I didnt want to hijack a thread. But you asked...i had 14 birds. At once. From the blue and gold macaw down to a little finch that was hand tame and would come when you called and give you kisses. My grey...cockatiel...lovebirds...a conure...canaries...parakeets...i loved my birds. When the kids left for school was time for bird play. I never had a shirt w buttons either lol. I actually just sewed the blouse shut when the buttons were gone. My grey loved to preen my hair...running his beak thru it. He also loved to bite my then DHs feet. He hated that man. Competition for my affections. I spent an hour every morn chopping fruits and veggies. Then the clean up started. Omg it was so much work. I just couldnt let them exist on seed only. Tried to give them what nature would have. They got seed in the eve and even that was a special blend i drove 2hrs one way to get. I was bird batty. You can imagine what it did to me when i had to let them go. Like letting go of children. Now tell me about your babies!