Argyria with colliodol Silver

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  1. clerty

    clerty New Member


    I have been using this for a few days and I have been feeling a lot better but I am worried about using it as I have read an article on Argyria!!

  2. msbsgblue

    msbsgblue Member

    An Open Letter to the World about Colloidal Silver by Will Fitzpatrick

    First, let me lay to rest the myth that colloidal silver causes people to turn blue or gray. This widely circulated fable about the condition, Argyria, is simply a weapon formed against colloidal silver by those who are set out to stop its use among the people. The only two cases of Argyria that anyone can connect a name with, that I know of, are those of Rosemary Jacobs and Stan Jones.

    "The New England Journal of Medicine" carried this case in its Volume 340:1554 May 20, 1999 Number 20 issue. Here is the article in its entirety.

    "A 56-year-old woman has had discolored skin since the age of 14 (Panel A, right, and Panel B). At the age of 11 the patient was given nose drops of unknown composition for "allergies," and three years later her skin turned gray. The pigmentation extends to her waist. She was thought to have argyria, and a skin biopsy at the age of 15 confirmed the presence of silver deposition. The facial pigmentation was diffuse until the age of 36, but it became patchy after dermabrasion. The patient has had no other related problems. She recalled that when she was in the recovery room after a lumpectomy for breast cancer at the age of 42, the nurses were alarmed because they thought she had cyanosis.
    The Pictures formerly in these panels were said to be the property of NEJM and the author of this site was compelled to take them down.

    Panel B

    Colloidal silver products sold in the early 1900s had silver concentrations as high as 30 percent. Suspensions of silver, available now in some health food stores and pharmacies, are touted for the treatment of many disorders, including the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, cancer, sore throats, meningitis, parasites, chronic fatigue, and acne, without substantiation."

    Several features of this article are of note. It says, "nose drops of unknown composition were given....." It does not say, "colloidal silver was given" or even that it was silver for that matter, though we know from further investigation that it was. So, we know she got argyria from some sort of silver based nose drops. The next sentence is telling; It says, "Colloidal silver products sold in the early 1900s had silver concentrations as high as 30 percent." They have jumped from "nose drops of unknown composition" to "colloidal silver." The uninitiated reader would logically conclude that Rosemary took colloidal silver. Though it is the conclusion likely drawn by reader, it is by no means the correct one. Rosemary Jacobs took silver nitrate. We know this because that was the preparation being given by doctors in prescription nose drops in the 1950's. The knowledgeable researchers at NEJM know this, but this is not the perception they wished to convey and conveying a perception is the intent here, not the objective reporting of an important clinical observation.

    The nature of the colloidal silver mentioned here by NEJM is telling as well. It says that the colloidal silver from the early 1900s had concentrations as high as 30 percent. This is 300,000 parts per million. Obviously, this concentration of silver could not have been "dropped" in someone's nose as it would have had to be in a jell to stay in suspension for even a few seconds. Modern day colloidal silver is never found in concentrations of even 1 percent (10,000 ppm), much less 30 percent. The highest concentration I have seen on the market today is 1100 ppm. I think even this concentration is excessive, as many people are reporting good results with 3-5 ppm colloidal silver. That is 3/10,000ths to 5/10,000ths of 1 percent, a far cry from the pioneering products of a century ago. To compare silver nitrate or colloidal silver, thousands of times stronger than colloidal silver actually in use today is like comparing Vaseline and gasoline (both from petroleum) and issuing a warning on the use of Vaseline because it might explode.

    The other modern case of Argyria on the record is that of Stan Jones, a recent state senatorial candidate of Montana who ran on the Libertarian ticket. His case was bantered about far and wide for months by the press. Unlike Rosemary's, his case actually was caused by colloidal silver. His was a homemade concoction of his own making. Though colloidal silver can be made at home safely, Stan's brew was of very dubious quality. Homemade colloidal silver should only be made slowly in distilled water using an electrolysis process. Stan Jones made his in tap water and let it "brew" for an hour. Though I cannot guess precisely the amount of silver in the product he made, it had to be hundreds of times any recommended concentration. Additionally, this "silver mud" had to have very large particles in the mix. Even with this strong, poorly made product, it took 4 years, ingesting 8 ounces daily before anyone noticed a difference in his skin color. A reasonable, daily amount which gives many users good preventive against disease is about 1 ounce of 10 ppm colloidal silver. My closest calculation is that Stan took 800 times the recommended amount! It is no wonder he turned blue. Interestingly, he stayed very healthy despite his gross abuse of colloidal silver. Two things were proven by Stan's experience with colloidal silver. 1) Argyria is so rare it makes national news when it occurs, and 2)You can get Argyria if you make it 100 times too strong and take 8 times the recommended dose for 4 years. If one takes 800 aspirins in a day, he will die. If one tries to take 800 times the 64 ounces of water recommended daily, he will die. If one tries to take 800 times the normal daily amount of air, he will hyperventilate and pass out.....and on and on. Of these and almost any other "overdose" one can imagine, the result is death. Gross abuse of colloidal silver over many years may discolor your skin.

    The reason we hear so much about the "danger" of Argyria is not because it is likely to occur by use of colloidal silver but because it is the only charge its detractors can come up with. Colloidal Silver is the worst nightmare possible to its detractors. Who are the detractors of colloidal silver? Let's look at the cast of characters. In 1938, the medical and pharmaceutical industries finally got the congress to pass the law they had so long lobbied for. I am not going to debate the usefulness of this legislation which mandated formation of the Food and Drug Administration and took over regulation of what is today over 1/3 of the US economy (including food). There are pros and cons and this debate has been addressed thoroughly for many years in other forums. What has evolved from its formation is a consortium of strange bedfellows. If an FDA employee can please those he regulates in the drug industry while he is in his position at the Agency, he will have a good job waiting when he retires. It is very similar to the explanation of why Pentagon procurement officers end up as high ranking officers in the defense industry. Follow the money trail. It is not difficult. It is quite transparent as a matter of fact. The FDA/Pharma ties have been well established in congressional hearings in recent years, so I won't go over that territory again here. This relationship then, defines one class of the detractors of colloidal silver (and other alternatives to allopathic medicine), the FDA bureaucrats. They have been slowed but not stopped by recent legislation such as DSHEA, The 1994 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act. These career bureaucrats, motivated by the big money to be reaped at their future employers have so abused their power in violation of the letter and intent of the DSHEA that they were boldly admonished by Senator Dan Burton in a senate hearing recently.

    Another group of detractors of colloidal silver and other alternative medicine products and treatments is the self appointed, vigilante quack watchers. They have taken it on themselves (so they would have you believe) to watch out for the interests of the "American Consumer" to protect them from dubious "cures" and products which would steal their money and keep them from seeking "legitimate" medical treatment. It seems like a noble cause until you delve into their background, methods and cohorts. The most notorious of these "witch-hunters" is Stephen Barrett, MD. Ah, you say, he is a doctor! Well, he was a doctor until he gave up his license some years ago. Actually, he was a psychiatrist, a doctor of the mind, hardly a valid qualification for the crusade he has taken up. His wife is a real MD according to information on his website so don't be concerned that he has no other visible means of support. Also, he authored and co-authored several books of anti-alternative medicine. He became the darling of the medical industry in the 1980's with several awards for his books and articles attacking products and alternative modalities which have now been vindicated and even embraced by most of mainstream medicine. Chiropractic, Acupuncture, and the use of vitamins and minerals are among them. With most of his enemies vindicated, he crusades on to find more effective alternative treatments to demonize and destroy. Colloidal silver has become one of his favorite whipping boys in recent years with his willing accomplices, Rosemary Jacobs, FDA, FTC and the press.

    The American and international press could be the most potent and powerful members of this conspiracy against colloidal silver and other medical alternatives. The reason for their participation is easy to figure. A large and growing portion of the advertising revenue on TV, radio, magazines and newspapers is from prescription drug commercials. A healthy population is not a good thing for the drug business. As more people find and use colloidal silver and other alternative treatments, the need for expensive, prescription drugs will diminish. This is the reason all the news services eagerly pick up stories against alternative medicine. For the last year as an example, the story of Rosemary Jacobs has appeared on CNN, ABC, NBC, CNBC, CBS, Ripley's "Believe it or Not", and literally hundreds of newspapers and magazines. As carefully detailed above, the "facts" and conclusions, as published in the "story" are false on their face, but this has not stopped the colloidal silver detractors in the press from continuing the brainwashing of the public. (Can you say, propaganda?) What could be behind this systematic demonization of colloidal silver?

    Could all these people and entities be truly worried that America will become a nation of blue-gray people? If this were the motivation, all they would need to do is start a picture campaign of all the discolored people. The populous would quickly realize that the risk of Argyria is very real. Why don't they just do this? The reason is that the parade would consist of only two people, hardly a convincing caravan, considering the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of users of colloidal silver in the US today. Personally, I have taken it daily since 1998 in a dosage which has kept me free of any infection (about a tsp/day of 20 ppm) and am as pink today as the day I started. The reason for the great concern by colloidal silver's detractors is not concern for the people, quite the contrary. The concern is for their own financial well-being. Without infection, allopathic medicine would be a mere shadow of its current self. It is infection (the action of germs in the body) which keeps the wheels of the medical industry profitably humming along.

    One common complaint of the conspirators against colloidal silver is that its protractors claim cures and/or treatments for hundreds of diseases, as many as 650 in some cases. While I do not know if 650 identifiable diseases even exist, much less are treatable with colloidal silver, there is a simple explanation for the claims. Colloidal silver kills single cell anaerobic bacteria as well as viruses and fungus. These are the cause of virtually all infections. There have not been enough modern clinical studies to pin down conclusive proof of effectiveness against hundreds of diseases but thousands of anecdotal reports and reams of historical documents detail its value as a germ killer. Many of these reports can be found on the Internet.

    The history is clear, from ancient times to the present, man has known of the powerful health benefits of silver. Man has used silver to kill germs throughout recorded history. Here is an ancient anecdote from the writings of Herodotus, the Greek philosopher, dating this use of silver to before the birth of Christ.

    The Greek historian Herodotus, called the "Father of History", is one of our prime sources for information known about the fall of Babylon. Herodotus lived a century after the time of Daniel and traveled widely in the East. In his "Histories", we learn of the campaign of Persia's King Cyrus against Babylon. The details include the fact that no Persian king, including Cyrus, would drink the water of any stream other than the Choaspes, a river that flows past the Persian capital of Susa. Wherever the king went, a long train of four-wheeled mule wagons followed him transporting silver jars filled with boiled water from the river’s waters. The water would keep fresh for years during the long campaigns.

    The Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians and many peoples from the "Dark Ages" used silver in one form or another to preserve food and water. In the "Middle Ages," during the plagues, silverware protected the wealthy from the full brunt of its ravages. In the old west, pioneers used silver coins to preserve milk and water. In the last century, man was beginning to develop more sophisticated forms of silver to kill germs.

    The FDA Took Over

    In 1938, the FDA was formed, Penicillin was introduced and the modern pharmaceutical industry began to dominate anti-microbial science. Since silver preparations were more expensive, they receded from favor.

    Silver Use in Modern Times

    The use of some silver preparations in mainstream medicine has survived until this "Modern Age." Among them are the use of dilute silver nitrate in newborn babies' eyes to protect from infection and the use of "Silvadine," a silver based salve, in virtually every burn ward in America, to kill infection. A new silver based bandage which is merely silver coated Nylon, has recently been approved by the FDA and licensed for sale. It is called, "Silvalon."

    Bacteria Becoming Resistant

    Now, as many bacteria become resistant to pharmaceutical antibiotics, silver is emerging once more as a germ killer inside the human body. During the last several decades, the technology of silver as a germ fighter has continued to evolve. Instead of just using the surface of coins or silver vessels to come in contact with germs to kill them, silver is now being used in the “colloidal” state. This state enables a vast surface area of metal to be exposed in the solution, relative to the absolute amount of silver present. Today, a few manufacturers have developed the technology to produce metallic particles around a nanometer in diameter. At this size, over a billion such particles could sit side by side on the cross section of a human hair. Because of their infinitesimal dimensions, they can wander around in the deepest recesses of the body, killing germs wherever they are found. Since they kill by suffocation, no single celled organisms can survive to mutate and develop resistant strains. This could become the worst of nightmares for the multibillion dollar antibiotic industry.

    Why don't the big drug companies just use silver?

    Ah, here is the rub. Silver particles suspended in water are not patentable. Someday, when the truth about colloidal silver becomes widely known and believed, virtually everyone will be taking a daily dose as a preventive, world wide. Six billion healthy silver takers will make colloidal silver so common that it will probably rank very little more costly than hydrogen peroxide, which is 87 cents a pint at Wal-Mart. Do the math yourself. Add to that "depressing" consideration the vastly smaller base of sick citizens and the pieces of the conspiracy begin to fall logically into place.

    My own case

    As I write this, I am a few weeks from my 60th birthday. For the last 5 years, during which I have taken a preventive daily dose of colloidal silver, I have spent the grand total of $0.00 on medication for infectious disease, i.e. antibiotics, nasal sprays, cold medicine, and the like, and zero(0) doctor visits. Before colloidal silver, I spent, on average, several thousand dollars on medical bills annually. Follow the money; do the math