Are Weiner's Women Blameless?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by TwoCatDoctors, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. TwoCatDoctors

    TwoCatDoctors New Member
    By LZ Granderson, Special to CNN
    June 14, 2011 8:58 a.m. EDT


    (CNN) -- I get it: A lot of people think Anthony Weiner's a pig.

    While I usually take the position of a politician's personal life being his or her own business, even I had to throw that stance out the window once the picture of what is purportedly Weiner's penis in his gray underwear hit the Web. Resigning is (was) the only sensible choice. End of his story.

    Now time for hers.

    If Weiner is a bad guy for his indiscretions, what about the women who see this saga as their time to shine?

    Not the women the media found, but the ones who ran to the cameras. The women who knew Weiner was a married congressman, but chose to initiate or at least continue illicit communication with him anyway, and, now that "Entertainment Tonight" is involved, want to talk.

    If Weiner's a bad guy, if Arnold Schwarzenegger's a bad guy, if John Edwards and Newt Gingrich are bad guys, then why aren't we calling out these willing accomplices as "bad girls" with the same fervor? Why do they seem to be catching a break in the realm of public opinion?

    Yes, the men in these scandals all made stupid mistakes and deserve what they got. But their girlfriends -- cyber or real -- are not all innocent victims. Particularly the ones now coming out of hiding, seeking cameras in the wake of their playmate's public demise. Those are the ones I really wish would shut up. The way I see it, their time to sit down in front of a camera was when the unfaithful culprit sent them the first photo.

    That's what the woman who was involved in exposing the double life of former U.S. Rep. Chris Lee, R-New York, did. She quickly figured out the man who responded to her Craigslist posting under "Women Seeking Men" was not a 39-year-old divorced lobbyist but rather a 46-year-old married congressman.

    From there, she didn't need Andrew Breitbart's to prompt her to come clean. She outed Lee herself. Immediately.

    What bothers me is that in the midst of all this men-behaving-badly chatter is the lack of criticism directed at the women who knew exactly who Weiner was and did not stop the interaction. As someone who has covered sports and politics for years, I have seen how women have to delicately manage situations involving unwanted advances and inappropriate comments in the workplace. I know that sexual harassment and misogyny are still a problem.

    But the Weiner scandal -- and I feel somewhat silly calling it a scandal -- does not appear to be an example of that. This appears to be some horny adults getting freaky over the Internet, illustrated by this e-mail exchange shared by Lisa Weiss, one of the six women Weiner was involved with:

    Weiner: ridiculous bulge in my shorts now. wanna see?

    Weiss: "Yea! can u send a pic? I want to sit on your ..."

    OK -- I think we get the picture.

    Doesn't seem as if Weiss is being forced into anything. Especially when you consider on June 3 Weiss tweeted "@maddow have a juicy political story I wnt to give y!how do I contact ur show?"

    It's pretty clear she didn't want to just clear her conscience. She wanted a national audience. She wanted a little fame.

    Meagan Broussard, another woman who corresponded with Weiner, has been making the media rounds this week talking about the dozens of photos and e-mails between herself and Weiner. ABC News reportedly paid her between $10,000 and $15,000 to license examples of her correspondence with Weiner.

    She said she found Weiner on Facebook after hearing him deliver a speech, so she knew he was a congressman. She said Weiner accepted her "friend" request, meaning she pushed the "add as friend" button, which is millimeters above the statement "married to Huma Abedin" on his Facebook page.

    None of that stopped her from flirting or sending pictures of herself to Weiner. And then she had the audacity to end her post on Breitbart's with "I just hope to be left in peace." Reeeeaalllly?

    I have yet to see an interview with the mother of Schwarzenegger's love child, and we don't even know the name of the woman who exposed Lee.

    It is possible to be the "other woman" and not sit across from Sean Hannity. Or do an interview with US Weekly, the way Jaimee Grubbs, one of Tiger Woods' mistresses, did. Or go on Oprah the way John Edwards' mistress, Rielle Hunter, did.

    It seems that if you didn't want people to know you were involved with a married man before TMZ came knocking at the door, revealing explicit pictures and e-mails and text messages after the fact makes you just as questionable as the Weiners and Woodses and Edwardses.

    If cheating men don't deserve a break, why are we giving their camera-chasing mistresses one?


  2. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    That goes for both men and women who engage in this kind of behavior. I do believe sex and risk taking are addictive and stimulate the pleasure center in the brain but we are not helpless lambs to the slaughter. The reason we try to develop character is to resist such temptation. We are not babies who demand to get everything we see. Weiner is an exhibitionist and probably has a lot of other problems. Hopefully, therapy will help him. I feel for his wife and child.

    My ex is married to the woman who broke up our marriage and both are in a living hell. Did she really believe the problem in my marriage was all me and that he would change for her? Women, and men, who engage in this idiocy deserve what they get.

    Jam, we just talked about being content. Perhaps being rid of my ex is one of the reasons I'm so content :)

    Love, Mikie
  3. TwoCatDoctors

    TwoCatDoctors New Member

    Jam, sorry you'll be gone for awhile--play some cards and we'll enjoy a good talk with you when you return.

    As to the indescretion (spelling?) of sexting, etc. with these adults, to me it really shows a deficit in both parties no matter whether it is an addiction, poor judgment or whatever. Cheating is cheating and I think sexting is another way of cheating.

    As to pain and suffering, I would rather have someone tell me they are having pain so I understand if they are a bit gruff or can't move well that day. I don't mind being told about the aches and pains. Take care and hugts.