Does anyone know the way to whey?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Musica, Jan 3, 2006.

  1. Musica

    Musica New Member


    Seriously, I have been to two health food stores, and the kids there (teenagers or in their 20's) don't seem to know what whey is. Apparently, they only sell those huge tubs of whey protein drink mix. I don't want to consume excess calories in the shake!

    Is there a major health food chain where you have found regular whey? Does it come in a package like flax does?
  2. elliespad

    elliespad Member

    what you want is UNdenatured whey. I took the following from the ImmuneProRx profile. There may very well be other UNdenatured whey products that are comparable, but this is the brand my doctor recommended to me.

    Immune Pro Rx
    The Finest Biologically Active Whey Protein

    Related products: ImmunePro Rx

    ImmunePro Rx Whey Protein Concentrate is unique. It is a Primary-Product of Fresh Milk. It is not a by-product. It is the result of years of work to perfect a system that produces only the highest quality milk whey protein. There is no cheese produced in any part of our production. There is no chemical modification or pH regulation in the milk or whey. The full range of the original proteins is intact and undenatured. The result is a superior product that contains exceptional amounts of the most important protein fractions. Additionally the vital proteins bound fats that whey protein isolates remove are still intact.

    Traditionally, even the most expensive dietary whey products available are the by-products of cheese production with definite limitations in preserving the complete biological activity of the whey proteins. The milk goes through a heating process (approx. 163° F), chemical modification and pH regulation to produce cheese. Each of these steps denatures (damages) the whey proteins. The denatured proteins are then filtered out and what remains is a narrow range of undenatured proteins that have survived the processing. From this point on there is little heat added and some of these whey protein isolates are then referred to as cold process.

    Undenatured Protein is Essential for a Vital Immune System

    * The Importance of Cysteine vs. Cystine

    Biologically active whey protein that contains naturally occurring Cysteine is the optimal component for the intracellular production of Glutathione (GSH). Cysteine is very scarce in our modern diet and therefore Glutathione production is limited and deficiency is prevalent. If Cysteine undergoes any heating or processing, as all conventional dairy and dairy by-products do, it is denatured and converted to Cystine. Cystine is the form that is found in all of the medical food whey proteins, as they are all by-products. ImmunePro Rx is the exception as it contains only naturally occurring Cysteine.
    An important note on the synthesized free form amino acid L-Cysteine, it can have adverse effects in supplemental doses with sensitive individuals or those who have any toxic heavy metal accumulation.

    The Journal of the American College of Nutrition Volume 5, 1986, published a paper by Anderson and Meister titled "Intracellular Delivery of Cysteine and Glutathione Delivery Systems." It concluded that when subjects were fed naturally occurring Cysteine, it gave them significantly more production of Glutathione than when fed Cystine.

    Regarding Whey Protein Concentrate: The journal Immunology 61: 503-508, 1987 reports, The bioactivity occurs through the ability of the protein concentrate to help replenish Glutathione levels via continuous dietary provision of Glutathione precursors, especially Cysteine, during lymphocyte proliferation, thus supporting an optimal immune response. This process seems to not only increase intercellular levels of Glutathione and precursors at the time of ingestion, but also builds up stores of these substances within the cells which lasts for a substantial post-ingestion time interval."

    ImmunePro Rx is the only True Undenatured Biologically Active Whey Protein. It is a Primary-Product and contains the full range of naturally occurring protein fractions. It contains the highest levels of Lactoferrin, Immunoglobulins, and Serum Albumin. Laboratory verified* as many times higher than the leading whey protein products. These three protein fractions contain exceptional amounts of Cysteine and Glutamine, the precursors required for the production of intracellular Glutathione.

    ImmunePro Rx contains the following protein fractions:

    Lactoferrin, an iron-binding, iron-modulating protein that enhances iron absorption when needed, also
    anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory properties.
    340 milligrams* per 10 grams.

    Immunoglobulins, with numerous immune system benefits.
    1.6 grams* per 10 grams.

    Bovine Serum Albumin, along with Lactoferrin and IgGs contain generous amounts of Cysteine and Glutamine, precursors in Glutathione (GSH) production.

    Active Peptides (specialized paired amino acids), exhibit a beneficial information transfer factor effect on
    the immune system as well as boosting intracellular Glutathione.

    Growth Factors (growth promoting protein fractions) are contained within the protein bound fats. Their
    function is to: Regenerate all aged or injured cells in the body. Build and retain muscle. Burn fat for fuel.
    Repair DNA and RNA. Fight infections. Help regulate blood sugar and brain chemicals.
    * ImmunePro Rx- is far more potent than any whey product available.
    * As determined by an independent laboratory using the SDS PAGE Gel method.

    The complete biologically active proteins in ImmunePro Rx play a major role in the following: Repair of RNA and DNA, antioxidant production (Glutathione precursors), complete amino acid supplementation, protection against ionizing radiation, improvement in liver, lung function and red blood cell production, support in chemotherapy treatment, safe binding and detoxification of heavy metals, wound healing, growth of new muscle, and the support of numerous immune functions.

    After many years of development ImmunePro Rx was introduced to the professional market in January of 2000. It is recognition in the US and now Europe as the most effective immune boosting / modulating dietary supplement for the cost. Most notably ImmunePro Rx has helped the populations that have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), Fibromyalgia, Hepatitis, Cancer, HIV/AIDS, Respiratory disease, cognitive disorder from nutritional compromise and for any sports performance improvement.

    Dr. Paul Cheney M.D., Ph.D. accepted ImmunePro Rx to be incorporated into the treatment of his patients. Dr. Cheney is a well-recognized researcher for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) and is the director of treatment at his clinic in North Carolina. He has reported finding Glutathione deficiency in all CFS patients tested since 1990 and states that it could be the major issue in this illness. He has also found that a majority of CFS patients have had significant symptom improvement with supplementation of biologically active whey protein.

    * The milk for ImmunePro Rx and all of our exclusive whey protein products is from herds that graze on disease-free, pesticide-free, chemical free, natural grass pastures and the milking cows are not subject to any chemicals, hormones, antibiotics, genetically modified organisms, hyperimmunization or injected pathogens. They do not ingest any unnatural man-made substances. There is no history of bovine disease with the milk cows or dairy. The cows have never been fed any imported food or cannibalistic by-products.
  3. Musica

    Musica New Member

    Thanks, Stormy and Ellie. Now I should have a better idea of what I'm looking for, or hopefully it would make sense to someone who really knows. I'll have to make some calls instead of just stopping in wherever I happen to be.
  4. Musica

    Musica New Member

    is it known as undenatured whey or whey protein?
  5. rockgor

    rockgor Well-Known Member

    WHEY TO GO, Gang!
  6. hubby

    hubby New Member

    I had been going to reserach for the celieac disease whihc is whey, but it is very hard to look at right now. I keep getting anemic and for no aparent reason., have had 5 pints of blood this year from loosing at what sourse. My Dr has sent me to a Hemataaologits and I will be going to a gastroenterologist as I have only half a stuomach/ Oh Lord I wouldl just feel great if I felt partically alive and being abble to plan functions and go to them./ I have stopped living baaically and that is a shame when I know that God is there for me to help me to help me help someone else. I just can't right now, and of course he has not asked me too.

    Okease throw some prayers up for me, I need them so desperately mentally and physcially.

    thanks and gentle hugs Hubby
  7. kch64

    kch64 New Member

    THanks Musica. I saw the title and had a good laugh.

  8. MaryCecelia

    MaryCecelia New Member

    I'm having the same problem with the whey, Musica. I want to try the "shake" and have everything except whey. All I can find are those huge tubs of it that are recommended for athletes. Have you found some yet??
  9. Musica

    Musica New Member

    But I haven't let my fingers do the walking yet! (Uh oh, does that date me???) I guess there is nothing that is just called whey, it is all whey protein?

    I see there are others who are seeing the "whey" of things! HAHA As a San Jose born girl, I guess the subject line came naturally!!!

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