Since I can't seem to find a doc. who will refer me and I don't want to spend another few years searching for a jewel in the pig**** (a decent doc) to get a referral, maybe there's another way? What is it about docs not caring about neck and back pain, I guess in perticuar in women of the good'ol pre-menopause group(yeah, the hypochiondriac ones!). Just searching for options. LOL!