Dentalwork Amalgam Fillings

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by paulmack, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Hi guys,wanted to ask your advice about Amalgam fillings.
    To be honest I don't know very much about mercury poisoning & metal-fillings & how they can affect Fibro/CFS sufferers but I know in some quarters it is thought they can have an impact on Fibro/CFS.
    Well,I currently have 4 amalgam fillings & don't have any real bother with my teeth,but after a visit to my dentist today he says I need to get one of these replaced.
    He says that through the NHS(the UK National Health Service) he can replace the filling with a standard amalgam for free or replace the filling with a white filling for £40(approx 80US$),thus leaving me with 3 amalgam fillings.

    The cost isn't an issue but I don't know either way if these fillings have any bearing on my Fibro symptoms.
    What I wanted to ask is?
    Are these white fillings as durable as the amalgams or do they require more maintenance/replacing than the standard amalgams.
    I'm due to go back next Thursday for the replacement filling & I'm undecided what to opt for.
    Any advice would be most appreciated as I was thinking if I was ever to get all my metal fillings replaced this would be an appropriate place to start.
    Thanks,Paul.
  2. JoFMS

    JoFMS New Member

    I chose to have some of my amalgam fillings removed last year. I had a total of about 5 removed and still have about another 6 in.

    A word of warning - when you have the amalgam taken out - they absolutely MUST use a rubber dam, don't let them take it out without using one. I aske dmy dentist to remove mine with a ruber dam and he didn't have one but told me he can take them out without one - BIG MISTAKE.

    The next day after having had 2 more amalgam fillings removed - I completely crashed and had mercury poisoning. I was so weak, headaches, started to cry at everything all day. My doc said I had mercury poisoning and I've been very fatigued ever since. They have to drill them and the silver fillings go everywhere, even breathing in the fumes is bad and swallowing particles is bad too.

    I do believe that it's better having amalgams replaced with white fillings just make sure they do it correctly no matter what or you could suffer for years. I will have the rest of mine replaced when I go to another dentist who uses a rubber dam and when I feel a little better.

    Hope it all goes well
  3. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Thanks for the advice re the rubber dam.
    Sorry to hear about your experience with that dentist,just hope it's not as bad next time.
    I'm just glad it's only one filling I'm getting replaced at the moment,shouldn't be too bad,he hopes,LOL.
    Thanks again for the advice.
    Paul.
  4. springrose22

    springrose22 New Member

    When you have your amalgams removed you should have a dam in your mouth, supplemental oxygen, suction, and special ventilation provided so that the vapors from the amalgam will be removed without danger to you or the dentist/assistant. I am just in the process of having mine removed by what is referred to as a biological dentist, which basically means one who is aware of the dangers of amalgam in the first place, and then who has training in how to removed with the least possible danger to all concerned.

    Amalgams are a health hazard, and you can find a lot of information online by just searching dental amalgam poisoning. Tons of info. You will generally find, however, that most dentists and governments belittle the idea that amalgams cause health problems, because they are afraid of getting sued. Marie
  5. Pianowoman

    Pianowoman New Member

    Paul, I agree with springrose22 about the method. It should be someone who has experience doing this. It's also best if you can get some IV vitamin C soon after but in any case, start taking Chlorella or a good chelator.
    As to whether they are as durable, no they are not. There is a greater chance of breakage with the white fillings. If you have them done well, however, they should last quite a while. I also chose to have mine removed and I had a mouthful!! Mine are certainly fine 2 years later and I am improving.
    This is not a fix on it's own but it's one more layer of problems gone. Mercury is a potent neurotoxin and can add to our problems in a big way.
    Good luck
    Kathy
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  6. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Thank you both for your advice.
    Marie,I would agree that Dentists & Govts will insist that amalgam fillings are safe due to the obvious consequences.
    Kathy,thamks for your comments about durability & yep,it's probably just one layer of our overall problems.
    Thanks again,you've both gave me something to think about.
  7. spartanjt

    spartanjt New Member

    I had amalgams removed from 13 molars about 6 years ago & the dentist used something called the Cleanup Aspirating system by Bioprobe, instead of a rubber dam. It is actually a small vacuum device that fits directly over the tooth while drilling out the amalgam & is much more efficient than a rubber dam.

    Dentist also used a full room ionizer, oxygen & chlorella rinses while doing the removals.
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  8. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Thanks for your comments,I'll ask my dentist next week what method he uses in replacing fillings.
    I have had fillings replaced before but thought nothing of it until I joined this site & realised that quite a lot of you were removing metal fillings as it no doubt could be a factor in our conditions/symptoms.
  9. spartanjt

    spartanjt New Member

    The thing to remember is that the amalgam removals & replacements are really only step one in the process of getting the metals out of your body.

    Esp if you have a large number of metal fillings, you will need to chelate & detoxify after the amalgam removals to slowly pull out the metals that have accumulated in the various body organs & the brain over the years.
  10. deb_46

    deb_46 New Member

    I opted to have my 10 amalgams replaced with composites about 1.5 years ago. I had to use my regular dentist as a bio would have been around $7,000 and just could not afford it. I was working with a very up to date medical institute for my chelating and they told me to have all 10 removed at one time then I got in the car drove 3hrs to them and they hooked me up to a high powered DMPS IV to start pulling the mercury. I did about 4 more after that at two week intervals and retested and my mercury levels were normal after being very high previously.

    Did it solve all my problems, no, but I have thyroid/adrenal issues that I'm still working on but I do feel it greatly helped me get the candida under control so for that I am thankful I did it.

    I had to replace a crown a couple of months ago and paid more to get the one that is solid porcelain with no metal as I never want anymore metal in my mouth.

    I agree with previous posters, at the least request a dam, I wasn't as strict with that as I knew I was immediately starting the chelation process.

    Good luck on whatever you decide.

    Deb
  11. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Spartanjt,thanks for your further advice about chelation & detox.
    Deb,thanks also for your comments re amalgams.I also believe I have adrenal issues & currently I'm awaiting an adrenal test.
  12. Michelle_NZ

    Michelle_NZ New Member

    check out this link, it outlines the protocol that shoudl be used. Make sure your dentist is fully aware of the risks.

    http://www.members.aol.com/lynrennick2000/Page8.html

    Good info from lots of others here already.

    Take care
    Michelle
  13. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Looks like there's some excellent info on that site.Thanks for the link.
    Paul.
  14. Waynesrhythm

    Waynesrhythm Member

    Hi Paul,

    I’ve had some pretty extensive experience thinking about and addressing my dental issues. I’ll restrict this post however to some comments about the amalgam issue.

    Though many people are aware of the mercury toxicity involved, another factor is the electrical currents that can take place in a mouth that has metals and create a problem with brain function. I came to believe (and still do) that I was being very adversely affected by both of these. Besides that, I also felt I had a general intolerance to metal.

    In the process of having approx. 9-10 amalgams removed, I was quite surprised to learn that all but one or two had decay (cavities) underneath them. If I would not have had this decay cleaned out, it would very likely have meant very expensive crowns or root canals in the future. So having old amalgams replaced for health reasons can also mean a wise financial decision.

    To sum, I can’t tell you how happy I am to have all of the metal (including my crowns) removed from my mouth. It feels like it has allowed my mouth, head and whole body to become “unclenched”. I would encourage anybody seriously considering this to follow through with their research and decide what would be best for themselves. If you do decide to go forward, as others have cautioned, take the time to find a dentist who can do it properly.

    Regards, Wayne
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  15. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Thanks for your comments Wayne,it is appreciated.I reckon I'm gonna have to do a lot of research on the metal toxicity thing as I really don't know enough about it.In fact I only really became aware of it & the problems it can cause when I joined this site.
    Glad to hear you're much happier now your mouth is metal free.
    Thanks again,Paul.
  16. monalisa3

    monalisa3 New Member

    I too am getting my 5 amalgams removed soon. I have been studying and researching this issue for a few months now. I've learned a great deal about this and have spoken to about 4 dentists. My dentist said he could do the removal using only a rubber dam. I wasn't happy with that so I found a holistic dentist who specialises in amalgam removal. It was difficult as there are only a handful of them in Sydney, Australia, where I live. Anyways, uses the rubber dam, oxygen in the nose, high speed suction and room ventilation. I'm also going to get the Vit C IV hooked up on the same day.

    Good luck and be very careful with the removal. Amalgam replacement can be very dangerous if not done safely as you are exposing yourself to extra mercury vapour. If your dentist doesn't use all those safety precautions, it's better to leave your amalgams where they are. Or find yourself a good holistic dentist.

    I've also bought the Hal Huggins book "It's all in your head". It's a great read.

    I met someone on this forum who removed her amalgams and detoxed (under the Huggins protocal) and her fibromyalgia symptoms were alleviated.

    Cheers
  17. paulmack

    paulmack New Member

    Thanks for the info & advice.At the moment I'm only getting one of my amalgams replaced,but it got me thinking about getting all of them replaced.
    There is one dentist in Glasgow City Centre who specialises in Amalgam replacements but of course he's very expensive.
    If I decided to get them all replaced I would probably go to him but I'll have to save first & research it a bit more.
    Michelle_nz posted a link on the Huggins protocol a few days ago but I've still to rerearch it thoroughly.
    Good luck with your replacements,hope all goes well & you get some respite from your Fibro symptoms.
    Thanks again,Paul.
  18. monalisa3

    monalisa3 New Member

    Hi Paul, thanks for your good wishes. Luckily, amalgam replacement is not frightfully expensive in Australia. The cost is very reasonable here (or so it seems compared to US costs). I truly am starting to think amalgam replacement is the first step towrds any hope of recovery but certainly it is not the cure all. It is the first necessary step (the first brick in the wall), healing my gut dysbiosis and candida issues is the next step and dealing with all my vitamin/mineral deficiencies. Seems Nutrition will play a big role. Hopefully everything will start to fall into place after that. It has to, I am so sick and can't function this way for much longer. So depressed and suicidal at times.

    Good luck to you and remember to take all necessary precautions with amalgam removal or it could be detrimental.
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