biofeedback to retrain brain to attain delta sleep?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Aeryn, Jul 31, 2003.

  1. Aeryn

    Aeryn New Member

    I just had an interesting lunch with a colleague who works in psychology. He was discussing the different positions on the nature of the brain and how it works. It is too much to get into here, but the upshot is that according to one way of looking at it, the neural functions can be retrained including changing one's seratonin levels, etc...

    He suggested biofeedback might be useful in training the brain to be able to attain sufficient delta sleep.

    Has anyone tried this?

    I plan on asking my sleep specialist about it (the appt. is unfortunately 3 weeks from now).

    Aeryn

  2. iconracr

    iconracr New Member

    When I had all of my 10 surgeries (8 abdominal) I needed very little or NO pain meds. Even after my emergency c-section.

    the only problem, once the pain gets greater than you, it is hard to control.

    I think you should give it a try, really had helped me.

    C
  3. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Which is like a meditation tape which incorporates different sounds which are supposed to invoke Delta waves. If I use it before bed, I do sleep better. Now that I take Klonopin, though, I seldom use the CD as the Klonopin produces good quality sleep for me.

    Love, Mikie
  4. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    ...is being done by more and more Neurologists. We had one man here who had been on disabiltiy for 6 yrs. with a dx of CFS, but after only 2 Neurofeedback sessions, he was out looking for a job, and he left here and got back to his life. He had a brain injury before getting ill though.

    Since I also had a head injury preceeding my FMS, I almost started Neurobiofeedback with a local Neurologist until I talked to someone here who knew 3 other FMS patients who had done it with the same doctor. The doctor told me the patients had gotten well and gone back to their lives, but the patients told this other lady that the effect wore off once they stopped the treatments, and while they had felt cured during the treatment (it usually took at least 40 treatments), when they stopped, they went right back to being sick.
    This treatment is not covered by insurance and is very expensive, so none of them could keep it up twice per week forever. Here in west central Florida, it costs $1,300 for 20 sessions (10 wks.)if yuo pay for the whole thing in advance, otherwise, it's a lot more.
    if you can afford it, it's definitely worth trying, esp. if you had a a head injury, since most of the studies proving it's worth were done on head injury patients.
    Klutzo
  5. Aeryn

    Aeryn New Member

    Thanks for the replies. I also use the delta cd for sleep. I found a sleep study that said if the cd was used in the second set of one's sleep cycle it had a significant effect on delta sleep, but not if used in the first cycle. I am presently trying to get a stereo set up in my bedroom so I can play it all night. My portable cd player hurts with the headphones and I use it only just as I go to sleep. Still, I think it helps. Everytime I use it the result is better, so maybe my brain is able to adapt to it.

    I didn't know about the neurobiofeedback. I'll ask the specialist.

    You've given me the encouragement to press on in this direction.

    Thanks! A