does glucosamine chondroitin help?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by nan2dance, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. nan2dance

    nan2dance New Member

    Hello out there. This is my first post to this site. I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the info here. I'm always trying to balance between getting on with life and addressing what remaining problems I have. I don't have much luck addressing the problems. Most the things I try end up not really helping. So I tend to burn out on things like research and new supplements, etc. So I end up just trying to live life as best I can.

    I was wondering if people here have any experience with Glucosamine Chondroitin for fibromyalgic pain. I understand it is helpful for arthritic and rheumatic conditions and that it works on the cartilage. Is this appropriate for fibromyalgia? Does it help fibromyalgic symptoms? I still get plenty of flare ups, achiness, and that nasty sensation of something inside contracting. Especially at night.

    Thanks in advance for your input.

    ~nan2dance
  2. AnneTheresa

    AnneTheresa Member

    My experience with glucosomine is yes it helps. It's not a miracle cure but, in combination with other treatments, it can bring you a step toward feeling better.

    There are a lot of things that help a little bit and if you persevere and put them together (like pieces of a puzzle) you can bring about a significant improvement. Some of the things that have helped me include:

    glucosomine sulfate
    magnesium
    anti-depressants
    pain killers
    sleep aids
    physiotherapy
    TENS unit
    massage therapy
    daily walks
    stretching exercises
    heating pad
    ice packs
    hot baths/showers

    God bless,
    Anne Theresa


  3. nan2dance

    nan2dance New Member

    Hmm. I seem to have deleted my original reply...

    Thanks for the feedback! It's good to know that about the chondroitin.

    I've tried cal/mag supplements off and on over the years with no noticeable effect. Maybe because it didn't have zinc in it? Or maybe the doseage was wrong? What doseage do you take?

    Geez I hate pills! And all this second guessing is such a negative drain. I'm always doubting whether I gave something a fair shake or if I did it right. But if these things worked for you guys, I'm all ears.

    I agree with the list of other things. I do most of those things and they do seems helpful/supportive. But what is TENS unit??

    ~nan2dance
  4. lvjesus

    lvjesus Member

    I started taking it for my knees and the results were amazing. Once I ran out and delayed in buying more and noticed an increase in my pain. I posted here asking if anyone thought that it helped for pain and most said no, but I think differently.

    Just my 2 cents worth.

    Sonya
  5. nan2dance

    nan2dance New Member

    I bought a bottle of the Glucosamine only yesterday. The directions say 1 pill (1000mg) 2x/day. Does that sound about right to you guys?

    ~nan2dance
  6. dunnlb

    dunnlb New Member

    I don't have any lower back pain since I started it. It promotes growth of cartilage between joints. I have never heard that it helps muscles though. It hasn't made any difference in the my muscle pain of fibromyalgia.
  7. JLH

    JLH New Member

    My Rheumy just told me on Monday that the Glucosamine/ Chondroitin and stuff like that, as well as NSAIDs, will NOT help me with my fibro, but WOULD HELP my arthritis.

    He did give a a script for a new NSAID to try for my arthritis, and only after 3 days, I can tell it is helping with the arthritis--and he was correct--it doesn't do a thing for the fibro!

    Janet
  8. Shannonsparkles

    Shannonsparkles New Member

    I want to welcome you to the site! I'm always thrilled and pleased when a new woman joins us (and guys too - gotta love 'em!). We are very supportive here, and will help you wherever we can.

    You sound like a smart person. You've tried a lot of things, and you've persisted in getting help for yourself, through many hurdles. I have to commend you for the hard work you are doing and for your tough spirit!

    We are very happy to have you here with us. Please take a moment, if you like, to fill out your bio in your profile, so that we may get to know you a little better!
    (((hugs)) Shannon & all of us!
  9. Shannonsparkles

    Shannonsparkles New Member

    I'd like to share a few things I am doing personally for pain management, as well as some things that have helped other members of this site, and advice I have had from medical professionals. :D

    I've started working with a clilnic that specialises in treating fibro and chronic fatigue syndrome, the "Fibromyalgia and Fatigue Center", or FFC. It has a good track record for treating us. For me, they reccomended the dose of: 1200mg calcium, 700mg magnesium.

    I don't know if this is a good dose for you. I mention it to say that it is safe to go with a dose this high, if you would like to try it. Also, minerals in their chelated form are easiest to absorb, so you may want to go with chelated and notice if you get more effect with it.

    In a recent e-mail to me, Dr. Marti of the FFC reccomended the following things to me for muscle pain. Here is part of that e-mail.

    Dr. Marti writes: "Natural things to help with pain: glucosamine chondroitin sulfate, cat's claw, feverfew are among the natural anti-inflammatories known to help with pain. Did we send you a bottle of our product called Release and Renew? It contains these things and does help with pain, and is all natural."

    For myself, an anti-inflamatory that I am just starting is MSM. It is a natural product, very affordable. I will see how it goes for me. If you decide to choose cat's claw, a herb useful in arthritis as well as autoimmune conditions, please be aware that it has anti-viral properties - so if you feel fluish while taking it, you may want to back off the dose to a comfortable level; the discomfort just means that some of your viruses are dying off. If you prefer to start with feverfew, good advice is to take it three weeks on, one week off, or your body may get used to it and it will lose its effectiveness. I found feverfew effective for migranes I had as a child.

    I'll mention some pain options that our other members enjoy, which I haven't tried personally yet. Black cherry concentrate pills are one thing a lady on our site swears by. Research shows cherry concentrate is 20 times more effective than asparin in treating pain and inflamation. Relief is speedy, just like taking an asparin. :) Another member mentioned positive results using emu oil topically. Many felt better when using Traumeel. There was a decrease in pain as well as an increase in energy using our recent pall, calcium pyruvate. This form of calcium feeds the mitochondria, the energy-producing portion of our cells, and promotes weight loss while retaining lean muscle mass.

    Bottom line: There are so many options to try. Please don't be discouraged! Natural products for inflamation and pain are fairly inexpensive, and very safe, so give it a whorl and keep trying them on till you find something that fits right for you. You may also like to do some research and find out the highest safe dosage of the suppliments you are taking, and try increasing them (only one at a time!) as an experiment to see if the higher dose of one of them will help.
    ((love)) Shannon
  10. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Many of us with Fibro also have osteoarthritis. It is very difficult to know where FMS pain leaves off and OA pain takes over. G&C has really helped me with my OA.

    An old dog in our neighborhood was crippled. Now, on G&C, she is trotting along like a young dog.

    This is not an expensive supplement and well worth the price to try it. The longer one is on it, the better it works.

    Love, Mikie
  11. nan2dance

    nan2dance New Member

    That was lovely! Thanks so much. This board has been wonderful so far. So glad to be here. So much good info.

    Thanks Shannon!
    nan2dance

  12. Shannonsparkles

    Shannonsparkles New Member

    Have you found anything that helps with the pain???

    I started taking MSM, 6000mg this week for my pain, and the pain is pretty much gone now. MSM is natural, non-toxic, hypoallergenic, cheap, and impossible to overdose on, because whatever you don't use, you excrete. For serrious pain, a dose of 20,000mg - 40,000mg is used; results improve over time. 6000mg seems okay for me at present; my pain is not severe compared others.

    Hope you are doing well. Thought I would share this with you and others a a cheap & safe thing to try. :)
    ((hugs)) Shannon
    [This Message was Edited on 01/31/2006]
  13. nan2dance

    nan2dance New Member

    Thanks Shannon! I have no idea what MSM is yet. I've only just heard of it. I did ask the doc and he suggested plain glucosamine - no chondroitin, no MSM. So I'm glad to hear from you that this is indeed something to consider. Thanks for the tip! I mostly just take prescription stuff to help with the pain so I can sleep at night. Daytime stuff I can usually suffer through now (I hate pills...) But sometimes I take ibuprofen (ha!) and I regularly take borage and flax oil. It's not 100% clear to me that these oils are truly helping me. But when I have stopped taking them I do seem to get more pain. So. I've been taking the glucosamine 1000mg 2-3X/day for about 1-1/2 weeks now. Next time I buy a bottle I'll check out the MSM.

    ~nan2dance
  14. Shannonsparkles

    Shannonsparkles New Member

    :) Glad you are trying things. My eyes are really bleary tongight, hard to focus on the screen. Letus know if the glucosamine helps you. I may like to try it sometime too.
    ((( ))) Hope you are feeling a bit better.
  15. Trena

    Trena New Member

    Alot of good reccomendations were given in this post. I am going to try this. My husband started it for his arthritis and it helped him.
  16. mjgkennedy

    mjgkennedy New Member

    I have been taking Sulphur Powder now for about a month and have noticed it helps my Arthritis.

    I just put half a teaspoon of Sulphur Powder in a glass of water and drink it . I take it between meals.

    Mary
  17. Dee50

    Dee50 New Member

    Many years ago it some to help me but no it doesn't nowdays. I used to take 6 500mg a day till I felt better and than I would cut back to 2 a day . It stopped helping me after about 3 years. I took Glucosamine HCI from Melaleuca.
    Dee50