Benefits of Grape Seed Extract?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia and ME & Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' started by anchor, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. anchor

    anchor New Member

    Hi,

    Could someone please remind me the benefits of taking GSE?

    I took it several years back and want to start up again.

    Dosage? Would love to hear others' experiences too.

    Thank you,

    Lisa.
  2. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    for me this Sept on Grape Seed, Actualy 1 yr on Pycnogenol and then 16.5 yrs on grape seed ex..

    The FIRST THING for me to go was allergy/sinus/headaches...gone never to return...

    I just feel better overall re: immune system.

    I'll bump up article by PH from their library...

    I take 200-400mg per day....

    If you are really slight in weight, 100-200mg per day
    would be OK. jam
  3. anchor

    anchor New Member


    Thanks for the info, I read through the article- very interesting and I'm certain this will help me once again.

    I chimed in on your post....did you have any cholsterol benefit?

    Lisa.
  4. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    and have been taking Grape Seed Ex long before I got annual labs, but even now with labs, all is good...so could have been helping me all these yrs. jam

    PS: There is info out there on the cholesterol myth, so who knows, perhaps our cholesterol levels are good anyway...one book I have The Heart Revolution, the author talks about homocysteine being the culprit for heart disease..... My doc checks my homo levels some yrs.

    So many theories out there.
  5. freida

    freida Active Member

    Lisa,
    I personally find gse makes the most noticeable difference for any of the viral-TYPE/seeming or flare symptoms I get,
    moreso than I notice from vit C, etc.

    I feel it generally is good for helping my body ,
    even though it did not help my chol level that I can see,
    then, neither did many things which lower others chol levels,
    such as my past years as a vegetarian,
    or my other supplements and raw foods and bran,
    that I tried for my chol level.

    So perhaps it helps someone's chol level, but not mine. Maybe I have my level from genetics or some other reason than many people.

    Don't know if it will help others with exactly what, but I do beleive it might help ward off many illnesses, as well as lower some of our common symptoms, and maybe yeast build-up (and those symptoms) as well.

    Hope these ideas help you.

    I am low weight, and take 100 or 200mg daily,
    and then when fighting any flare or worse symptoms,
    I double up, to 200mg twice a day.
    Have not had any negative results from it at all.

    Leah[This Message was Edited on 04/02/2013]
  6. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    Thinking about this Cholesterol "word" I can't ever recall hearing this word during my parents life and they ate all the fats and meats, everything.....there were no labs back then, of course...they lived long lives.

    The cholesterol scare is huge business for stain industry...huge. Just thinkin and sayin.....jam


    Also, my main reason for starting on Pycnogenol was that it "MAY" prevent cancer, same goes with grape seed ex...so far so good....no guarantees to anything but I'm having faith in this antioxidant.[This Message was Edited on 04/02/2013]
  7. LadyCarol

    LadyCarol Member

    At this time there is not conclusive evidence that Pycnogenol can effectively prevent cancer. (see link below for details)
    http://www.cancerquest.org/cancer-prevention-pycnogenol.html

    Lots of Benefits (including cholesterol) and few side Effects of Pycnogenol :
    http://www.zhion.com/herb/Pycnogenol_Benefits_Side_Effects.html
  8. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    research hospitals are using grape seed ex in their labs...I found some sites while doing a search for:

    grape seed extract and cancer

    could do same search for:

    pycnogenol and cancer


    What is conclusive out there....
  9. freida

    freida Active Member

    IMO, too, there are many healthy things,
    that could/might contribute a little or a lot to our lives,
    that are worth doing, if we can,
    and therefore make me feel good about doing or eating them,

    even though there isn't proof ( or proof, yet)
    of exactly what the results,
    nor is there any guarantee's of what we will or will not get in the future.

    Still I like to gather info and make my own educated guesses,
    and I then feel good about doing SOME attempts,
    and taking healthy actions,
    regardless, really of the outcome,
    which no one can prove, IMO, in any particular person's case,
    and are unknown.

    I like to live that way. Take, and do what I think might help me. Not take or do what I think will not, or might harm me.

    I don't pretend I can control the outcomes. I think the drug companies like to scare us into believing they can predict outcomes, and that we need their products to survive, and will live longer if we take them.
    Maybe not.

    I think gse and other things are worthwile, I hope they help me in some ways,
    even if not in all of the ways I wish or hope.
    Been taking it for about or over 15 years.
    I believe it is good for me,
    and helps me,
    and might help me in significant unseen ways,
    even though I am still very ill and have gotten worse in some ways.
    Maybe I'd be even worse without it.
    Maybe I will or willnot get some other illness, but at least I like trying, and it seems like a good one to try.
    So like Jam, I am glad to take it, even though I don't know what is or will be proven or not.

    And it has not prevented all my ills.
    (BUT maybe did prevent countless others.)

    I still got cataracts at younger than expected age,
    but maybe some other reason I got them, despite the gse, which might prevent someone else from getting them.

    I also agree that the theories on cholesterol are way overdone and full of the fear tactic for making some people LOTS of big money,
    and making extreme claims that they will prevent problems, which they don't always prevent,
    and many who take those meds still get heart problems, (even though their numbers are lowered by them)

    And many who have high numbers do not get the dreaded illnesses.

    I dislike those ads that make one think we'll live forever and happy, if we take those meds,
    and will die sooner if we don't take them.
    Those are potent dangerous drugs, with side effects, and one should decide carefully about whether or not to risk that.

    There ARE other theories, about chol....
    the drug companies' self-profitting theories are not the only ones out there.
    I choose to take vitamins and eat foods that I hope help my heart,
    regardless of my number,
    and I do not do things that up my risks, or hurt my body.

    I feel better about living that way.

    Individuals have to end up making these decisions for themselves.
    But many rely on the drs (and drug companies)
    to make the decisions for them.
    I understand it is so hard to guess, ourselves,
    but I myself prefer to.

    I hope everyone does well, with whatever they choose, and that they feel good, or okay, about their own decisions.

    Leah

    P.S. I tried pycnogenol, many years ago, it upset my stomach and digestion terribly, so I was glad to go with gse and flaxseed oil, etc, instead.

    PLEASE NOTE:
    I apologize if I sounded too forceful with my opinion, I really did not mean to, I respect all points of view on these topics,
    I just had a hard time with wordings, tonight, and got too wordy, trying to explain myself. Sorry.





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  10. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    I surely don't do much sugar coating with my comments...I say what I believe and feel about stuff that works for me and my life....and hope it will help others...

    Do you deal with both FM/CFS and anything else?

    I'm doing so much better with Anatabloc, wish it were more affordable for others to give it a go...
  11. LadyCarol

    LadyCarol Member

    I'm all for people speaking freely, it helps get info out into the open.
    Feel free to speak openly Leah, I know jam does and so do I, no worries at all, in fact it's very refreshing. It helps each of us make decisions about what may work for us and why something isn't working for us. We're all different in our individual health needs.

    Regarding research in hospitals using grape seed ex in their labs. Yes they are, unfortunately although some tests show positive outcomes in vitro sadly many fail to translate into the human model. They are trying many different angles to see if they can find a way of making the transition into the human model but we are so very very complex and it's quite difficult science to isolate the necessary variable(s) when they are billions of variables to consider.

    I know I am desperate for a cure for Leukaemia, I've tried GSE and pine bark extract but neither made any difference to attacking the Leukaemia nor improving my general health. They did cause thin blood as a result of reducing platelets too much so I was forced to stop using them, as unfortunately many other people have found in their desperate bid to beat cancer, Leukaemia etc.
  12. freida

    freida Active Member

    Thank you, Jam,
    and LadyCarol,
    for both of your inputs, and assurances.

    Maybe more of what I wrote about,
    would be better food for thought for Lisa,
    than either of you.


    Carol,
    I completely did not realize that you are looking for a cure for leukemia.
    I am very sorry. That is so difficult and daunting.

    And what I was saying may be valid,
    for some purposes,
    but has no relevance to that search of yours.

    That I find gse worthwile, though I have limited and unknown results from it,
    has no bearing on your questions and search for something more definitive that will work for your specific needs.

    It seems to me that it was worth a try, that you did.

    Hope you find something better for what you need, Carol!

    Jam,
    I can't remember the name or brand or source,
    for the eyedrops you had suggested might help with cataracts. I had been probable planning to try it, since I will put off the surgery as long as possible.

    my best wishes to you both, and to all of you,
    Leah



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  13. LadyCarol

    LadyCarol Member

    Thank you.
  14. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    www.claritycarnosineeyedrops.com/

    I also besides grape seed ex take Lutein & Bilberry daily and Eyebright too...

    I don't want any surgery including cataract.

    Another new antioxidant being touted for eye support is
    Asthaxathin (sp) but I'll correct it when I find it....

    Here it is, I don't take it but down the road who knows...I
    just don't want any surgery...

    The Benefits of Astaxanthin,
    Nature's Strongest Antioxidant


    [This Message was Edited on 04/04/2013]
  15. freida

    freida Active Member

    Thanks for your reply, LadyCarol!
    I'm glad to see it.

    And, Jam, thanks for all of that info.
    I wrote it all down.

    Leah
  16. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    Ah, here is my favorite topic...all is not lost...just bumping up for new people...jam
  17. deepak

    deepak Member

    So I had ordered a 400 mg GSE bottle , thanks to Jam speaking so highly of it. I had not started taking it and it was just sitting unopened.

    The other day I felt a cold coming on or some kind of allergy and I decided to try the GSE. In a couple of hours after taking it the cold/allergy vanished. I was quite amazed.

    But I was reading an article on overdoing antioxidants that has me a little worried. Does anyone have any comments on this ? Am pasting the link below.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/o...ted=2&_r=1&ref=general&src=me&pagewanted=all&

    Love to all.
    deepak
  18. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    Well, Deepak, I don't know if we can take too many antioxidants, BUT I often wonder had my grandkids' dad taken antioxidants would he be dealing with the horrible cancer he is going thru.

    I don't get sick and I can thank the antioxidants I take for that one.

    We'd have to eat a LOT of fruits and veggies to get enough antioxidants, and all clean and pesticide free I believe.
  19. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    On this subject, I was talking to my gf who started on Pycnogenol a month before me, and at that lecture, we were told it "may" prevent cancer...she has since converted to grape seed extract too...

    Anyway, one of her co worker's mother is going thru massive cancer struggle, with a breast removed first and now the cancer has spread to other parts of her body, she is in her 50's.....I was thinking I bet that woman took no powerful antioxidants, maybe 1-2% of the population does...

    Big pharma certainly does NOT push it.

    This is all my opinions and no guarantees to anything....
  20. LadyCarol

    LadyCarol Member

    I take both Grape Seed Extract and Pine Bark Extract. I have definite proof that Pine Bark Extract helps reduce LDL cholesterol and increase HDL cholesterol. Taking too much of these two reduced my platelets too much and caused nose bleeding (as blood tests confirmed), so yes it is possible to take too many anti-oxidants.

    I have Leukemia so why am I take them ? To ensure I get a decent dose of anti-oxidants into my body as some days I am restricted by what I am able to eat.

    Do they do stop cancer, leukemia ? Don't know is the answer. If they do contribute to stopping DNA damage (which causes some cancers) then yes they would help stop some cancers forming.