Canadians now a U.S. citizen

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Aeronsmom, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. Aeronsmom

    Aeronsmom New Member

    How did you become a U.S. citizen? thru marriage or work?
    was it tough becoming a U.S. citizen? I know I have to get out of Canada...don't get me wrong I love Canada..but I have to think of my health. any words of encouragement would be great.

    Ann
  2. Aeronsmom

    Aeronsmom New Member





    I cannot handle the cold here and the summers are very humid at here where I am..... please don't always believe what you hear, we do pay for medical...maybe not up front but in the end WE DO!! as for Doctors.... we have a shortage on Dr's here. either they are not accepting anymore people or they are moving to the U.S.
    as for meds..I had to pay for every meds that I received a prescription for. again don't always believe what you hear.
    I just need to live somewhere where it's not too cold in the winter and not too hot in the summer.

    Ann




  3. Fudge43

    Fudge43 New Member

    Ann ... I'm in Kingston .. so the hot/Humid summers are horrible for me too .. spend most of my time in the house with the AC .. and I am an avid gardener so it really is frustrating for me ... I can understand how you feel.

    We are fortunate to have a good GP .. but there are serious shortages of health care providers .. not only doctors .. nurses too ... and it is only going to get worse with tha baby boomers retiring .. what a mess .. McGinty ? is a horrible premier and went back on all of his elections promises .. we should have been able to kick him out !

    In any case .. no matter what happens .. I'm a Canuck and would NOT go south of the border for anything .. but I do understand your point of view too !
    Good luck with finding the right place and the move.
    Joy : )
  4. Jane_Canuck

    Jane_Canuck New Member

    Where in Canada are you that life is so bad?

    I lived all over AB and in Kelowna BC.

    I married an American and DO NOT LET HOLLYWOOD FOOL YOU! It takes forever to get a green card because Canada is not a persicuted country. I have been here 3 years and just because i married an american does not mean you get an instant green card...

    A brit I was talking to had to get one when she came when she got married and took 5 years and now she has to renew and the renew is taking just about as long.

    IT IS NOT EASY! Make sure this is what you really want. Where in the USA do you wnt to go??

    Had I known everything I know now I never would have left CAnada but made him come to me.

    GL Brenda
  5. KerryK

    KerryK Member

    I agree. Most parts of Canada are basically unliveable.

    However, I have lived in Calgary the last several years and find the climate to be very favorable. The weather is almost always dry with low humidity. Summers are typically cool and winters, with the exception of 3 or 4 weeks, are quite mild and calm.

    Why not Calgary?
  6. Aeronsmom

    Aeronsmom New Member

    just some where that I am not house bound in the winter and not to humid. I live in Fort Erie, Ontario and the summers can get very very hot and humid and the winters get very very bitterly cold. Calgary is an option..so I can put that on my list.
    Ann
  7. Pianowoman

    Pianowoman New Member

    Ann,
    I agree that Southern Ontario can be difficult weather wise but there are other areas that might be better. I would check out some areas in Western Canada before you think about moving out of country.

    Our health care is superior to the US unless you are wealthy and our drugs are cheaper. Sometimes the grass looks greener when you are discouraged. Finding care for FM/CFS is difficult anywhere and that compounds the frustration.

    Another thought, look at Nova Scotia as well. They have been ahead of the rest of us in researching and treating environmental medicine.

    Just some of my thoughts.
    Kathy.
  8. Fudge43

    Fudge43 New Member

    ... I have lived many times in N.S. and I can say you would be more comfortable there .. I had that discussion with some one else not too long ago .. I too have lived all over Canada .. N.S. to Comox on Vancouver Island and in the Netherlands for 4 years .. but NO place is as tough as Ontario .. KINGSTON when it comes to extreme weather ..
    So the desperation of escaping this can drive you to do strange things ... but becoming an American ? ... nahhhhhhh !
    Hey .... just having a laugh .. even though Canadians are serious about being Canadians !! haha
  9. spiritsky

    spiritsky Member

    I've been living in Sunny California for 10 years now. I love the sun and the short winters, but it's not a rose garden here either. Canada has a lot to offer and my wife and I are thinking of moving back to Vancouver Island. Yes it's wet in the winter but there's a warmth and charm in Canada that you don't find here. Whenever I return to Canada I alwasys notice that people smile at you more, are more relaxed and generally on the whole seem happier.

    Another thing is there's no social saftey net here for those that are the most vulnerable (like us). You are on your own here. And doctors, well they are just as bad here as they are in Canada.

    If I were you I would stay a Canadian resident so that you have access to the social benefits but spend your winters down here if you can.

    Good luck.


  10. Cromwell

    Cromwell New Member

    Has a fantastic climate, why not consider moving to BC?

    Vancouver Island is just lovely. The climate never gets too hot or too cold. I am from UK and would live in Canada if I could get in. We live in USA as my DH was born here. Life seems so much easier in UK and Canada. For a start, the health care, good paid leave, better protection, plus despite Canadians owning more guns per capita than the USA the gun crime and murder rate is a very small fraction of that here. Plus your education system is friendlier.

    I have to check where you live. Probably Toronto or somewhere cold. Though Toronto is a lovely city.

    As to medical. My brother lives in Ontario and believe me, I know it costs about twenty times as much here for medical. Like UK you DO pay a deduction for Insurance, but my Blue Cross here as part of a group plan for self employed is over $5,000 us a year just for me, and I have 20% deductables, plus meds cost more. Plus you have a far better social net. I am so familiar with both countries, I love the USA but Canada has a lot of things going for it we do not have here.

    I am married to a person who was born here. I have decided after 23 years that I may decide to do my citizenship this year.

    Unless you have an extraordinary skill that is in short supply here, or lots of money, the waiting list is very long for resident permit in the USA, and you have to show a lot of credibility to be here. Then it would take at least three years to apply for citizenship so long as you met all of the requirements.

    If you possess the skill, the best bet would be to try and find a company to sponsor you. But I have to warn you, I know people here who have been sponsored and working for neraly five years and whose youngest child was born here, and they have not been able to renew their green card and have to sell their house and move. Math teachers are in greta demand here but some states (like NY) will not employ non citizens, other states (like NJ and WV will)

    This is why there is such a big illegal immigrant thing here as it really is too hard to get in unless you are married to a USA citizen, and even then, it is not automatic.

    Well good luck whatever you try. What about Oz? or NZ? Oz are looking for skilled people I heard.

    Love Anne C
    [This Message was Edited on 04/23/2006]
  11. Cromwell

    Cromwell New Member

    That the only place in USA that does NOT have hot and humid summers is Alaska, coastal Oregon and Washington, and I won't even mention northern CA as it is so expensive. The BC climate is similar. There are some lovely islands in BC that have micro climates too. Everywhere else is steaming hot and look at the waether patterns-you don't hear of many tornadoes hitting Canada for sure.

    Love AC
  12. springrose22

    springrose22 New Member

    I live in B.C. Nelson, Castlegar area, and wouldn't move to the U.S. permanently for two reasons: the climate/weather, and the very high cost of medical care. Probably many of the northeastern states have quite acceptable weather, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, etc. But, tornadoes, hurricanes, and hot/humid weather would finish me off. Of course, we pay for medical care through our taxes, but there is not the social safety net that we have here. I noticed that many U.S. people with CFS/Fibro are often having to hire lawyers to get SSD benefits. If anyone thinks that Drs. in Canada are worse than those in the states, then I think they are in for a big surprise. Why not think of winters in Arizona? They are dry, I believe. Marie
  13. belly_acres

    belly_acres New Member

    The one and only dr we had practicing in my small alberta town is moving to Castlegar. He isn't the worst doc but not the best either - he missed my skin cancer - just dismissed it totally - another doc we had in did a biopsy and it came back as melanoma - be watchful

    Cori
  14. Pianowoman

    Pianowoman New Member

    We have Doctors here in all specialities that are every bit as good as those in the US. There is ground breaking research being done in many larger centers here. Sure, a few Docs have moved to the US but we also have American doctors working here. If I had a seious illness, I would be pretty confident about getting good care here. The only exception would be if a treatment was not available in Canada.

    Kathy.
  15. dragon06

    dragon06 New Member

    who moved to the US for marriage. I just received my green card after 2 years of waiting. I have to wait another 3 years before applying for citizenship.

    One thing I do have to say is that Canada doesn't have better Health Care, just different Health Care. Yes, a lot of things are covered by the federal government but it takes FOREVER to get the treatments/operations/etc. There are places in Ontario where there is such a shortage of doctors that people don't have thier own family (GP) doctor and have to constantly visit clinics and pay surcharges. Not to mention if you are sick enough to require narcotics these can't be dispensed from a clinic, it has to be through your GP, Specialist or ER Doc.

    And prescriptions are not covered unless you are on disability.

    There are pros and cons to both systems but I would not say that either one is better than the other and I have experienced both with FM.

    On that note...it is very hard to move to the US without a valid reason...i.e. marriage, work transfer, special worker etc.

    You can reside in the US for up 180 days and then return to Canada (which is what most "snowbirds" do). You need to stay in Canada for at least 2 weeks before returning to the states. You will have to check with the border to see if they will let you do this more than once per year as it changes all the time. Keep in mind you cannot work as this kind of visitor.

    There are a lot of ways to immigrate etc...it would be wise to check out the US VISA & Immigration and Homeland Security websites and see what options you have.

    Also, Canadians DO NOT qualify for the "Greencard Lottery".
  16. lovethesun

    lovethesun New Member

    Ventura Ca(southern Cal)The temperature runs mostly in the low to mid 70's,in the few rainy months it run's in the 60's.It is dry and not a whole lot of fronts move past us.All California has earthquakes,but Ventura doesn't have severe ones.I'm 53 and only know of 3 quakes south of this area.I feel better here-Just wanted people to know.Linda
  17. Aeronsmom

    Aeronsmom New Member

    that is soooo true isn't it...the only way I can move to the U.S. is if I married someone there or possible have a job or have relatives...hey..I know...I can always say that I'm your long lost sister and I'm coming to stay with you and then apply for a green card ;) LOL
    oh well...wishfull thinking.

    Ann
  18. Aeronsmom

    Aeronsmom New Member

    well from what I read on the internet this is the case...please someone prove me wrong!!!

    I went to so many different sites on the internet regarding obtaining a U.S. citizenship. we wlcome anyone in Canada with open arms...just wish we can have the same invitation....Oh dear..I really hope I'm not starting fight.
    Ann
    [This Message was Edited on 04/24/2006]
  19. Cromwell

    Cromwell New Member

    I have family in Canada and I cannot get in to live there permanently by the way, just to clarify that US Citizens or even a Brit like I am, cannot just go and live in Canada and be an actual part of everything.

    I also wanted to say that here in NY I waited for 5 months to see a rheumy and 4 to see a neuro, who will not even give me a second much needed slot!

    I think there is much misunderstanding about there is no wait to see specialists here-there is often a long wait and when you get there no guarantee the specialist is much good.

    However, I do think we have a lot more machines here for MRI's etc but there again maybe they are overused unnecessarily too.

    My brother got amazing treatment in Ontario for his cancer and is a 12 year survivor. He was operated on within three days of dx and got extraordinary care at a good hospital, but he has said that the services, like they have all over the world really are not as good as they used to be.

    I think this is largely due to the fact that we have so many different diseases being recognised and treated. I recall a time when hospitals only operated on tonsils, appendix and amputations-look at all the specialized surgeries these days. Times have changed.

    I think Ohio is lovely too, but the weather is about the same as Ontario-cold winters and humid summers.

    Anyway good luck to you.

    Love Anne C
  20. Aeronsmom

    Aeronsmom New Member

    well, I hate to say this but... it took me 9 months to get my MRI, 6 months to see my Neuro amd 6.5 months to see my Rheumy the first time, I made an appointment just in Dec to see him again because of the pain and they gave me an appointment for June 20!!!! this is just outrageous.
    Ann