Chiro did it again

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Didoe, Apr 7, 2007.

  1. Didoe

    Didoe New Member

    Hi all
    Saw chiro on Friday for weekly session. Can't go more than once a week because I work and the fallout from sessions means being overwhelmed with pain and tiredness.

    He starts out all chatty and turns on his hand held massage machine-swear it must have been at max force and I said Doc, please, its too strong it hurts. He says, hold on I'm almost done, you're doing good.

    I am so buzzed with pain this morning, I'm trembling. Need to work and just want to sleep. I'm here talking because if I dont do something I WILL sleep and day sleep makes me really nasuseaous.

    My employer is waiting for a 'treatment plan' before moving forward with accomodations so this chiro gave me a note I'm in treatment with him. But I'm wondering if chiropractic is something I cant tolerate anymore or this guy is just in a hurry to more things along. It seems he either doesnt get FM altho he's quite nice about trying to help, but treatment wise he doesnt listen.
  2. LittleBluestem

    LittleBluestem New Member

    Are you sure you should be in that much pain after chiropractic treatment? It might be a good idea to consult a second chiro and compare the results.
  3. PVLady

    PVLady New Member

    I would definitely consult with another chiropractor. Your body is telling you it hurts. Your instincts are saying, this is no good.

    I say follow your instincts.
  4. Didoe

    Didoe New Member

    Think you're right
    I had to change family doc, rhuematologist and its seems even need a different chiropractor. I meet with rhumeatologust soon and will see if she's going to refer me to anyone for more tests. If not I'll change chiros...I dont know why my reaction to chiropractic is unusual, any exercise or over exertion with errands etc lays me up for hours or 1-2 days with chills, nausea and terrible fatigue. That doesnt seem to be much different from other FM sufferers...does it??
    He CAN use a low speed on the electric massage machine, he deliberately used the hardest and wanted to see if I could handle it, even after I asked him to lower it. When he tried this 2 weeks ago I faxed him a note asking to please not do it again. At my next visit he said, "we dont know what your body can handle until we try it" So this is his way of practicing. I dont know why he's in such a hurry, its a couple of months, not years that I've been seeing him. Insurance pays him 150 a visit for 5 minutes of this nonsense.
  5. jmq

    jmq New Member

    Hi Didoe, just got back in town and catching up on all the posts that I have missed. My trip will be another post..Definitely not Italy!!! I know, I know... should have listened to you!

    I wanted to tell you to look for a good chiro. I know you are totally exhausted but try to ask around or search the web because the guy you have sounds totally lazy! My chiro has a huge office full of people and he still takes his time and will sometimes even gently stretch me if I can not be manipulated. He never uses the machines to message or adjust. He also has a message therapist that is covered under my BCBS insurance.

    Hope you have luck...both with the docs and at work..
    jmq
  6. Didoe

    Didoe New Member

    helloo sweetpea
    missed ya bunches
    what, no postcard?
    no tacky tourist gift?
    no cocoanut patties?
    no chocolate covered macadamaians?
    ahh life...

    yep, time to doc shop again:)
    if i didnt have to provide a treatment plan for the buttheads i work for i wouldnt be whining, just trying to rally everyone on the same page and finish with it so i can work and take time as needed. i dont know why that's such an challenging request to the Powers that run the universe.
  7. rpatzer

    rpatzer New Member

    Stay away from the chiros. They can't offer any relief for FM. Adjustments don't have anything to do with FM. They will subject you to other modalities but that is because they are allowed to bill the insurance up to 4 different modalities (codes) from 1-4 units each code. They are just pumping the bill. I think their average insurance bill is around $150/visit.
    YOu need to see a specialist who is familiar with FM.
  8. hambys97

    hambys97 New Member

    I have been seeing a chiro for longer than I have been diagnosed. I typically do not hurt worse, only if he has had to do some major work on me. Most of the time I feel better when I walk out than I did going in, even if only for a few hours.
    I do think chiropractic care can be a useful tool for fibro if you can find the right one. It's just like any other doc, you have to find the right fit for you.
    Good luck!
  9. Didoe

    Didoe New Member

    ACtually I have badly degenerated discs and for my back and discs, chiro is wonderful.
    But the FM symptoms cannot tolerate the adjustments I normally was used to 10 years ago.
    On top of the FM, the trauma of my recent divorce and certain things that happened really has me unable to handle the violence of being banged around too much.
    I calmly explained it, he knows my ex, so he's being either cruel or stupid, but either way I'm doc shopping. One request should ahve been enough, having to say it 2x in a month means bye bye.
    Thanks all for feedback and support on this.
  10. rpatzer

    rpatzer New Member

    If you have any disc problems, don't get adjusted. A degenerated disc means less space between the vertebrae putting more pressure on the nerves coming out of the vertebrae. The best that a chiro can do for a disc problem is to use the decompression table. That will gently pull the vertebrae apart, giving space to those nerves. Both my chiros have those tables and they work great for disc problems.
    [This Message was Edited on 04/09/2007]
  11. coolma

    coolma New Member

    if you have degenerated discs, or spine/neck problems you have to be VERY careful about manipulations.

    There is ALOT of evidence that fibro is in part, caused by DDD and you could actually be making your condition worse. Soft tissue release on spasms works OK at the chiro - but that's about it if you are one of those with DDD. every person is different and if you have enough damage to your spine you are really playing with fire. I know - been there, done that, not doing it again!

    Most people with fibro (so far, I think it is about 80% have back injury/degeneration) and specialists have tied the two together. On this board this has been validated for me. SO many people with DDD and herniated discs.

    The body has the inate ability to heal itself over TIME, and REST and treating yourself properly. The degree of your healing depends on alot of mitigating factors: how long you've been ill, the extent of the damage to the spine, stress levels, your nutrition, etc.

    Research and knowledge are your best ammunition! Good luck and better health!