Deprssion or CFS?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by remarkb, Feb 27, 2006.

  1. remarkb

    remarkb New Member

    After 2 yrs of symptoms..getting worse and now nearly bed ridden and worried about loosing my job. I went to a friend of my who is a doc to get advice. He told me I have severe depression. He prescribed Effexor xr. I have been on that for 2 weeks now. But still have major aches and flu like symptoms. I have a low grade fever every night. So, I went to another doc who say no to depression and yes to CFS. If I do have CFS, I dont know what I am going to do. I have a family to support and I am going down hill both in body and mind... more or less at the end of my rope. I have been tested for just about everything, so I assume one of them must be correct. I am still able to make it to work, but by noon I am so sick I can do nothing. My family is suffering and I fear nothing is going to help. It is like some made up sickness to everyone I talk to, so they dont have much pitty. I feel as though I would be better off dead...but WILL NOT go that far. It has been too long for me and I dont know what to do next. Could I just be depressed...does that cause low grade fever..99.5-100? My last doc says the fact that I want to do things, but just dont have the energy suggests that I am not depressed alone, but depressed because I am sick and not getting better.... well MAKE ME BETTER...lol Also does anyone have flushing of the face and ears...like they turn beat red? Okay I am rambling... BK
  2. elsa

    elsa New Member

    I am sorry you are having such a hard time. Most of us do from one time or another. I'm also sorry you are struggling with your diagnosis. I have a question though ... Why would you want it to be depression? So many battle that for their entire lives as well. Is it for the acceptance of others?

    You could have both ... But CFS IS NOT depression ... it is a diservice to patients when doctors dismiss this international illness as a mind disorder.

    Many do have both like I mentioned. Depression is secondary to the chronic incurable illness ... both are treatable though.

    Please hang in there ... It really is an illness that has room for improvement. You can put my name in the search if you'd like. I have written alot about what treatments I have done and what helped me to reach remission.

    I'll be thinking positive thoughts for you. Hang in there ... right now just focus on one step at a time.

    Take care,

    Elsa
  3. OptimusUndead

    OptimusUndead Member

    If you ask me, after having CFS and Fibro since i was 15, DR.'s are going out of their mind to think that depression could cause this many symptoms. Which i think is totally impossible. It can do allot to you, but not to the extent of CFS or Fibro, and most Dr.'s dont understand that. Its one thing to disturb your body by being depressed all the time, but feeling like you have the flue 24/7 isn't something being sad does to you.

    Hang in there, this board is very supportive. Dont let people convince you that your depressed when your not.

    Do you think your depressed?..

    In CFS/Fibro.. its a symptom not a cause
  4. alaska3355

    alaska3355 New Member

    your thyroid and adrenals? Sometimes even normal results are not right and could be treated. Do you have access to an FFC? I don't know if you have heard of those, but type in the upper search bar and you'll find loads of info.

    About the depression, why wouldn't you be depressed because of your losses? Anyone would...so try to find out as much as you can, and be your own best advocate. Write back whenever you have questions...the people here are great! p.s. I believe a low grade fever can be indicative of hypothyroidism...check that out. Terri
  5. Rosiebud

    Rosiebud New Member

    depression can occur because the person is SO ill and because there's not much help or recognition out there, like Elsa says, depression is secondary, it's a symptom not a cause of CFS.

    Your doctor should carry out tests to eliminate other things if he hasnt already done so.

    You will find lots of information and support here and with CFS and/or Fibro , Self Help is the way to go. Find out all you can, take supplements, rest when you can and try to pace yourself, not easy when you have to work.

    Whether you're physically well or not, your family still needs you.

    love
    Rosie
  6. xchocoholic

    xchocoholic New Member

    BK,

    Your second doctor is correct. Whoever heard of running a fever and having flu like symptoms from depression. I still get this from time to time from some doctors.

    Do you have long term disability insurance, so you can take off work ?

    Good luck to you ... Marcia


  7. alaska3355

    alaska3355 New Member

  8. spiritsky

    spiritsky Member

    I also have CFS. I went through the same thing at one time. Is this a depression that is causing fatigue or is this fatigue that gets so bad that it also makes me depressed. It's one of the problems docotor's have in determing what the diagnosis is going to be. For me, I did all the tests, everthing looked fine but I was getting more and more tired and depressed as a result. So, again, which one is it.

    The main way you can tell with CFS is this: When you exert yourself physically, does it take a long time to recover (1 to 3 days?). If you were just depressed then you might not want to do physical things but they wouldn't put you in bed for 3 days after doing them - and you would probably, with depression, feel better after doing some exercise. With CFS, doing excercise or anything physical or stressful (just working 8 hours) will knock you down flat.

    Also, the fact that you mention you get frequent fevers, is another symtom of CFS. I was always getting sore throats, every week at least once. If were suffering from depression only, you probably wouldn't be getting fevers and frequent colds...



  9. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Someone recently posted a very good question to determine if you are depressed or have CFIDS (or other illness).

    If you are depressed and asked what you want to do, the answer will be nothing.

    If you have CFIDS or FM, you will have a page full of things you would like to do, if you were only able to do them.

    Someone else said it well, too, above, which I have long known: if you are just depressed, you may not feel like exercising, but you have the physical ability to do so and it will probably make you feel better.

    If you have CFIDS, you may want to exercise with all your heart (as I do) but don't have hte physical capacity to do so, or if you try to exercise, it will make you feel worse.

    Follow your gut, not your doctors - so many of them are ill-informed.

    I think there is hope for you, but you are going to have to take charge of your recovery. Read everything you can get your hands. Read Dr. Teitelbaum's book "From Fatigued to Fantastic". Have your adrenals and thyroid checked. Go see a naturopath. There are so many alternatives. I was helped a lot by a chiropractor who does muscle testing. I had several digestive problems which doctors couldn't diagnose or help with the chiropractor was amazing and helped me without drugs. He diagnosed my weak adrenals. If I had relied solely on my regular doctor, I think I would be bed-ridden now too, and probably on anti-depressants as well, which I cannot tolerate.

    Take care --

    Mary
  10. CinCA

    CinCA New Member

    When I really knew it wasn't "all in my head", as several health care practitioners were suggestion, was exactly what previous posters said. Exercise used to make me feel so much better/burn off stress if I was having a down day. But then, as much as I so needed it to de-stress, I would feel so awful, like I was "bonk-ing" big-time, after just a short, light workout. And it was all I could do to accomplish the most basic necessities (i.e. take my kid to school and back) the next few days.

    Even now, while I do feel like I am "recovering", I've had a bad spell since last week where I just don't want to do much of anything but sit on the computer and peruse this board, and maybe lie on the couch for a bit. Even going up and down the stairs gets me tired, and last week, when I did go to the gym, it didn't make me feel better at all, although the week before I was pounding hard exercising and feeling great. Guess I'm not out of the woods yet....

    BTW, I was dx'd with CFS last summer after having symptoms for literally several years prior. And yes, I had countless doctors tell me it was all in my head, and here, try the newest anti-depressant because as a stay-at-home mom I MUST be totally bored, isolated, and depressed. Yes, I was isolated because the slightest thing made me exhausted, but I finally found out my toxin count was sky-high and my adrenals bottomed out...there was a lot more going on with me than depression. Also, my mood has always been okay...this has felt much more "physical" to me.

    I do hope you get answers. And this is a great site to get support. Good luck!
    C.
  11. remarkb

    remarkb New Member

    I agree with what you all are saying. I do want to do things and I think about those things a lot. The only time I am not thinking of the things I would like to be doing is when I am really hurting and sick...like the really bad times. I guess I was hoping it was depression because antidepresion drugs might do a great deal to get me back to normal. From what I can tell from endless research on the net is that there is not much luck in treating CFS...there is not a pill...

    I felt better today after a good 9 hour sleep night. I always feel somewhat normal in the morning, but by noon it is all I can do to make it through the day.

    I have made a decision that I am going to beat this somehow. I believe it will be through diet, rest, and maybe some other things I can learn from you all.

    I am a father of a wonderful son and my ex ran off a couple of yrs ago, so I have to make it somehow for him. I have a great home and family and a good job. I have a lot to be thankful for. I hope I can learn to manage this, as it is bringing me down regardless of if I have depression or not.

    Again, thanks to all of you and I will be reading and responding as much as I can.

    Oh ... I also live in the KATRINA zone so that does not help...lol.

    Brian
  12. mars_xmu

    mars_xmu New Member

    I made a full recovery from CFS, I saw a very good specialist in the UK, she ran stool test and found out that nearly all my symptoms were caused by Klebsiella and Candida. You need to get the right tests done for your condition, and treat it with natural suppliments. If possible try and do as much research as possible, and doubt waht you hear form MD, if they have not specialised in CFS for a number of years: see this site for some good info on protocols used by CFS MDs. I forgot to mention that a lot of the parasites/viruses will cause flu like symptoms, stiff neck, blocked sinuses, etc. If you want to get better you will.