Dr. OZ on Oprah yesterday, too unrealistic?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by rfg958, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. rfg958

    rfg958 New Member

    Did some of you see Dr. Oz on Oprah yesterday. There was a short piece about a woman w/ fms.

    In my opinion:
    PROS; Oz said: Teitelbaum knows his stuff, 8 million Americans have fms/cfs, Drs. are finally believing it exists.

    CONS: Woman featured was diagnosed 7 years ago, she looked 40 at the most, took Teitelbaums supplements, walked and in a WEEK, it was implied she was "all better."

    Summary: But it was worth something. Rita
  2. MeowingMaryJane

    MeowingMaryJane New Member

    I was glad to hear the validation of fibromyalgia and cfs, but it seemed to make it sound too simple to heal and recover. I guess if you had the money to take all the supplements and a chef to cook all the proper meals for you while you are too fatigued to do it, then maybe it would be an answer.

    Mary Jane
  3. jasminetee

    jasminetee Member

    I didn't see it but that sounds like a bummer. Oprah has never been there for us though many people have written her letters begging her to put our DDs (dang diseases) on her show. She did a show about people with CFS years ago where they ended up looking like crazy malingerers from what I have heard. I don't think Oprah is our friend.

  4. kitteejo

    kitteejo Member

    I'm just sick and tired of wonder cures. I've tried some and have been cured yet. I just sit here in my chair.

    Thanks for letting me know what DD was, dee, I think???

  5. Bambi

    Bambi New Member

    compassion for people with fm/cfs. I suppose when everything you touch turns to gold and you are blessed with good health and your biggest problem is a weight issue, it's hard to relate to people who were called "crazy", "lazy" and "depressed middle aged women" for so long. I think she is very ignorant of the dis-ease for one thing and only seems to listen to those who still poo poo the whole problem. Unfortunately until some one like her or a close relative or friend gets it, they some times never "get it". Bambi
  6. texangal81

    texangal81 New Member

    This thread suddenly jogged my memory about something that happened when I was a newlywed nearly 30 years ago. I had gotten married in Ohio and moved 1200 miles to Texas. Shortly after moving I found it nearly impossible to get out of bed in the morning. I wasn't working yet, so it wasn't an overwhelming issue, but my ex would come home for lunch at 11:00 and I knew I had to be out of bed by then. There were times he would leave and I would crawl right back under the covers until he came back home.

    I had assumed over the years that I was depressed over being so far from home - plus my ex had no compassion for my adjustment issues. I even went to a doctor complaining about how I felt and he looked me in the eye and said "you are a depressed, bored, overweight housewife. Join my weightloss club and you'll be happier".

    Now I realize I have probably been battling elements of FM my entire life and never took it seriously. I just believed everyone when they told me I was lazy.
  7. Ginner

    Ginner New Member

    We should all comment to Dr Oz about fm/mecfs.
    He has a link on Oprah.com.
    I didn't see the segment.
    Oprah did mention a while back that she has thyroid issues.

  8. lsaxton65

    lsaxton65 New Member

    i have tried the "from fatigued to fantastic". it didn't work for me because it only treats the symptoms and not the cause. FM/CFS are only syndromes...they are a group of symptoms with no known cause. the show didn't portay that.i think it is just a gimmick to get you to buy the book

  9. msSusan

    msSusan Member

    I was glad to hear another discussion about fibro. but many of us have been struggling for years with no quick fixes.

    I checked out Teitelbaum's supps before and I wouldn't be able to take the supplements. I'm VERY sensitive to many GOOD QUALITY supps like thyroid/glangular, magnesium, calcium, fish oil.

    I've also tried many forms of alternative therapy's and my body is just too sensitive to handle most body work. Like acupuncture, massage, PT, cranial sacral. Energy work like Reiki did nothing for me. Relaxing but no pain relief.
  10. meowee

    meowee New Member

    I think he is all show biz. I know of NO supplements that would cure me in ONE year, let alone one week.
  11. Honora88

    Honora88 Member

    I Went the fibro and fatigue center and felt 95% better. However, I continued to work like crazy and kept crashing.With the supplements I worked part time from home and went to school.

    If I just rested and did the protocol I'm convinced I could have healed faster instead of working.

    I don't think taking supplements long term is a good idea though. At some point they made me worse with dizziness, etc.
    I felt worse on them after taking them long term because I had fake energy and thought it was a ticket to be superwoman again.
    If I had to do it again, I would have taken the supplements for only 3 months, get complete rest, excercise moderately and pace myself(staying within the cfid energy window). There were times when I was on the supplements I really thought I was cured but then I would go beyond my energy window and then get a lot worse over the long run.

    Eventually I found tong ren which much worked better than 500 dollars of fibro and fatigue center supplements.

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  12. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Is that there are different levels, or subsets, of people with FMS. The same is true of CFIDS. I believe we "have" these illnesses most of our lives but when we are young, we are able to recover from flaring incidents. If one recovers early on and learns to manage symptoms and budget energy, one can often live a relatively normal life. Some of these people may go on in later years to become sick again and not be able to recover. If one goes without diagnosis and treatment, one may just get sicker and sicker and wind up in bed. At that point, it is very, very difficult to claw one's way back to any semblence of a normal life. I know because that is my story.

    Looking back, I realize that I overcame a number of episodes early on and didn't get really sick until mid-life, after my divorce when I was working 60 hr. weeks to support myself. I wound up bedbound and on Morphine most of the time. That was seven years ago and it's taken this long to get to where I can work part time. I'm not well but I'm better than I was.

    The local hospital had a speaker on FMS. Before he spoke, the lady emcee paraded out a young physical therapist who claimed to have FMS. She was energetic and the picture of glowing good health. The poor ignorant, uneducated emcee told us this is what a person with FMS can be. The young woman with FMS made it sound like recovering was a lark. The audience of older women, some of them crippled, were very insulted.

    The silver lining is that the doc was very good and he bacame my specialist. He helped me immenesely to get to where I am today.

    It hurts our cuase for the media to portray us and our illnesses in such a glib manner. If any doc had the key to our getting well, none of us would be here.

    Love, Mikie
  13. bunnyfluff

    bunnyfluff Member

    You can get well~ haven't you seen the episode on "The Secret"???

  14. TribalBearPaw

    TribalBearPaw New Member

    The show yesterday was a rerun. After viewing his previous shows I made the mistake of purchasing the book he wrote with Dr. R (can't recall his full name, sorry) and promptly gave it away. I think that Dr. Oz is a good doctor but with limitations as he can only know so much. I think that his program(s) may work on a one to one basis but overall it is just too complicated and far too unrealistic for a lay person to follow. He is now a STAR and as such whatever he says will be taken by viewers as the truth and nothing but the whole truth.
  15. byoungusa

    byoungusa New Member

    I'm so tired of all the media stories that show 30 something professional types, or at least office types who are fit, active, have great benefit packages etc.
    I'm 47 have worked factory/tech settings all my life. Never had the luxury of flexable scheduling. For years I had to work 2 jobs, 1pt sorting freight just to get by.
    I agree there are all spectrums of severity to fm and a zillion co-conditions I have developed a few myself. Menopause has done me no favors and I have become less resiliant. I'm diabetic so diet is everything to me and I control BG very well and am not over weight. I walk a 20 minute mile everyday that I can drag myself through it 3-5 times a week if I'm not hobbled up in pain.
    The rest of us are just doing the best we can muster, my life consists of working and resting so I can work some more to pay for the meds and docs that keep me on the hampster wheel.
    To all who can no longer work, or the old war horses like me hanging on by a thread... Don't be hurt by these idiots, real life is never as glamorous or simple as the human interest or oprah or dr. oz portray.
  16. MamaDove

    MamaDove New Member

    This show also brought to light the Vitamin D debate...

    Dr. Oz mentioned the connection of Vitamin D deficiency and increase in Autoimmune disease...

    I think he hit the nail right on the head!!!

    It's a shame we are all suffering so and now more and more docs, esp. my new ones are leaning toward autoimmune as the culprit in our complex list of symptoms...

    Scares me to think this has merit more than just theory and therefore is sealing our fate as being incurable...

    Each day I am losing hope more and more...Thinking positive is becoming increasingly difficult...

  17. Banka8

    Banka8 New Member

    I guess Dr. Oz is just one of Oprah's pet people. I don't watch Oprah very much but every time I turn it on there he is with his skinny little arms and pasty face and gray hair telling everyone how to stay young and healthy. What a joke. All the tired old research he quotes then he acts like he's letting us in on some big secret.

    The advise Dr. Oz gives is nothing new. He looks terrible for his age.

    Why is he on Oprah so much? He's the new Dr. Phil.

  18. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Our lives are being portrayed in one-hour shows or sound bites in the media. It's not just our illnesses but every issue we face. Everyone puts his or her spin on the issues, shows messages out of context to prove the point, and it is played over and over in the media. People will believe downright lies if it comes from one of the talking heads or from a political ad run by candidates, or even worse, by the PAC's.

    Our world has sped up to the point of info saturation. We are bombarded constantly. When a message comes out, the people are wronged by it who are falsely portrayed. The ones who have already made up their minds to believe falsely will only have the false message reinforced. We are outraged every time our illnesses are misused in the media. Those who don't believe us or our illness just have more ammo for their opinions.

    Whether it's illnesses or political propaganda, this kind of nonsense just puts wedges between people. It seems that everyone is divided on every issue these days and I believe, it is stoked by TV and the bloggers.

    And yes, even the message of the book, "The Secret," has been so distorted as to cause people to get upset over it.

    We, of all people, just don't need the stress. There are some treatments which help us heal but nothing helps everyone. We each have to find what helps us through trial and error. This takes a long time. Heck, just getting properly diagnosed can take years.

    I take all this media mess with a grain of salt.

    Love, Mikie
  19. dc1980

    dc1980 New Member

    Maybe Dr. Oz should just walk out on stage and pick a random FM/CFS patient out of the audience and bring them up on the stage.............

    WHAM........Dr. Oz smacks them across the forehead and their are magically healed!!! lol

    Or maybe someone should smack Oprah and Dr. Oz across the forehead for not having enough sense to portray this DD accurately with people who are currently in a flare, or just living their live day to day to try and somehow get by that one day.

    Heck, Oprah should post here, fly us all to Chicago and we will tell the real truth about this DD.

  20. munch1958

    munch1958 Member

    Their shows are high on entertainment not really focused on the cutting edge of medicine. It boils down to what looks good on TV.

    As we all know, the bitter reality of what we deal with on a daily basis is "too depressing" for Oprah and TV in general. Oprah wants "happy" TV.

    Dr Oz is the "expert" who comes in with icky looking body parts from cadavers to illustrate certain points. Remember when they brought out omentums (abdominal fat) from different sized people?

    Gross... yes. But it sure made the point that the S.A.D. (standard American Diet) is Bad for you. Looking at big layers of fat made the point better than anything else he could have shown.