Eklipse or Cumanda?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by cherylsue, Dec 1, 2006.

  1. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

    Okay folks. I've researched another antibacterial, antiviral, etc. herbal extract. The FFC's call it Eklipse, Nutramedix sells it as Cumanda. Apparently, it is the same substance. FFC gives instructions to take it sublingually, Nutramedix says to take it in water.

    There had been a small clinical study in Equador. This Cumanda Bark Extract is supposedly safe. Some have used it for Lyme. Wishingonastar used it for EBV when her Valtrex stopped working.

    Anybody here, especially those FFC'ers, have any success with this? How did you use it? Sublingually or with water?

    Thanks for your input.

    CherylSue
  2. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

  3. pawprints

    pawprints New Member

    is very helpful if used correctly. Call Nutramedix directly. It is to be taken in water, plus used along with Burbur, etc to stop the herx. When I started I thought I could increase 1 drop per day. But the side effects were too bad, so I went very slowly and am still working my way up. Herbals can still cause problems if not used correctly. Check around and maybe you can find a doctor trained to use the NUtramedix products.

    Good luck.
  4. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

    I didn't herx from the water solution, but on the sublingual I felt fatigued and malaised the entire day. It took about 2 minutes to take affect.

    How much burbur do you need to take to stop the herxing?

    I don't have Lyme, but I do have viral CFS. Cumanda was kicking my butt. I didn't take any today, and I feel better for it.

    Thanks again,

    CherylSue
  5. pawprints

    pawprints New Member

    You must go very slow on the Cumanda. Even though it is herbal, it is very powerful.

    For me, some parsley or burbur by Nutramedix (about 8 drops). If you can get some pure Glutathione, put it under the tongue. Do the Glutathione 1st and then the parsley or burbur about 10 minutes later.

    And put the Cumanda in water for 1 minute and then swallow. If you are not sure, call Nutrimedix and ask them the best way to take it. Everyone is different and uses the products differently.

    Good luck. Take it slow.
  6. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

    Thanks you so much for your tips. Most importantly, did you improve on the Cumanda? Dis it help you with symptoms? Is it worthwhile to take?

    Thanks again,
    CherylSue
  7. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

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  8. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member