Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by RunningAntelope, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. RunningAntelope

    RunningAntelope New Member

    As constipation is almost universal in this illness due to a problem with CNS signaling, gut dysbiosis, and poor digestive and exocrine function, what do you all do to mitigate the severity of a "blocked-up" bowel? I've tried mag citrate, herbal laxative teas at night, etc, but nothing seems to be a magic bullet. I take digestive enzymes with and without food, and taking more olive oil and certain probiotics like mutaflor and sacchormyces seems to help, but again, they're not perfect. I drink coffee to help pull the trigger, and I'd like to be able to taper off of it as it is a cytochrome activator.

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  2. kat211

    kat211 New Member

    I eat a bowl of steel cut oats with ground hazelnuts, flax seed, and blueberries or raisins every morning. It took a couple of days to take effect, but it has gotten my digestive system to work like clockwork (something I have never experienced).
  3. loto

    loto Member

    I have to take stool softener with stimulant tablets every night before bed. Sometimes I take up to 3 tablets per night, and it usually helps me. Sometimes not, though, and it's very frustrating. Makes you feel terrible all over, doesn't it? I also try to eat more foods with fiber, but then I get so bloated that it feels almost worse than the constipation itself.

    How about drinking Dr. Pepper?? I have to laugh because I drink it very rarely, but when I would drink a can of it, it did the trick!!!! Wonder what's in it to make me go?
  4. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Active Member

    Hi Bill - Have you tried prunes? Eat 10 a day until you get results.

    If you don't have high blood pressure you can try salt water. First thing in the morning on an empty stomach drink a glass of warm water with 1/2 to 1 tsp of salt. Wait 15 minutes before eating. If you do this everyone morning for about a week it can help to train your body to have a regular bowel movement every morning.

    Good luck!

  5. TigerLilea

    TigerLilea Active Member

    It could be salt that is the active ingredient in Dr Pepper. I know that the reason they have to put so much sugar in Coke is to disguise the taste of the extreme amount of salt that is added to the pop. You wouldn't think of there being salt in colas but apparently there is a ton of it added.
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  6. loto

    loto Member

    Wow, I wouldn't have thought about salt in the Dr. Pepper. Thanks for the info!
  7. gasolo

    gasolo New Member

    Hi Bill,

    Consider trying Miralax. It is non-toxic and highly effective. In large quantities it was used as a bowel prep before colonoscopy. If taken as directed in a glass of water, it is tasteless and usually works within three days. It is very gentle and generally doesn't cause any discomfort.
    It is non-absorbable and is over the counter.

  8. kat0465

    kat0465 New Member

    does the trick for me, if i drink at least 6 to 8 ounces a day im good. but sometimes i get tired of drinking it, and im back to square one again.
    i second the steel cut oats, or even raisin bran will do.
    not only do we not function right, all the pain meds we take make everything 10 times worse!
  9. RunningAntelope

    RunningAntelope New Member

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I get plenty of fiber, but milling flaxseed to put in my cereal (I'm gluten-free) is a good suggestion. I would think the magnesium would need to be tempered by calcium, but I do drink goat kefir as well and get plenty of probiotics. The thing is, I, and I think I speak for all of us, don't want to get "addicted" to any one remedy. Senna works well for my wife, but she can't operate without it now.

    The salt water is interesting and good for orthostatic intolerance anyway, but I've got that problem solved. I may give the Miralax a shot as well. Or psyllium. Not really eating much fruit (besides occasional berries in cereal) and restricting the sugar, so prunes would be too much.

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  10. luigi21

    luigi21 Member

    i find psyllium husk with probiotics helpful, forms a soft gel in the gut, must drink plenty of water though. if using the teas, the slimmer teas are good to get bowel going must let them brew for 5 minutes but may be running to loo for the whole of next day. i do tend to drink coffee, although ive heard prunes are good for some people (not dried) in a tin. hope this gets you going, wish you well.
  11. Jayna

    Jayna New Member

    In addition to all of the above, low iron can also be a cause of constipation. Once I started taking an iron supplement again, my bowel movements became much more regular. For males or post-menopausal women, though, you should get your iron checked before supplementing as too much iron is bad for you in many ways.
  12. Waynesrhythm

    Waynesrhythm Member

    Hi RA,

    I put whole chia seeds (about 2 oz) into a quart jar of water, and sip on it throughout the day. (Dont' usually finish the whole quart in one day). Chia flour has no gluten and is also supposed to be good for constipation. Neither my partner or I do well with flaxseed, but both do well with chia seeds.

    I think there's been some cautionary notes about flaxseed recently, something about estrogen dominance or something like that. I think chia might be a good alternative to flax. You could probably find some good information on chia seeds for constipation (which also has EFAs) by doing a quick search.

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  13. MrHappyGoLucky12

    MrHappyGoLucky12 New Member

    Try Gastric Complex -
  14. simonedb

    simonedb Member

    hey RA, didnt you get some mutaflor? I finally just bought some and it works great, didnt know that would be one of the effects. thing is, its expensive, I am wondering if there is any cheaper source of it and in u.s. too maybe not just germany.

    also someone on here had posted about "fruiteze" from portland, a paste of prunes and raisins etc that works if you can tolerate the stuff in it
  15. RunningAntelope

    RunningAntelope New Member

    Yes, I do take mutaflor, alternating months on and months off. I think I'm just going to take it contiguously and up the dosage. I currently take two twice per day. I'm not sure if you can get it anywhere but Germany, since it's such a specific strain. I also heavily supplement with kefir, both goat and coconut water. I think the probiotics are paramount for the gut ecology.

    I'm trying the salt suggestion in the am. Thanks for the chia seeds recommendation Wayne.

    I get plenty of fiber in the diet and try to drink copious amounts of water.

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  16. victoria

    victoria New Member

    One of my kids used to have problems... our pediatrician, who was all for alternative meds, told me to soak chia, psyllium and I think flax in apple juice (or water) for 12 hours.

    1 tsp for a toddler was all it took, time to work was only 30 or fewer minutes. By soaking the seeds prior to use, it made it more mucilaginous and helped that way. (Probably healthier soaked too because it would start the enzymatic process of sprouting, just a guess.)

    Other idea, maybe take Vitamin C to bowel tolerance? as it could help you overall, possibily, with other things.

    all the best,

  17. kb101

    kb101 New Member

    The big problem with constipation is that the fecal matter is not moving fast enough and so as it sits, the intestines suck out all the moisture which then can create a blockage or impaction.
    I've had to have surgery for this.
    The answer for me, to help keep moisture in the bowels, even if they are moving slow is using Miralax. The Doctor can perscribe the generic cheaper than the otc brand. The medication also adds weight to the bowel material and it helps to slide the waste out of the body.
    I take the med 2x a day most of the time. Every once in a while it does too good of a job and then I have to cut back to one dose a day.
    Miralax comes in a powder so it can be added to a beverage or soft food.
  18. LuvQuilting

    LuvQuilting New Member

    I've had this problem for years and I believe for me it's hormone related. I took senna daily for years and then all of a sudden it got to be too much. I stopped and was very normal for about two years. Then all of a sudden again it came back about two years ago (at 50 I'm approaching menopause). I tried everything with my diet first and nothing was predictable. I tried Miralax but it was a bit too harsh and that was after trying the Zelnorm which was so painful for me. I finally resorted back to senna (perdium) and now alternate days between that and then stool softners so I'm only taking it every other day. It's working pretty well for now and I'm curious if things will even out once I'm through menopause. It's such a hard problem to remedy, I feel for you.
  19. Gingareeree

    Gingareeree New Member

    I use a product (won't mention name of Co.) called "Super Seed",it contains chia seed,flax,amarenth sprouts,quinoa sprouts,whole bunch of other types of sprouts,probiotics. It tastes good,natural cinnamon,stevia. One scoopful per day for me in the a.m. I also take two Triphala capsules 2x day. ~~~Jeanne
  20. marw

    marw New Member

    I have had this problem since I had hemorrhoid surgery some 20 years ago. I think perhaps some nerves were damaged in the rectum, maybe lazered out.

    This will work, but you may not like to do it unless you can tolerate the taste of prune juice.

    It is important that this be done on an empty stomach. Once a week (twice if needed, but not more than that), drink an 8 oz. glass of prunce juice when awaking followed by a glass of water. You may also have coffee or tea as long as you do not put anything in it--absolutely no cream or sugar. The action works like this: The prune juice will bypass your stomach if it is empty and nothing happens to start the digestive juices there, and continue into your intestinal tract. From there it starts cleaning, and will clean your entire system. If you get diarrhea (although some is natural at the very end of the cleansing), cut back the dosage, if it does not seem to work, increase the amount, but do not go over 2 glasses. At any time if something comes up that you need to leave your house (and nearness to your bathroom) you can just eat and the action will stop. Good luck.-- Marw

    I do a complete cleansing once a week and have for years. It really helps the way I feel. Often I actually start having a movement once a day for a while after the cleansing, but I still do the cleansing once a week anyway.

    CANSADO Member

    I have had this problem for about a year. I did a Genova Metabolic Analysis Profile urine test, which showed elevated DHPPA. I did a 10 day course of Flagyl and a few days into that, bowel function came back. I am not back to normal, however, and I believe that there are other factors involved such as problems with neurotransmitters, hormones, etc. Some of the autism specialists use Flagyl with their patients, but a 10 course is sometimes not enough to keep the DHPPA level down. Supposedly, DHPPA can become elevated as a result of problems with Pseudomonas and/or clostridia. I also think I might have a problem with dairy. It seems like a pizza can stop me up for a few days.

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