones out there, (just like M.D.s). I think that it is important to go with what makes you feel safe and confident. Follow your "gut" feeling.


    Good luck, and a big hug,
    Terry
    [This Message was Edited on 03/07/2006]
  9. Cromwell

    Cromwell New Member

    Some the good ones, the ones who really trained for years can be terrific. Then there are "the rest" who tend to be people who got a postsal "degree" or a 6 week training.

    So it depends. I had a wonderful one in Oregon. She was brilliant. Even had lived and trained in China for Acupuncture. She was so good. Was certified Midwife too. DO and several years of naturopathic training.

    Then I see some of the quacks about who ruin the reputation of these really good docs. Ask for all the credentials and how long it took to get them, plus then run your own check. Some of them a little liars.

    Get a good one and boy there are brilliant.

    Love Anne C
  10. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    I went for my first visit with Dr.Smith after checking him out on the net..He has been in practice for 20 years and has just opened his own about 2 years ago..

    I was very impressed, he spent 2 hours with me never had anyone take that much time..I had planned not to say much and just get a feel about his knowledge on cfs, labs etc.

    First he had to have a very detailed history, all my symptoms, stresses etc. When I left his office I felt he knew more about me than anyone could know..Then he did the B/P, weight, plus the basics..He even noticed a rash I had..

    To make this shorter, he has ordered a lot of labs, some saliva test and when he gets all the results back he will call me and set up an appointment and take it from there..

    He did CONFIRM that I have CFS and he feels certain I too have lupus..He made the comment that he couldn't believe some of my past labs had gone unnoticed..(I had to take him copies of all the labs I had done by other doctors).

    He believes in treating the body as a whole and not just bits and pieces..

    All in all I was impressed with him and he did seem to know a lot about cfs, autoimmune and immune diseases..Just to get an I KNOW dx and not an I think was worth the money and trip..

    I emailed his office this morning in ref. to my insurance and have already received a reply..

    One thing that he explained to me about cfs and why we crash..These are not his exact words but this was my understanding and he drew me a graph.
    With cfs your body just has so much energy and once that energy is used it is gone until we rest and restore. That is why it is so easy to overdo and we crash..That is why pacing is so important..He did encourage brief walking if only for a few minutes..When we push and go on "empty" then the healing process will never come..Rest is the number one healer..His example was on the good days don't clean the whole house even if I think I can , only do one room..
    Treat the good days as the bad ones with rest..Do but don't overdo..

    Hope this makes sense as I feel I am just rambling..

    I am glad I went and will keep you posted..He said he would not have all my labs back until around the 28th of this month..At least he is great to talk to better than any psych or therapist I have seen..We discussed my anxiety in detail and he gave me some homework on that..

    At this point I can't say I do or don't recommed this type of doctor but will let you know in time...

    God BLess,
    greatgran






    [This Message was Edited on 03/08/2006]
  11. JenniferAnn539

    JenniferAnn539 New Member

    GG,

    Sounds like you had a wonderful experience.

    Congrats!

    Keep us posted on your test results and any progress that you experience with him.

    By the way, his advice for pacing sounds similiar to an article that Immunesupport.com posted, I think last month on preemptive resting. You should read it, it made a lot of sense.

    Good luck with your new doctor.

  12. Jeanne-in-Canada

    Jeanne-in-Canada New Member

    Environmental doctors that practice homeo/nutrional medicine and are MD's too have helped me the most and homeopathy is great esp. for the very sensitive who don't tolerate meds well or are just sick of them and the side effects and risks.

    My current env. doc was new in town too when I first saw her, I could get in in afew days, back then. Now she has a a yr to 2 yrs waiting list. It's just because he's new and not established yet, don't dismiss him because you can get in quick. If he's good, that definitely won't last.

    Btw, his cortisol test is much better than conventional, and I'll bet his other ones are too. These docs will listen and go by your symptoms and not wait for a highly inacccurate test to tell them yah or nay over you and your word.


    Jeanne
  13. SusanEU

    SusanEU New Member

    Sounds like you had a positive experience.

    I am going to naturopath next week for 2 hour appointment. She talked to me at length on the phone and I am looking forward to meeting her. (I told her that I hadn't been away from my house for 2 hours for a long time, might be a challenge!)

    Will let you know how it goes.

    Sue in Ontario
  14. greatgran

    greatgran Member

    Thanks, to each of you for your support, info. and advice. If it had not been for you all I don't think I would have gone for my visit..Thanks Jeane in Canada and Sue please let me hear about your experience..

    God Bless,
    greatgran