CFS: Detoxification Using Chlorella and Other Natural Methods

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Slayadragon, Jul 11, 2008.

  1. Slayadragon

    Slayadragon New Member

    I'm continuing to look at information about detoxing (and especially detoxing of neurotoxins) and found this article.

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    I think I've heard Dr. Klinghardt's name before but don't know anything about him. He doesn't cite any sources for his suggestions, and I'm a bit hesitant to take them terribly seriously without knowing more about him.

    I was especially interested in the section on chlorella, a substance that I know little about.

    Does anyone here:

    * Know anything about Dr. Klinghardt?
    * Have information or experiences regarding chlorella?
    * Have any other comments about the article?



    3. Chlorella:
    Both C.pyreneidosa (better absorption of toxins, but harder to digest) and
    C.vulgaris (higher CGF content – see below, easier to digest, less metal
    absorbing capability) are available. A peer-review literature list is available from
    BioPure. Be aware that there are huge differences in quality. We only
    recommend BioPure chlorella.

    Chlorella has multiple published health inducing effects:

    Antiviral (especially effective against the cytomegaly virus from the herpes
    • Toxin binding (mucopolysaccharide membrane) all known toxic metals,
    environmental toxins such as dioxin and others
    • Repairs and activates the body’s detoxification functions:
    • Dramatically increases intra-cellular reduced glutathion,
    • Sporopollein is as effective as cholestyramin in binding neurotoxins and
    more effective in binding toxic metals then any other natural substance
    • Various peptides restore coeruloplasmin and metallothioneine,
    • Lipids (12.4 %) alpha-and gamma-linoleic acid help to balance the increased
    intake of fish oil during our detox program and are necessary for a multitude
    of functions, including formation of there peroxisomes.
    • Methyl-coblolamine is food for the nervous system, restores damaged
    neurons and has its own detoxifying effect.
    • Chlorella growth factor helps the body detoxify itself in a yet not understood
    profound way. It appears that over millions of years chlorella has developed
    specific detoxifying proteins and peptides for every existing toxic metal.
    • The porphyrins in chlorophyll have their own strong metal binding effect.

    Chlorophyll also activates the PPAR-receptor on the nucleus of the cell
    which is responsible for the transcription of DNA and coding the formation
    of the peroxisomes (see fish oil), opening of the cell wall (unknown
    mechanism) which is necessary for all detox procedures, normalizes insulin
    resistance and much more. Medical drugs that activate the PPAR receptor
    (such as pioglitazone) have been effective in the treatment of breast and
    prostate cancer.

    • Super nutrient: 50-60% amino acid content, ideal nutrient for vegetarians,
    methylcobolamin - the most easily absorbed and utilized form of B12, B6,
    minerals, chlorophyll, beta carotene etc.
    • Immune system strengthening
    • Restores bowel flora
    • Digestive aid (bulking agent)
    • Alkalinizing agent (important for patients with malignancies)

    Dosage: start with 1 gram (=4 tablets) 3-4 times/day. This is the standard
    maintenance dosage for grown ups for the 6-24 months of active detox. During
    the more active phase of the detox (every 2-4 weeks for 1 week), whenever
    cilantro is given, the dose can be increased to 3 grams 3-4 times per day (1 week
    on, 2-4 weeks back down to the maintenance dosage). Take 30 minutes before
    the main meals and at bedtime. This way chlorella is exactly in that portion of
    the small intestine where the bile squirts into the gut at the beginning of the
    meal, carrying with it toxic metals and other toxic waste. These are bound by
    the chlorella cell wall and carried out via the digestive tract.

    When amalgam fillings are removed, the higher dose should be given for 2 days
    before and 2-5 days after the procedure (the more fillings are removed, the
    longer the higher dose should be given). No cilantro should be given around the
    time of dental work. During this time we do not want to mobilize deeply stored
    metals in addition to the expected new exposure. If you take Vitamin C during
    your detox program, take it as far away from Chlorella as possible (best after

    Side effects: most side effects reflect the toxic effect of the mobilized metals
    which are shuttled through the organism. This problem is instantly avoided by
    significantly increasing the chlorella dosage, not by reducing it, which would
    worsen the problem (small chlorella doses mobilize more metals then are bound
    in the gut, large chlorella doses bind more toxins then are mobilized). Some
    people have problems digesting the cell membrane of chlorella. The enzyme
    cellulase resolves this problem. Cellulase is available in many health food stores
    in digestive enzyme products. Taking chlorella together with food also helps in
    some cases, even though it is less effective that way. C.vulgaris has a thinner
    cell wall and is better tolerated by people with digestive problems. Some
    manufactures have created cell wall free chlorella extracts (NDF, PCA) which
    are very expensive, less effective - but easily absorbed.

    Chlorella growth factor (CGF)
    This is a heat extract from chlorella that concentrates certain peptides, proteins
    and other ingredients. The research on CGF shows that children develop no
    tooth decay and their dentition (maxillary-facial development) is near perfect.
    There are less illnesses and children grow earlier to a larger size with higher I.Q
    and are socially more skilled. There are case reports of patients with dramatic
    tumor remissions after taking CGF in higher amounts. In our experience, CGF
    makes the detox experience for the patient much easier, shorter and more

    Recommended dosage: 1 cap. CGF for each 20 tablets chlorella

    <br>[<i>This Message was Edited on 07/13/2008</i>]
  2. Forebearance

    Forebearance Member

    Well, I tell ya, I've been taking small amounts of Chlorella for years. So according to this guy, I'm toast!

  3. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    I took it a few years ago and of course had immediate strong detox reaction. I think I started with 6 or 8 tablets, cannot remember, had to cut way back, finally to 1 tablet a day. Then I discovered molybdenum and when I added that was able to work up to about 6 tablets a day.

    I stopped taking it, can't remember why. I was taking it for heavy metals, and keep planning to restart it. I just hate detoxing every time I turn around.

    The article says that if you start to detox, you're to take more chlorella, not less, but that scares me. I've just had too rough a time with it. It would be interesting to see if that worked for anyone.

    Everything I've read says it is supposed to be very very good for you. I'm still deotxing on the iodine, trying to get back to detoxing on the methylation protocol. detox, detox, no end in sight --

  4. marti_zavala

    marti_zavala Member

    I believe that if you have mercury as one of your heavy metals that chlorella is not a good one to take because it only has 1 thiol which means that it can readily grab a mercury ion but the bond is not strong enough.

    Chelators with two thiols are preferred if mercury is an issue.

    I have forgotten the list of two thiol chelators but I will try to find that info and post it here.

    Kind of brain fogged today.

    okay, I found a couple of references - here is one from Andrew Cutler discussing dithiols (two thiols) and mono thiols (of which chlorella is one of them).

    Other than the mercury issue, I think chlorella is a good supplement.

    > From A. Cutler:
    > First, here is the basic chemistry of
    > chelating agents and what they do. The body
    > is full of thiol groups. Chemically, these are
    > -SH groups attached to body tissues that grab
    > onto things like mercury ions and hold them.
    > Thus a medicine or nutrient with ONE thiol
    > group will make the mercury in a person's
    > body bounce around faster. This will cause a
    > lot more damage, but it makes the mercury
    > come out a little faster. A chelating agent is
    > something with TWO OR MORE thiol
    > groups in the same molecule which holds
    > onto the mercury more tightly than a lone
    > thiol group. Thus a chelating agent is more
    > likely to pick up a mercury and move it a long
    > ways - perhaps out of the body - before
    > redepositing it and allowing it to do more
    > damage. Mercury does its damage when it
    > first settles down on the thiol groups that are
    > a natural part of the human body. This is
    > why chelating agents are much safer for
    > mercury removal than penicillamine,
    > glutathione, cysteine, high sulfur foods,
    > chlorella, MSM, etc. Such things are not
    > really chelating agents. Things that have two
    > thiols and actually are chelating agents are
    > DMPS, DMSA, BAL, and lipoic acid. The
    > way chelators and monothiol agents work is
    > shown schematically in the figure on page
    > 200.
    ><br>[<i>This Message was Edited on 07/12/2008</i>]
  5. deliarose

    deliarose New Member

    I used E-lyte's german chlorella for a while. Can't say I noticed much difference ....but of course, I was pretty ill then.. so that may not mean anything.

    Quit when I read it was a weak chelator. Same with glutathione IVs.. gave them up for the same reason. This whole chelation issue is a pain in the ass.

    Klinghardt: Christine over at CFS-Yasko was a patient of his.. He eventually gave up and told her to try Yasko.

    But that doesn't mean some of his ideas couldn't be helpful.

  6. illroy

    illroy Member

    It's not well-known, but chlorella
    has a high level of vitamin D.
    I've seen some patients report that
    it made them worse.
  7. Forebearance

    Forebearance Member

    Thank you for chopping up that first long link, Slaya.

    I have been reading health magazines all morning and I have an idea for something natural that might do the same thing as Actos. It's called PG X and it's made by Natural Factors.

    It seems to be a new thing that is intended to be really helpful for diabetics. Actos is also supposed to be really helpful for diabetics. And this PG X stuff looks like it wouldn't hurt anyone, which is a quality I like in a supplement.

    I'll do some more research on this supp tomorrow. It is supposed to lower insulin resistance and cause weight loss.

    <br>[<i>This Message was Edited on 07/13/2008</i>]
  8. Forebearance

    Forebearance Member

    Okay, I read more about PG X today. There is a book written about it called "Hunger Free Forever" by Michael T. Murray ND and Michael R. Lyon MD. It is supposed to lower insulin resistance.

    Lowering insulin resistance is probably not a bad thing for anyone who's overweight, so I'm going to get some and try it.

    Interestingly, there is a companion product called Wellbett X which is soluble fiber. Aha! The plot thickens!

    Actually, if soluble fiber is involved, the plot literally thickens!

  9. realtired44

    realtired44 New Member

    illroy, do you have a source for chlorella being high in vitamin D? thanks.

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