Anyone Here Considering The New Shingles Vaccine?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Mikie, May 26, 2006.

  1. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    I have sworn I will never take another vaccine unless it's a matter of life or death. That said, however, if I could avoid the chance of getting painful shingles, it would be great. I'm not going to rush into anything and am going to wait to see how the vaccines work in the general population as opposed to the trials.

    Thing I keep coming back to is that with all the stress I have had and the Herpes-Family viruses which seem to reactivate when I get run down, if I were going to get shingles, I would think I would have had them by now. When I get around anyone with shingles, I have a major immune response which makes me sick. Then, I Herx. Perhaps my own immune system takes care of me when it comes to shingles.

    Also, I may be more protected because I have used AV's and TF's. The TF's do not target the Chicken Pox Virus but it does target other Herpes-Family Viruses. I also take the undenatured whey and colostrum. I gave some whey and colostrum to an elderly neighbor when she broke out with shingles and they cleared up so fast the doc could barely believe it.

    Love, Mikie
  2. Dlebbole

    Dlebbole New Member

    Hi Mikie, I have had shingles 4 times, the last time just recently. I too am taking undenatured whey and tranafer factors, but in the face of some ongoing stress it wasn't enough. They have cleared up but this time I do have some lingering pain in my upper back. I do fear more outbreaks and probably, the post-herpetic pain.

    Having said that, I will be among the last to try the vaccine. In the 80s during college, measles was making a comeback, and even though I had already been immunized, I was pressured to get the shot again. I had a lot of problems for several months after that, and who knows, it may have been a factor in the dysregulation of my immune system.

    But like you, I will be watching, Diane
  3. elliespad

    elliespad Member

    Nope. Not me. I haven't had any vaccines since around 1970 when I received a tetanus shot. Got so sick for 4 or 5 days, literally thought I might die.

    For herpes virus, the herb Turmeric, should be it in remission.

    My kids no longer take any vaccines. Son starts college this fall so it will be a major battle to get an exemption. I/we best get working on that. Anyone else had success getting vaccine exclusion in New York State?
  4. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Prickles, there are a whole host of Herpes-Family Viruses besides genital (which I do not have) and the one which causes cold sores (which I do have). The worst of them probably is HHV-6 which is common in people with our illnesses and AIDS. CMV, EBV, and the virus which causes Chicken Pox are all in the Herpes Family. I've had Chicken Pox, so I could get shingles and often wonder why I don't. My doc and I don't know which HFV's reactivate. It was a fluke that I was given Famvir for facial surgery as a preventive and I went into a temporary, complete remission. I also Herxed, which means the Famvir was killing off something.

    Dancing, Sweetie, I never even considered that you were being cynical. Your thoughts are exactly what mine are. If my own body seems to be protecting me from the shingles, perhaps I should thank my lucky stars and not try to fix what ain't broken.

    Diane, I am so sorry about the shingles and the reaction you had to the vaccine. I also have had bad reactions to the flu shots and I never take them. I'm not sure the vaccine will work if someone has already had an outbreak of shingles. In any case, I doubt I will risk this new vaccine.

    When I told my specialist about getting sick when I am around people with shingles, he told me to stay away from anyone with them, even if the shingles are drying up and going away. He said there is so little known about Herpes Viruses but that they may be more virulent than ever suspected. Now, researchers are finding a connection between EBV and cancer. Almost everyone has been exposed to EBV.

    Love, Mikie
  5. kriskwon

    kriskwon New Member

    I would try the vaccine in a heartbeat. As you probably know, shingles are the most painful thing a person may have to deal with. I told my sister that it was like being stung by 100 red ants (or some people call them fire ants) at the same time - but it never stops.

    However, my doctor did tell my husband that they can not give it to you unless you are over the age of 60. I asked him (my husband) what was the reason and he said he didn't ask!!!!!! Men. Anyhow, I will ask next time I'm there.

    From your posts, I assume your much younger that 60.

    Like FM, I will try anything to try to get a grips on this unbearable illness. Having FM is bad enough, but adding shingles is unfair :<)
  6. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Bless your heart, I'm almost 62. The news mentioned why it's for people older than 60 but I can't remember exactly why. I do know that it usually strikes older people although, I don't consider 60 as being older. Except for these illnesses, I don't feel 60. My voice on the phone sounds very young. My Mom died at 92, so I guess in our family, you're not "older" until you're 80 :)

    I know how horribly painful the shingles can be. My neighbor whom I mentioned got a strong AV as soon as her shingles broke out and she took the colostrum and whey I gave her. Her shingles almost immediately started to dry up and she says she never had pain. My other neighbor still has pain from an outbreak last year. She is on Neurontin for it.

    I hope anyone here who gets vaccinated will post about the experience. I know that right now, the vaccine costs $150. I wonder whether ins. co's are going to want to pay for it.

    Love, Mikie
  7. kriskwon

    kriskwon New Member

    Next time I have shingles (which shouldn't be too long :<), I'm gonna try the colostrum & whey. I'd like to hear from anyone too who gets this vaccine. I would think that insurance covers it, but who knows these days!
  8. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Probiotics, colostrum, and whey can be taken before you have shingles to help your immune system. I take them all the time. Perhaps they would help you to avoid getting the shingles. I do think the transfer factors, which also contain colostrum, have helped my immune system the most, but everything helps some.

    Love, Mikie
  9. kriskwon

    kriskwon New Member

    I didn't realize I can start for prevention...