Breast Implants cause CFS??

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by NatTheCat, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. NatTheCat

    NatTheCat New Member

    Hello
    I am new here. My name is Natalie and I am 27 years old. 9 months ago I got saline breast implants. Ever since then, I have been feeling run down, flu like symptoms, unable to concentrate like before, body aches and insomnia. I did some research and found that in rare cases, breast implants can cause Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia or auto immune disorders.

    I am at a loss of what to do next. If my implants are making me sick, I want to know, but my surgeon is denying that implants could be making me sick. I don't know who to turn to. My regular doctor has no experience with this. My surgeon checked to see if maybe they were leaking but they aren't.

    I wasted $6,000 on something that is ruining my life. I love the look of my implants, but my life is falling apart.
    I have had to cut my hours at work from 40 to 25. I barely have the energy to see my boyfriend, who is not being supportive. He is half the reason I got the implants and now he is being a jerk.

    I don't know what to do.
  2. shanwill

    shanwill Member

    Hi there, I am no expert, but have read several articles about breast implants causing CFS in some patients. I am not surprised your surgeon is denying this. If I were you I'd find a doctor in your area who is experienced with CFS and get at least a proper diagnosis first and go from there.
    Good luck,
    Shannon
  3. bluemoon1monday

    bluemoon1monday New Member

    to my mother who had implants after having both breast removed because of cancer. BUT she did not have saline type. Saline type are supposed to be safest according to current research. Saline is not shown to be harmful to body and easily absorbed.

    Please see another doctor/surgeon that did not do your implants and is not associated with that particular doctor/surgeon.

    The surgeon that did my mother's totally denied that this could be cause, stating they were not leaking. Well, another surgeon found that yes they were. Very tiny holes were allowing slow oozing.

    Take care
    Bluemoon
  4. justjanelle

    justjanelle New Member

    to consider is that it might not be the implants themselves causing the CFS, but the surgery to implant them. There are quite a few of us who have felt the onset of our CFS related to some kind of surgery.

    Best wishes,
    Janelle
  5. carebelle

    carebelle New Member

    There are so many of us that have CFS/FM and do not have implants ,I'm not sure ,but you could have just gotten CFS/FM no matter what.Weather you had implants or not.

    I wouldn't jump into believing they are the cause of yours.I agree you need to see a Doctor that works with CFS/FM as soon as possible.

    This DD at one time or another has made each of us think we know the cause,(wishful thinking) but the truth is no one does yet.

    As for your getting implants, NEVER let a boyfriend talk you into something like that.You have to do it for your self.Just like if you decide to remove them.Do it for you no one else.

    If he is the jerk you say maybe you should hand him a couple of water balloons and show him the door permanently
  6. NyroFan

    NyroFan New Member

    NatTheCat:

    I read a well researched book about the old silicone breast implants and how they would leak and cause all kinds of symptoms and problems.

    They were taking off the market and the manufacturer went bankrupt.

    Saline became the thing to use then. Yet- I read in a jornal that silicone is making a comback. So hard to believe when so many women became so sick from them.

    nyrofan
  7. Kimba4318

    Kimba4318 New Member

    Hi - I just wanted you to know I found the info you supplied very interesting. I had a tummy tuck and breast lift (with implants) over 2 years ago. Unfortunatley I had a staff infection after that surgery which left me with chronic infections and eventually blod clots in my lungs. I loved the way the implants looked but the one side kept getting infected.

    After the 3rd time I had to go on IV antibiotics for weeks ... (and trust me I had seen several Plastic Surgeons to ask if they thought they should be removed). Every PS said there are no facts to support the implants were causing all of these problems. I finally was in the ER for another infection and begged for them to be removed. My indfectious disease doctor said, without a doubt, it is time. I have not had an infection since.

    Since that original surgery, I have developed FM, CFS and now they believe I have lupus (and as I said blood clots in my lungs). I can only go by my experience. I was not the same since having them put in and probably will never be. Maybe my other problems (FM, etc.) were caused by the staff infection, but I would love to turn back time and have my flabby midsection and feel human again.

    Sorry to ramble, but you sounded like I did before getting them removed. I did feel energy again after the removal and a few weeks of antibiotics. I just slid downhill later due to the other health issues that arose.

    I am sure I am not much help, just telling you about my experience. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find some energy again. Hugs :) Kim

  8. caroleye

    caroleye New Member

    While in my late 20's, I had "saline" implants put in. Of course they're covered w/silicone!! I had been healthy all my life, and gradually I started having inflammatory conditions; one after another. Gallbladder removal; bladder problems; endometriosis; then flu-like symptoms.

    Finally was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue, which progressed into Lupus & then Fibro. "NO DR" of the many I went to would have a "clue" about the effects of these. They are an unnatural invader, and sensitive bodies will try to get rid of them. Thus autoimmunity.

    I finally got mine removed several years ago, but the damage had been done. My body has stayed in an auto-immune state, reacting to everything.

    That's my story; others may disagree, but saying SALINE is safe is another lie, in my mind. Especially since SILICONE is right beside it.

    Good luck in making whatever decision you choose. Now that I'm older, I like my little boobs, and so wish I'd never wanted "more".

    LIGHT**********carole
  9. mimilove

    mimilove New Member

    Hello NatTheCat...

    I have had my saline implants now for 13 yrs. I did not read all of the replies but I believe you got an excellent reply from Caroleye.

    And I would further direct you to read "implants morbidity", just do a search on that and it should come up, if it doesn't let me know.

    I have been wondering myself, reg drs don't know and without a doubt your Dr is going to say no. Mine was put in by my then cosmetic surgeon boyfriend who advised me at the time of the big silicone trial to put my name on the list. And I had completely forgotten about it until here recently when I became very sick in Jan 06. I asked the Rheumatologist if I have connective tissue disorder; but that in itself is such a controversial topic. She said no but I don't quite believe it.

    In any case my name is with the silicone lawsuit overthere, and if you end up having a disease such as connective tissue there is still a while for me to prove it even if it's closed for you to actually put your name down on the list. I did that back in 1995. Got a letter from them in 2001, which I never opened, until here recently when I got ill. I have gotten all my records from Italy since. It took moving a mountain because my ex is no longer practicing and I have no more contacts with so.

    As Caroleye says even if it's saline it's enveloped in Silicone.....you just need to find out if it's from the bad batch by getting your records maybe. You can also I believe get tested to see if you have silicone in your body....not to sure about that one though.

    As for me, mine are pretty old now and not sure if you know they do not last foreever they look pretty calcified maybe due to all the illness. There are pretty specific ways to go about "Aging Breast Implants" which you don't have.

    Hope that helps

    Mimi
  10. julieisfree05

    julieisfree05 New Member

    This is a special area of interest for my FM Specialist. He practices in Beverely Hills (Implant captital of the world!) and has seen it so often that he KNOWS it can happen.

    Having the implants removed may not help at this point, but it may help keep you from continuing to get sicker.

    -julie (is free!)

    I raise my hands
    I bow my head
    I'm finding more and more truth
    in the words written in red
    They tell my that there's more to this
    than just what I can see
    I believe.... - Brooks and Dunn
  11. ohmygoodness

    ohmygoodness New Member

    Well it's been over 10 years since I had the saline implants. Only to be a nice A cup....I wish Ally McBeal was around when I was growing up. I will admit that after that surgery my upper back pain started. I had a laproscopy that same year. After an injury to my hip area my lower back pain started. But I just don't know. I was pretty active after the implants and strong, I felt like I was OK. To go in there again to remove them just makes me feel like I'd be asking for more pain. I will not get bunion surgery, my feet now hurt horribly so it's my total body. I don't want anyone doing anything invasive anymore to me unless I'm dying and believe me there are days when it hurts that much. But it's only the fibro.
  12. NatTheCat

    NatTheCat New Member

    Thank you to everyone who took the time to reply to my post, I sincerely appreciate it.

    I have been looking for a doctor who treats Chronic Fatigue in my area but have been unsuccessful. I have also been reading about Fibromyalgia and I think I may have that also. I have a sore feeling in my muscles.

    I think in my first post I came across as some dumb girl who let her jerky boyfriend talk her into getting breast implants, and that was my fault. However, it isn't really like that. I have wanted breast implants since I was 16 and realized I was never going to be bigger than an A cup. I also got them after I gradauted college but I chickened out.

    When I met my boyfriend he never suggested breast implants ever, he always told me I looked perfect the way I was, but after I started talking about them he really encouraged me to get them. Partly because he thought they would improve my self esteem.

    He has been unsupportive of my "illness" I believe because the doctors haven't found anything wrong with me, I have had a lot of blood tests and he doesn't really think my implants could be causing this.

    I was one of those annoyingly healthy people before I got implants. I rarely even got a cold. The symtoms started slowly after I got the implants, and have gotten worse each month. My job has suffered. I was planning on entering grad school but that dream has been shelved. I am rethinking my relationship with my boyfriend. My friends (all but two) haven't been that supportive either, which is the most hurtful of all because most of my friends I have known since high school. Since all my bloodwork is normal, I guess everyone thinks it is in my head.

    I don't know where to turn or what to do.
  13. 1sweetie

    1sweetie New Member

    Great Question. I had to have a double mastectomy in 1997 and had a tram flap reconstruction at the time. They gathered the skin and what little fat (I was 105 lb) at the time from my stomach to make new breasts. They also had to use implants because there was not enought fat to work.

    I have always thought that all the long, numerous surgeries caused my problems. I do have saline but of course the sack is silicone. It have been thinking about it recently. I saw a picture of the mold that was on one that had been removed. It was scary. I know how doctors feel about it. The ones that I have dealt with never believed the silicone implants were a problem.

    If I knew, it was causing the problem, I would have them removed but I would have to be sure. The pain and time that I went through to have this procedure was hard on me.
  14. Jody123

    Jody123 Member

    Natalie and anyone else who is interested in reading about the problems breast implants can cause, there's a great website on Breast Implant Illness that has a lot of information called healing breast implant illness. There are a lot of people who have been diagnosed with CFS (myself included) who have had implants, and a lot who have Fibro and other illnesses too. There's also research being done on a syndrome called ASIA or Shoenfeld's Syndrome. I watched my health decline over the last several years until I felt like I was dying. When I changed doctors to one who listened to me and took my complaints seriously (which is more important than anything else), she sent me to check the condition of my implants. Turned out one was severely ruptured. Within a short time, I had them both removed and all of my symptoms disappeared. The plastic surgeon who removed my implants told me that she has seen that happen time after time. The only symptom I have now is the CFS, which developed and hit me while I still had the implants. I actually joined this site to see if there are others who have had implants and also have CFS, and to see if there's any valid research on the connection. I'm attaching an article by Prof Shoenfeld. I know that this string is over 10 years old, but I'm hoping you are all still there.

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