doctors too afraid of addiction to prescribe what you need

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Aeryn, Jul 29, 2003.

  1. Aeryn

    Aeryn New Member

    This is interesting. I go to a holistic doc because I want to go without meds. We do the herb route, it is useless for me. I end up taking huge amounts of herbs and I cannot sleep.

    So, she decides to prescribe me ambien. I come back still exhausted because the Ambien does keep me asleep but does not help me get refreshing sleep.

    So, she decides to prescribe me trazodone. The trazodone helps me get refreshed sleep but doesn't keep me asleep.

    I write in here and get advice on mixing the two (it is the weekend and cannot ask the doc), I do and get two good nights of sleep. I feel okay. Not great but okay. I figure a few more nights of this sleeping business and I'll be on the road to feeling good.

    I call her with the good news and she refuses to write me a prescription for more trazodone (I'm out, but luckily already got my ambien filled or maybe she would have pulled that too?!). I cannot speak to her directly only through nurses, she is busy.

    The nurse explains that the doc thinks I am going to get addicted by combining the two. I realize, then, that when I first called I was so relieved that I had slept I must have sounded a little "too" excited, "too" needy.

    She has, thankfully, referred me to a sleep specialist. But I won't be able to see this person for two weeks or more (I am waiting for the scheduling).

    Ultimately, I'd like to go without sleeping pills. I don't even take antibiotics, I hate pills. I just made the mistake of being too frellin' happy about getting some sleep. I'll remember to be morose in the future so the idiots don't think that getting well is a sign of addiction.

    Let's put it this way, I won't be seeing her again. On the look-out for a new doctor. I only saw her twice and took the pills for two days and she felt she had grounds to judge the possiblity of addiction.

    I think what is really something, and I know you all have experienced this, that as soon as you are suspected of addiction there is no way to defend yourself.

    I know addiction is a real possibility for some, and there is good reason to worry, but shouldn't they use their judgment in these matters!?

    Frankly, I'd prefer to go without the drugs. Maybe the sleep specialist will be able to help on this count.

    Aeryn

  2. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    I just posted about seeing a pain specialist for relief for pain. Same goes for seeing a sleep specialist for getting good sleep. If one has a good specialist in our illnesses like I do, it is possible to get everything you need in one place.

    Most docs are just too afraid of addiction to be effective for us.

    Love, Mikie
  3. jadibeler

    jadibeler New Member

    The doctors' attitude toward this has aggrevated me for years. I was turned down for valium years ago when I begged for a Rx because my alcoholic husband was coming home after working away and I knew I was going to need something to keep me calm. I would never take enough of it to become addicted because they are pure gold and I horded them, if anything.

    Now, the case with the pain medication and the antidepressants, my question is this: if a person is going to need to take something for the rest of their life, what does it matter if they become addicted? They need it to live sanely, not because they are addicted to it!

    I think the doctors are just covering their own a**'s, afraid of being charged with providing narcotics too freely. Many doctors have lost their licenses for doing so. But they were handing them out like candy to just anyone. There's a big difference.

    And it's not just the doctors who won't write Rx's for, say, both Ambien and Trazedone - your insurance company will refuse to pay for one of them or your pharmacist will refuse to fill both of them. That just happened to a friend of mine - and the pharmacist kept the "extra" written Rx's, wouldn't give it back! We are seen as "drug seekers".

    As for getting a good, restful sleep, try taking magnesium, with food, just before bed. Worked for me.

    JoAnn
  4. Aeryn

    Aeryn New Member

    Thanks for all the replies, I guess that makes sense but this was a hypnotic and an anti-depressant. I'll just wait til I see the sleep specialist. He or she will be able to prescribe what I need, and, what I am really hoping for, KNOW what I need.

    Thanks all! A
  5. rlnia

    rlnia New Member

    I also am an RN, but, I do know that each Dr. has his own philosophy on pain. I've seen Dr.'s do things to pt.'s without any pain meds. and I was shocked. Others, would give plenty, and more if needed. If you are not happy with your Dr. fire him/her until you find one that will listen, and help you with your needs. Ambien will give you 3-4 hours of good sleep, but, it does build up fast in your body and then won't work. I would only take 1 at bedtime for a week and then not again for 3 weeks or so. I use to work long hours with having to do over-time, and sometimes many of us nurses would get Ambien, at times just to get a few hours of sleep. I do get the same thing from Dr.'s and it is so frustrating. And at times, I've had Dr.'s that would give me anything for the asking. I do not like taking meds either, and my pharmacy bill is so expensive every month, but, I do believe when we need things, for short periods, we should get them, for sleep, pain, etc. I would say everything in monderation. Tylenol PM, has even worked for me, and Aleve for pain at times, but, too much of any drug is not good for us.
  6. Aeryn

    Aeryn New Member

    ZMA was wonderful but gave me the runs. Had a lot of energy and slept well but spent the whole day on the toilet. Nothing has worked so far to mitigate the effect including building myself from tiny doses of mags easier on the gut to eating a bunch of bananas every day. It is a shame really.

    Valerian and other herbs don't work, tried them with the holistic doc.

    Kava worked wonders but now I am afraid to take it since of the liver failure risk. There is no clear reason connecting the 11 people who had liver failure on it, so I don't think it is worth the risk.

    I'm just looking forward to seeing the sleep specialist and seeing if I can get some help there and get a good referral to a decent doctor.

    My husband, who has to take controlled substances for his mental illness, says my mistake was sounding excited about the relief I got. He said always keep a cool rational voice when discussing your meds or doctors will suspect addiction.

    These drugs she rxed can only cause psych. dependency not addiction, in any case. But she may have felt that she wouldn't know how to handle a case of addiction.

    Frankly, for a holistic I think I knew more than she did about herbs as well. I told her stuff she didn't know. She also had the idiotic attitude, that no MD should have, that all herbs are safe and all RX's are risky. A bit simplistic. I felt like not seeing her again after the first appt. since I doubted her abilities. So trust your instincts, eh!?

    Thanks for the posts, it helps a lot to know people are out there who listen to you and have advice and a kind word when you are feeling a bit bullied.

    Aeryn