Discussion in 'Spirituality/Worship' started by glow, Aug 1, 2002.

  1. glow

    glow New Member

    I realize that just because you are Irish doesn't mean you know about ALL things Irish, but I was just wondering if you know anything about the pagan faerie religion that is supposed to be growing so in Ireland?
  2. Behan

    Behan New Member


    Ireland can be many things to many people. I am aware of oldsters who still see fairies in their gardens but as to a religion of sorts, no. We are pretty solidly Christians here in the south. Like everywhere I suppose there is a leaning to "new age" stuff and such and if you look at it, it's really "old age" stuff now isn't it.

    The town I go to most often has some very old churches in it, one for sure is over 800 years old (mind you it's Protesant at least since Protesants began)and the others even older. So the pagans have been gone a while, leaving naught but some stones and circles behind.

    Many fields still have pagan stone circles in them, the farmers just plant around them. They are not places of worship any longer but have a kind of energy aboutthem that makes you not want to mess with them, I'm told.

    Hope that's of some help, but your right there, I am no expert on this subject. I will see what i can be finding for you though.


    [This Message was Edited on 08/05/2002]
  3. Behan

    Behan New Member

    I wandered into a "pagan portal" and surprisingly found familiar stories from my childhood. My da and his both told stories of Tir Na nOg to us as children. I don't know if there are any modern pagan followers of the faeries here but thought you might enjoy a bit of their history.

    from the pagan portal (I don't know if you are familiar with Irish music but there is a great band here (or was) called DeDanann)

    The great Tuatha de Danann of Ireland flead to Tir Nan Og after their defeat by the Milesians, however those who remained in Ireland became the Daoine Sidhe. Side (Shee) is gaelic for 'people of the hills' Orriginally it referred to the mounds in which faeries lived, though it has now come to reffer to the inhabitants as well. With the introduction of christianity to Ireland, the Daoine Sidhe diminished in importance, and also shrank in size, from the gigantic Tuatha de Danann to that of more traditionally sized faeries. Their king is Finvarra, who like all of his clan is a skilled warrior. He is also fond of chess playing and womanizing. Despite the fact that his wife, Donagh, is one of the most beautiful women above or below the ground, he is known to abduct brides-to-be. Like the Seelie Court, the Daoine Sidhe, enjoy riding and are famous for their faerie steeds, which can carry a rider faster than the wind over land or water.

    Another group of faeries in Ireland inhabit the Lough Lean. their ruler is O'Donoghue who rides forth from the lake every May Day on a war steed to ride into the surrounding mist.

    Whales has perhaps more clans of faeries than any other area. In Glastonburry Tor, famous from Arturian legends, Gwyn ap Nudd rules over the Plant Annwn (roughly- family of hades). Whoever eats of their food is doomed to remain forever. The welsh Gwyllion, mountain faeries, have a disturbing habbit of sitting on rocks on either side of a path and staring silently at passers by. The Tylwyth Teg (Terlooeth teig) can only be seen by mortals who first rub their eyes with a special faerie oinment, so strong is their glaymor.

    However the most famous Welsh faeries are the Gwrgedd Annwn (Gwrageh anoon), the water faeries who are though to live in a submerged town beneath a lake. They are occasionally known to take human husbands, but if the mortal should strike his wife, then she wil leave him, never to return. Long ago, on every New Year's Day, a door would appear in the side of a great rock next to a certain lake. Those who entered found that it lead to a passage that ended on the island in the middle of the lake. This island was a beatiful garden kept by the Gwrgedd Annwn, who would serve wonderful food to the travelers and treat them as honored guests. They warned the fortunate mortals that the doorway was a secret and that nothing could be taken from the garden. One mortal took a single flower from the garden and as soon as he touched the soil of earth, all of the other other travelers were expelled and the doorway was closed, never to reopen again.

    The Cornish small people are reduced in size every time they use their shape-changing abilities. They grow smaller and smaller, finally ending their days as ants. For obvious reasons, it is considered in Cornwall unlucky to kill ants.

    In the Orkneys, the sea faeries are known as Selkies, who appear seal-like. The females will often shed their seal skins and walk upon the shore as beautiful damsels. If a man should take the seal-skin, he can force the Selkie to become his wife. If she should ever find her skin however, she will leave with it never to return.

    So there is lots of anciant history here in the myths and legends.


  4. Mia_Ayla

    Mia_Ayla New Member

    Hi Brian!

    I found your outline of Irish myth et all really intersting. I'm part Irish and have meant to look more into history and myth there out of interest. I hope to bebable to visit one day! I've been told by my sister's Irish friend that if we coud prove our background that we could actually be given land there - only if you wanted to settle and develop it. I talked to my husband about it, but I don't think he's as enthusiastic as me. Thanks for sharing. I look forward to rading more!