EVERYONE MUST READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by TeresaBnGA, Sep 6, 2002.

  1. TeresaBnGA

    TeresaBnGA New Member

    THIS WAS EMAILED TO ME FROM A NURSE FRIEND OF MINE.

    INTERESTING! Please read this!!!!
    > >
    > >In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick, she had stomach
    > >spasms, she was having a hard time getting around, to walk was a major
    > >chore.
    > >It took everything she had just to get out of bed, she was in so much
    pain.
    > >By March 2002, she had undergone biopsies, and was on 24 various
    > >prescription
    > >medications. The doctors could not figure out what was wrong with her.
    She
    > >was in so much pain, and so sick, she knew she was dying.
    > >
    > >She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest
    > >daughters name, and made sure her younger children were to be with her
    > >oldest
    > >daughter. She wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to FL
    > >(basically
    > >in a wheelchair) for March 22nd. On March 19th I called her to ask her
    how
    > >one of her tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the
    test,
    > >but they believe she had MS. I thought, oh, my....then I recalled an
    > >article
    > >a friend of mine emailed to me...and I asked her....Do you drink Diet
    pop?
    > >She told me yes, as a matter of fact she was getting ready to crack one
    > >open
    > >that moment....I told her not to open it, and stop drinking the diet
    > >pop....and I emailed her the following article. She called me within 32
    > >hours
    > >after our phone conversation and told me she stopped drinking the diet
    pop,
    > >and she can walk...she went up the stairs, and the muscle spasms went
    away.
    > >She said she didn't feel 100% but sure felt a lot better. She told me she
    > >was
    > >going to her doctors with this article and would call me back when she
    got
    > >home.
    > >
    > >She called me, and her doctor was amazed, he is going to call all of his
    MS
    > >patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweetener....In a
    > >nutshell,
    > >she was being poisoned by the aspartame in the diet soda, dying a slow
    > >death.
    > >
    > >
    > >When she got to FL March 22nd, all she had to take was one pill, and that
    > >was
    > >a pill for poisoning....she is well on her way to recovery.....and she is
    > >walking!!!!! No wheelchair!!!! This article saved her life!!!! The life
    > >saving article:
    > >
    > >If it says "SUGAR FREE," on the label, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!! I
    have
    > >spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on
    > >"ASPARTAME" marketed as 'NutraSweet', 'Equal', and 'Spoonful'. In the
    > >keynote
    > >address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001
    > >there
    > >is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus, that it was hard
    > >to
    > >understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said
    > >that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
    > >
    > >I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of
    this
    > >sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to
    > >Eformaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic
    > >acidosis. (Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants.)
    The
    > >methanol toxicity mimics among other conditions multiple sclerosis.
    People
    > >were being diagnosed with having multiple sclerosis in error. The
    multiple
    > >sclerosis is not a death sentence, where methanol toxicity is! Systemic
    > >lupus
    > >has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet
    > >Coke
    > >and Diet Pepsi drinkers. The victim usually does not know that the
    > >aspartame
    > >is the culprit. He or she continues its use, aggravating the lupus to
    such
    > >a
    > >degree that it may become life-threatening. We have seen patients with
    > >systemic lupus become asymptomatic once taken off diet sodas. In the case
    > >of
    > >those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, (when in reality, the disease is
    > >methanol toxicity), most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases
    > >where vision returned and hearing improved markedly. This also applies to
    > >cases of tinnitus.
    > >
    > >During a lecture I said "If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal,
    > >Spoonful, etc.) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms,
    shooting
    > >pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches,
    > >tinnitus, joint pain, depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech,
    blurred
    > >vision, or memory loss-you probably have ASPARTAME DISEASE!" People were
    > >jumping up during the lecture saying, "I've got some of these symptoms:
    Is
    > >it
    > >reversible?" Yes! Not drinking diet sodas and keeping an eye out for
    > >aspartame on food labels, yes!
    > >
    > >We have a very serious problem. A stranger came up to Dr. Espisto
    > >(one of my speakers) and me and said: "Could you tell me why so many
    people
    > >seem to be coming down with MS?" During a visit to a hospice, a nurse
    said
    > >that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been
    > >diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence! Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi
    > >etc.
    > >IS NOT A DIET PRODUCT! The Congressional Record states that it makes you
    > >crave carbohydrates and will make you FAT. The formaldehyde stores in the
    > >fat
    > >cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Once off these products with
    no
    > >significant increase in exercise, etc., Dr. Roberts in his lecture stated
    > >that he had patient who lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.
    > >
    > >Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that physicians
    > >would believe that they have a patient with retinopathy, when in fact the
    > >symptoms are caused by aspartame. The aspartame drives the blood sugar
    out
    > >of
    > >control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that
    > >aspartic acid and phenylalanine are neurotoxic without the other amino
    > >acids
    > >found in protein. Thus it passes the blood brain barrier and deteriorates
    > >the
    > >neurons of the brain, causing in diabetics (as well as in patients not
    > >suffering from diabetes) various kinds of brain damage, seizures,
    > >depression,
    > >manic depression, panic attacks, rage, violence. (The Aspartame in
    > >thousands
    > >of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting
    > >in
    > >the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War
    > >Syndrome.)
    > >
    > >Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects i.e. mental retardation
    > >if
    > >taken at the time of conception and early pregnancy. Children are
    > >especially
    > >at risk for neurological disorders and should NOT be given NutraSweet. I
    > >can
    > >relate different case histories of children having mal seizures and other
    > >disturbances being on NutraSweet. Unfortunately it is not always easy to
    > >convince a mother that aspartame is to blame for her child's illness.
    Only
    > >by
    > >trial and success will she be able to warn other mothers to take their
    > >children's health in their own hands.
    > >
    > >Stevia, a sweet herb, NOT A MANUFACTURED ADDITIVE, which helps in the
    > >metabolism of sugar (which would be ideal for diabetics) has now been
    > >approved as a dietary supplement by the FDA. For years the FDA has
    outlawed
    > >this sweet food because of their loyalty to MONSANTO. Books on this
    subject
    > >are available: EXCITOTOXINS: THE TASTE THAT KILLS - written by Dr.
    Russell
    > >Blayblock
    > >(Health Press
    > >1-800-643-2665) and DEFENSE AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE - written by DR
    H.
    > >J.
    > >Roberts, also a diabetic specialist. These two doctors will be posting a
    > >position paper with some case histories on the deadly effects of
    Aspartame
    > >on
    > >the Internet.
    > >
    > >According to the Conference of the American College of Physicians "we are
    > >talking about a plague of neurological diseases caused by this deadly
    > >poison." Here is the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when
    > >aspartame was included in 100 different products. Since this initial
    > >hearing,
    > >there have been two subsequent hearings, but to no avail. Nothing has
    been
    > >done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets. Now there are
    > >over 5,000 products containing this chemical, and the PATENT HAS
    > >EXPIRED!!!!!
    > >I assure you, MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame knows how deadly it is.
    > >They
    > >fund among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American
    Dietetic
    > >Association, the Conference of the American College of Physicians. This
    has
    > >been exposed in the New York Times - to no avail. These Associations
    cannot
    > >criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they
    take
    > >money from the food industry and have to endorse their products. Senator
    > >Howard Hetzenbaum wrote a bill that would have warned all infants,
    pregnant
    > >mothers and children of the dangers of aspartame. The bill would have
    also
    > >instituted independent studies on the problems existing in the population
    > >(seizures, changes in brain chemistry, changes neurological and
    behavioral;
    > >symptoms). It was killed by the powerful drug and chemical lobbies,
    letting
    > >loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting public.
    > >
    > >Please print this out or e-mail to family and friends. Here are some more
    > >links to websites. http://www.nancymarkle.com/
    > >http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/markle.shtml
    > >http://www.aspartametruth.com/ Being a woman does not make me a different
    > >kind of Christian, but being a Christian does make me a different kind of
    > >woman.
    > >
  2. TeresaBnGA

    TeresaBnGA New Member

    THIS WAS EMAILED TO ME FROM A NURSE FRIEND OF MINE.

    INTERESTING! Please read this!!!!
    > >
    > >In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick, she had stomach
    > >spasms, she was having a hard time getting around, to walk was a major
    > >chore.
    > >It took everything she had just to get out of bed, she was in so much
    pain.
    > >By March 2002, she had undergone biopsies, and was on 24 various
    > >prescription
    > >medications. The doctors could not figure out what was wrong with her.
    She
    > >was in so much pain, and so sick, she knew she was dying.
    > >
    > >She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest
    > >daughters name, and made sure her younger children were to be with her
    > >oldest
    > >daughter. She wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to FL
    > >(basically
    > >in a wheelchair) for March 22nd. On March 19th I called her to ask her
    how
    > >one of her tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the
    test,
    > >but they believe she had MS. I thought, oh, my....then I recalled an
    > >article
    > >a friend of mine emailed to me...and I asked her....Do you drink Diet
    pop?
    > >She told me yes, as a matter of fact she was getting ready to crack one
    > >open
    > >that moment....I told her not to open it, and stop drinking the diet
    > >pop....and I emailed her the following article. She called me within 32
    > >hours
    > >after our phone conversation and told me she stopped drinking the diet
    pop,
    > >and she can walk...she went up the stairs, and the muscle spasms went
    away.
    > >She said she didn't feel 100% but sure felt a lot better. She told me she
    > >was
    > >going to her doctors with this article and would call me back when she
    got
    > >home.
    > >
    > >She called me, and her doctor was amazed, he is going to call all of his
    MS
    > >patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweetener....In a
    > >nutshell,
    > >she was being poisoned by the aspartame in the diet soda, dying a slow
    > >death.
    > >
    > >
    > >When she got to FL March 22nd, all she had to take was one pill, and that
    > >was
    > >a pill for poisoning....she is well on her way to recovery.....and she is
    > >walking!!!!! No wheelchair!!!! This article saved her life!!!! The life
    > >saving article:
    > >
    > >If it says "SUGAR FREE," on the label, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!! I
    have
    > >spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on
    > >"ASPARTAME" marketed as 'NutraSweet', 'Equal', and 'Spoonful'. In the
    > >keynote
    > >address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001
    > >there
    > >is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus, that it was hard
    > >to
    > >understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said
    > >that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.
    > >
    > >I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of
    this
    > >sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to
    > >Eformaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic
    > >acidosis. (Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants.)
    The
    > >methanol toxicity mimics among other conditions multiple sclerosis.
    People
    > >were being diagnosed with having multiple sclerosis in error. The
    multiple
    > >sclerosis is not a death sentence, where methanol toxicity is! Systemic
    > >lupus
    > >has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet
    > >Coke
    > >and Diet Pepsi drinkers. The victim usually does not know that the
    > >aspartame
    > >is the culprit. He or she continues its use, aggravating the lupus to
    such
    > >a
    > >degree that it may become life-threatening. We have seen patients with
    > >systemic lupus become asymptomatic once taken off diet sodas. In the case
    > >of
    > >those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, (when in reality, the disease is
    > >methanol toxicity), most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases
    > >where vision returned and hearing improved markedly. This also applies to
    > >cases of tinnitus.
    > >
    > >During a lecture I said "If you are using ASPARTAME (NutraSweet, Equal,
    > >Spoonful, etc.) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms,
    shooting
    > >pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches,
    > >tinnitus, joint pain, depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech,
    blurred
    > >vision, or memory loss-you probably have ASPARTAME DISEASE!" People were
    > >jumping up during the lecture saying, "I've got some of these symptoms:
    Is
    > >it
    > >reversible?" Yes! Not drinking diet sodas and keeping an eye out for
    > >aspartame on food labels, yes!
    > >
    > >We have a very serious problem. A stranger came up to Dr. Espisto
    > >(one of my speakers) and me and said: "Could you tell me why so many
    people
    > >seem to be coming down with MS?" During a visit to a hospice, a nurse
    said
    > >that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been
    > >diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence! Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi
    > >etc.
    > >IS NOT A DIET PRODUCT! The Congressional Record states that it makes you
    > >crave carbohydrates and will make you FAT. The formaldehyde stores in the
    > >fat
    > >cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Once off these products with
    no
    > >significant increase in exercise, etc., Dr. Roberts in his lecture stated
    > >that he had patient who lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.
    > >
    > >Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that physicians
    > >would believe that they have a patient with retinopathy, when in fact the
    > >symptoms are caused by aspartame. The aspartame drives the blood sugar
    out
    > >of
    > >control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that
    > >aspartic acid and phenylalanine are neurotoxic without the other amino
    > >acids
    > >found in protein. Thus it passes the blood brain barrier and deteriorates
    > >the
    > >neurons of the brain, causing in diabetics (as well as in patients not
    > >suffering from diabetes) various kinds of brain damage, seizures,
    > >depression,
    > >manic depression, panic attacks, rage, violence. (The Aspartame in
    > >thousands
    > >of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting
    > >in
    > >the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War
    > >Syndrome.)
    > >
    > >Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects i.e. mental retardation
    > >if
    > >taken at the time of conception and early pregnancy. Children are
    > >especially
    > >at risk for neurological disorders and should NOT be given NutraSweet. I
    > >can
    > >relate different case histories of children having mal seizures and other
    > >disturbances being on NutraSweet. Unfortunately it is not always easy to
    > >convince a mother that aspartame is to blame for her child's illness.
    Only
    > >by
    > >trial and success will she be able to warn other mothers to take their
    > >children's health in their own hands.
    > >
    > >Stevia, a sweet herb, NOT A MANUFACTURED ADDITIVE, which helps in the
    > >metabolism of sugar (which would be ideal for diabetics) has now been
    > >approved as a dietary supplement by the FDA. For years the FDA has
    outlawed
    > >this sweet food because of their loyalty to MONSANTO. Books on this
    subject
    > >are available: EXCITOTOXINS: THE TASTE THAT KILLS - written by Dr.
    Russell
    > >Blayblock
    > >(Health Press
    > >1-800-643-2665) and DEFENSE AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE - written by DR
    H.
    > >J.
    > >Roberts, also a diabetic specialist. These two doctors will be posting a
    > >position paper with some case histories on the deadly effects of
    Aspartame
    > >on
    > >the Internet.
    > >
    > >According to the Conference of the American College of Physicians "we are
    > >talking about a plague of neurological diseases caused by this deadly
    > >poison." Here is the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when
    > >aspartame was included in 100 different products. Since this initial
    > >hearing,
    > >there have been two subsequent hearings, but to no avail. Nothing has
    been
    > >done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets. Now there are
    > >over 5,000 products containing this chemical, and the PATENT HAS
    > >EXPIRED!!!!!
    > >I assure you, MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame knows how deadly it is.
    > >They
    > >fund among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American
    Dietetic
    > >Association, the Conference of the American College of Physicians. This
    has
    > >been exposed in the New York Times - to no avail. These Associations
    cannot
    > >criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they
    take
    > >money from the food industry and have to endorse their products. Senator
    > >Howard Hetzenbaum wrote a bill that would have warned all infants,
    pregnant
    > >mothers and children of the dangers of aspartame. The bill would have
    also
    > >instituted independent studies on the problems existing in the population
    > >(seizures, changes in brain chemistry, changes neurological and
    behavioral;
    > >symptoms). It was killed by the powerful drug and chemical lobbies,
    letting
    > >loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting public.
    > >
    > >Please print this out or e-mail to family and friends. Here are some more
    > >links to websites. http://www.nancymarkle.com/
    > >http://www.ethicalinvesting.com/monsanto/markle.shtml
    > >http://www.aspartametruth.com/ Being a woman does not make me a different
    > >kind of Christian, but being a Christian does make me a different kind of
    > >woman.
    > >
  3. JaciBart

    JaciBart Member

    What was the medecine she was rx'd??

    Good for you, keep up the good work.

    Jaci
  4. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    But, not all. I have severe FMS, which was originally misdiagnosed as MS. I have never had more than just a sip of diet pop in my life, and I avoid all products with aspartame or any other artifical sweetner,and I always have. So, once again, we are all different.
    KLutzo
  5. Achy-shaky

    Achy-shaky New Member

    I used to drink diet pop years ago but have stopped for several years now only because I didn't like how it bloated me so I don't think I can blame my FMS on that - it started long after I quit drinking diet drinks. Makes me wonder if that could have caused birth defect in my son who has no fingers on one hand - no doctor could say what it was caused from. What's weird is that he is now 22 and a sugar-holic...drinks a lot of sweet drinks but hates the diet stuff.

    Does this mean that Stevia is safe to use? I haven't heard of it but would love to find a natural sweetener with low calories. I use Sweet & Low sometimes but isn't that supposed to be OK?
  6. Shirl

    Shirl New Member

    Thank you for the article. But like Klutzo said, we are all different.

    I have never in my life drank diet drinks, or anything that would have has a subsitute sugar in it. I have always been thin, so that would not have interested me.

    I have always read lables, cooked from scratch, I even eat Breyers ice cream because its all natural. When my children were home, they drank homemade ice tea, fruit juice, homemade lemonade, and we even used half and half in our coffee and tea!

    I am a firm believe that artificial sweetners are dangerous, and I agree with the better part of the article, and its a possibility that it causes a lot of destruction to our bodies, but I can't personally credit it my having Fibro, not at all.

    I have tried to educate everyone I know about these sweetners for years. In my circle of friends, I am probably the only one that has never drank, ate or cooked with artificial sweetners. Most of my friends have called me a 'health food nut' for years.

    In fact, I don't use white sugar either, I get sugar from Mexico, it is unrefined and has no chemicals in it.

    I am not even a sweets eater, so that would eliminate my getting it from other sources as well.

    The article is great, but we are all different.

    Shalom, Shirl
  7. TeresaBnGA

    TeresaBnGA New Member

    I thought it could be passed along to friends and family that do.

    Soft hugs!
    Teresa :)
  8. meandyou

    meandyou New Member

    Hi,
    I was 19 when that lovely nutrasweet can out on the market and boy did it make me sick. My period was taken away for about 6 months. I was newly diagnosed as a diabetic. I now use a little regular sugar in my baking or frutose which is a fruitsugar and it is natural. I hope everybody takes this advise about this product to heart . I know using natural sugar is the way to go or try a little regular sugar. Take care.


    meandyou
  9. herblady

    herblady New Member

    yet another reason to ban aspertame. that stuff is bad. i won''t touch and neither will my one daughter. my other daughter won't quit drinking diet drinks. if you want to lose weight, forget the diet drinks and drink water. that's what we were meant to drink. i buy a german mineral water which i find very refreshing. and i drink juices. yes, they have natural sugar in them but i can always take away the calories elsewhere if i want. cindi
  10. TeaBisqit

    TeaBisqit Member

    There is truth in that article. My uncle is a doctor and he has treated lots of people who got sick drinking diet soda. I have always wondered about the connection to aspartame and my illness. Aspartame was new on the market when I got sick. And I remember reaching for the blue packets in the restaurant where I got sick. I used to have it every single morning! I would have cream of wheat cereal and put a packet in there. Never even considered that it could be making me sick. I also remember when cystal light drink mix came out with it. My mother and I used to get sick if we drank it. Aspartame and MSG should be illegal. They should be removed from all our foods, I bet we would all feel alot better. MSG makes me incredibly ill, too. I get horrible nightmares when I eat foods with it and I don't sleep well from it. It also increases my muscle pain.

    TeaBisqit
  11. BlondeWa

    BlondeWa New Member

    <a href>http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blasp2.htm
    also FDA rebuttal of this letter/claim

    http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://caloriecontrol.org/response.html

    Unfortuately many of us getting caught up in these emails type warnings...unfortuately it is like internet terrorism.
    Many folks are succeptible to wanting to find something to blame for health 'idiosyncrasies'.

    This is a BLATANT rumor/innuendo once again, just like the needle in the ball pit or remeber the one way back when about Neiman Marcus cookie recipre, the lady supposedly got her CC charged for 250.00 (never happened)...What I personally do is ignore these when I get them, these email fwds or I go one better I check them out FIRST then I go to http://snopes.com or http://urbanlegends.com and hit "reply all" with the REAL information.

    Some very sick bored and malicious people LOVE to cause us to live in fear and panic!!! I will not live like that nor will I fuel the flames...just my humble opinion.
    I can understand why we would believe things like this BUT,,,the link sI posted above should help us understand WHY things like this happen and why we succumb to believing that they are indeed true when they are not.

    Kind Reagrds and very soft hugs to all of you!
    BW (net junkie) LOL!

    [This Message was Edited on 09/07/2002]
  12. roro

    roro New Member

    But this one is true. It is just a very well-covered-up fact. Mansanto is very rich and can afford to get away with it. I have seen a lot of evidence proving that aspartame is a neurotoxin. I personally work with someone whose sister is in a wheelchair because of it. True, not EVERYONE will get sick from it. But some people will, and are very sick from it. Since nutrasweet hit the market, brain tumors, and brain cancer rates have gone up, MS has skyrocketed, and neurological diseases in general have increased substantially.
    My opinion is, why take the chance? I do EVERYTHING in my power to keep myself and my family healthy. I use common sense, and a chemical that has only been around ten years, and some people are convinced it is a toxin, why risk it? If you dont have your health, then you cant enjoy your diet soda anyway. I would rather be safe than sorry.[This Message was Edited on 09/07/2002]
  13. BlondeWa

    BlondeWa New Member

    We can agree to disagree, but I am curious did you even read the FULL story, where is this now recovered 'patient'? :)

    I prefer to have an open mind and research using scientifically proven data...not lossely woven accusations based on emotion and hypotheticals with the subject/patient remaining unavailable. I guess we can say everything we ingest is causing some sort of ailment.

    Although we live with more chemicals nowadays than decades & centuries past we also have preventative medicines, modern miracles and the ability to live much longer healthier lives. I just don't personally buy into hype & hysteria-what may affect one does not affect another and IMHO does not warrant a frustrated wannabe scientists claims-especially when backed by irrefutable (imho) science

    but:
    anywhere you look there is a study to claim if you do not live in a bubble with purified air you are prone to maladies from the environment, water, sun & air-for crying out loud, we are becoming all consumed by our phobia's there are studies to prove this disprove that LOL!
    - I say listen to your body use common sense.

    Oh FYI I don't drink diet soda...years ago nutrasweet stuff tended to make me have slight headaches (seee, I do listen to my body) :) plus it does nothing for that sugar craving we tend to get. the signals our body gives us-within REASON lol and imho can cause us to binge when our body is needing some sugar.


    SO, that's that we all need to have BOTH sides of the story to be able to disseminate the information accurately and realistically.
    Best to all!
    [This Message was Edited on 09/07/2002]
  14. lilrascal

    lilrascal New Member

    I don't go anywhere near aspertame products, but am curious about the new sweetener Splenda. My mom swears by it and is trying to get me to use it. Anyone have any information on it?

    I'm not convinced that plain old sugar is all that bad anyway (unless of course you are a diabetic). It seems to me that God gave us the perfect sweetener by providing us with honey, so I just use it!
  15. roro

    roro New Member

    The person I knew who ended up in a wheelchair was drinking about a case of diet pop a day. I think everyone has their limit. For some its 2-3 a day, for others its 2-3 a week. But no one should think ANY chemical is safe enough to have a case a day. Just like the fumes for some cleaning products. If someone uses them once a week, they may be fine, but if someone is a cleaning person and breathes that stuff in for 40 hours a week, it could be a problem. I just think that if someone is sick with a mysterious disease, the first thing that you should do is look around and see if you are consuming anything that could be toxic.
    As for the sweetener, I am not a fanatic about it. I use stevia with FOS in my coffee in the morning, and for everything else I use a low glycemic fructose called sugar(NOT) made of lo-han fruit. If I want to use a pre-made product once in a while with sucralose, I dont freak about it. I try to stay away from aspartame, because I have symptoms of neurological damage. If I am out and forgot my sweetener, I use sweet n low. I beleive sugar causes cancer, I read "Sugar Blues" by william dufty, and I think all doctors, nurses, teachers, nutritionists, and dieticians should be required to read it. I think sugar and refined starches are the cause of most of the diseases in our society.
    [This Message was Edited on 09/07/2002]
  16. Holly_RN

    Holly_RN New Member

    Hi,
    I was checking out this Internet Website of Hoaxes and such for something entirely different, and I ran across the E-Mail you frind sent you...word for word. Read it and see what you think. Those Internet Hoaxes just make me so mad!

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blasp.htm

    With friendship,
    ~Holly_RN~
  17. SharonR

    SharonR New Member

    The letter may have been a hoax, and this is what you have to be careful of.
    BUT THE BUSINESS OF ASPARTAME AND MONSANTO IS NOT,,,THIS IS EXTREMLY CONTROVERSIAL and very DANGEROUS. Research it, and if you can't find it, let me know, I will e-mail you documentation on it. We live in a very greed driven world.
    Sometimes the perpetrator's of the hoax business are paid to do this. It acts as an immediate disclaimer.
    Caveat Lector
    Smiles
    SharonR
  18. allhart

    allhart New Member

    thanks for sharing i hope it helps some people,i have never been able to have anything with atrifical sweetners in it it makes me feel drunk as werid as that sounds and thats just a taste i cant imagine if i drank a whole diet soda i do not allow anyone in my family to use any products with artifacal sweetners,i have told drs about this and they always acted like i was nuts ,
  19. roro

    roro New Member

    That particular case in that e-mail may be a hoax, but that does not make aspartame safe. Some of the stuff I read about the controversy surrounding aspartame is really shocking. Like the guy who worked for the FDA at the time they were tryign to get aspartame approved was FIRED because he woudl NOT in good conscience approve it, so they hired someone new who didnt know any better and got it approved.
  20. SharonR

    SharonR New Member

    POISON FOR PROFIT

    CHEM/PHARM HAS NO EQUAL - WHAT A BUSINESS PLAN!

    By Ashley Simmons Hotz

    May 15, 2002 - The huge transnational companies that produce
    toxic chemicals found in pesticides, herbicides and industrial
    and household products profit not only from the sale of these
    products, but also from the symptoms and chronic illnesses that
    they can trigger.

    The vast majority of chemicals found in pesticides and other
    products, undergo little or no testing for chronic, low level
    exposures and for chronic health effects.

    The same chemical companies that produce toxic chemicals also
    produce prescription drugs, veterinary medicines, a wide array
    of medical products and imaging technologies, hold cancer
    treatment and medical device patents, and a produce a staggering
    assortment of over-the-counter palliatives.

    Families with toxin induced illnesses often spend large sums for
    drugs and medical treatment.

    This circle of profit is not conspiracy theory, but an easily
    provable fact.

    Below are chem/pharm web sites for the largest companies in the
    world. There you can see quickly and clearly that these
    companies profit from all sides of the picture.

    Aventis was launched in December 1999 through the merger of
    Hoechst AG of Germany and Rhône-Poulenc SA of France. Main Home
    Page for Aventis--go to top right and click on "Aventis
    Worldwide" to see medical, agrochemical and pharmaceutical
    categories of business.
    http://www.aventis.com/main/0,1003,EN-XX-100---,FF.html

    Aventis "crop sciences" include herbicides, fungicides,
    pesticides and genetically engineered food.
    http://www.cropscience.aventis.com/products/products.htm

    Aventis Pharma is the pharmaceutical division:
    http://www.aventis.com/main/0,1003,EN-XX-24770-37160--,FF.html

    Monsanto is owned by Pharmacia. The Pharmacia Corporation was
    created through the merger of Pharmacia Upjohn with Monsanto
    Company and its G.D. Searle unit. Pharmacia employs 59,000
    people worldwide and has research, manufacturing and
    administrative sales operations in more than 60 countries.

    Monsanto:
    http://www.monsanto.com

    Pharmacia:
    http://www.pharmacia.com/About/Index.asp

    BASF-fungicides, herbicides, pesticides:
    http://www.basf.de/en/produkte/gesundheit/pflanzen/products/
    BASF - pharmaceuticals:
    http://www.basf.de/en/produkte/gesundheit/nahrung/

    Merck is known widely as a pharmaceutical company
    http://www.merck.com/
    Merck Research Company; Applications to Register Pesticide:
    http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-PEST/1996/July/Day-10/pr-796.html

    Merck produces chemicals and precursors for pesticides and other
    neurotoxins.

    Merck Chemicals for Industrial Applications - Listed in
    alphabetical order:
    http://www.merck-ti.de/tabelle/cia_tabelle.htm
    "Our broad range of Chemicals for Industrial Applications is
    widely used in many fields of production within the chemical and
    technical industries."
    http://www.merck-ti.de/set_cia.html

    Dow Chemical produces both toxic chemicals and pharmaceuticals.
    (Click on the drop-down list here):
    http://www.dow.com/products_services/index.html
    Dow Pharmaceuticals:
    http://www.dowpharm.com/

    Dow's pesticide products include the organophosphate pesticide
    Dursban (a/k/a Chlorpyrifos/a/k/a RAID a/k/a Lorsban and is
    found in about 800 other pesticide products). Dursban was to be
    phased out and banned from indoor, yard and garden use last year
    because of what it does to the developing brain.

    EPA was going to allow Dursban to "continue to be sold until
    current stocks run out" but Dow has been scrambling to get this
    delayed, and has been conducting short term clinical trials by
    feeding Dursban pills to healthy teenagers in an attempt to get
    it back on the market:
    http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020422/poisons.html

    Dupont Chemical recently sold a pharmaceutical division to
    Bristol Myers Squibb. Dupont makes pesticides and drugs:
    http://www.dupontpharma.com/
    Here is a list of other chemicals and neurotoxins that they
    produce:
    http://www1.dupont.com/NASApp/dupontcom/jsp/products/products/productsMain.jsp


    Do you take Bayer aspirin? Did you know that Bayer also makes
    other drugs, pesticides, chemicals? When you get to the Bayer
    site from the following URL, go to the "application" search
    engine and scroll down to pesticides. At the first URL here, go
    to the right side and click on the drop-down list to see the
    spectrum of products -- for industrial chemicals and "crop
    protection" products, to pharmaceuticals.
    http://www.bayer.com/en/index_en.php

    Bayer pharmaceuticals:
    http://www.pharma.bayer.com/

    It is interesting to note that the Bayer corporation was
    originally the I.G. Farben Company with deep ties to the Nazis
    during the 1920s and 30s. I.G. Farben produced Zyklon-B gas
    which was used in the Nazi death camps. Other big chem/pharm
    manufacturers became owners of pieces of I.G. Farben during the
    lengthy process of dissolving its assets after decades of
    lawsuits and pressures from international organizations for
    alleged I.G.Farben Nazi crimes. Here is a quote from the BBC:

    "Most of the company's assets were confiscated after World War
    II and were transferred to four big German corporations: Bayer,
    Hoechst, Agfa and BASF."

    See BBC article:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1549000/1549092.stm


    Many of these huge transnationals have merged with each other.
    For example, CibaGeigy, Sandoz and other multinational
    chemical/pharmaceutical companies merged to become Novartis.
    Then Novartis Agribusiness merged with Zeneca (Astra-Zeneca)
    Agrochemicals to form Syngenta:
    http://www.syngenta.com/en/syngenta/facts.asp
    Standard and Poor's Stock Exchange profile on Novartis:
    http://www.advisorinsight.com/pub/maccess/nyse/nvtsy_66987v_profile.htm

    Novartis pharmaceuticals, seeds, genetic engineering:
    http://www.novartis.com
    Novartis owns Syngenta -- produces pesticides, herbicides, etc:
    http://www.syngenta-us.com/
    Novartis AG -- incredible list of products, relationships and
    subsidiaries:
    http://www.transnationale.org/fiches/70.htm

    Then there is Astra Zeneca that sold off part of its
    agrochemical business to Novartis. AstraZeneca. For some
    listings of its pharmaceuticals:
    http://www.astrazeneca.com/mainnav1/s_products/s_prod_brands/c_prod_list/index.html


    MERGERS, ACQUISITIONS & SPIN-OFFS IN THE CHEMICALS INDUSTRY 1998
    — 2001:
    http://www.icem.org/events/BKK/chem/ma.html

    AMVAC makes the insecticide NALED a/k/a DIBROM, and nineteen
    other products. AMVAC Chemical Company is owned by American
    Vanguard Corporation, which makes herbicides, pesticides. A
    major portion of its revenues comes from selling its specialty
    chemicals to the pharmaceutical industry. It is also in the
    business of "environmental remediation" and "toxic waste
    management." (Like other chem/pharm companies, American Vanguard
    profits from pollution that they help make, and then get paid to
    clean up).
    http://www.thestandard.com/companies/dossier/0,1922,271462,00.html


    AMVAC's brother subsidiaries include, GemChem, Inc. and
    Environmental Mediation, Inc.

    AMVAC's brother GemChem: "... committed to exceeding industry
    standards as a national chemical distributor. In addition to
    representing AMVAC as its domestic sales force, GemChem also
    sells into the cosmetic, nutritional and pharmaceutical
    markets."

    AMVAC's brother Environmental Mediation, Inc. provides clients
    with: "complex investigative and remedial activities. With...
    core expertise in the areas of hazardous waste, air toxics, and
    water quality..."

    Environmental Mediation, Inc. offers its clients expertise in:

    Issue Analysis
    Strategic Planning
    Government Relations
    Regulatory Strategy
    Environmental Consulting
    Public Affairs

    American Home Products pharmaceuticals and veterinary medicines
    has subsidiaries galore, including American Cyanimid among
    others. American Cyanimid produced many chemical products
    including pesticides and pharmaceutical chemicals.
    http://www.amvac-chemical.com/investor_page/Subsidiaries/subsidiaries.htm

    AHP later changed its name to WYETH, a major holding company:
    http://www.wyeth.com

    American Home Products was gobbled up by the chem/pharm giat
    BASF:
    http://www.basf.com/static/OpenMarket/Xcelerate/Preview_cid-974236855115_pubid-974236850984_c-Article.html


    See paragraph nine:
    http://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/biologie/b_online/ppigb/company.htm


    And this just shows the cycle of profit in all of its glory when
    you see the Chemical Business Research website -- Click on:
    "Code "C4": Cancer Opportunities in the New Millennium"
    http://ecom.sric.sri.com/CBRD/Public/Staff/

    Did you know that thousands of toxic chemicals are impregnated
    into products that we come in intimate contact with every day
    that have woefully inadequate testing? Synthetic chemicals are
    found in clothing, furniture, bedding, paper, food storage
    containers, building materials, pillow feathers, pillow covers,
    inks, mattresses, food, cosmetics, carbonless paper, fragrances,
    and tampons. A wide variety of fat soluable pesticides are even
    impregnated into animal feed (fat soluable means it stores in
    fat). One of the reasons this is done is to cut down on flies in
    the barnyard. The fecal matter becomes so toxic that it ends up
    killing the flies! So the questions is -- does the animal fat
    cause us to get dosed with low levels of this stuff? See EPA web
    site:
    http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_99/40cfr186_99.html

    Most of the public is completely unaware of how pervasive toxic
    chemicals are in our homes and offices. If it were just one or
    two of the chemicals--the effects might be tolerable. But that
    is not the case at all because the relentless cumulative and
    synergistic effects of these chemicals is causing great harm to
    human, animal and environmental health.

    When we, our children and our animals suffer symptoms or become
    ill, have trouble with our reproductive systems -- we spend many
    thousands of dollars on medical imaging, tests, treatments,
    operations, hospitals and drugs... a circle of profit that has
    no equal in the corporate world. Again this year - the
    chemical/pharmaceutical industry was declared the most
    profitable industry in the world.

    What a business plan!

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