Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by elliespad, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. elliespad

    elliespad Member

    I am 50 years old. Never had a problem with my teeth. Never had a cavity in my life. My teeth are suddenly EXTREMELY sensitive and feel as though they have lost their enamel. All of them. Is getting to be actual pain, not just sensitivity.

    Bought me some Sensodyne ProNamel today. Hope it helps.

    Has anyone experienced this sudden onset sensitivity? And what did you find to be the cause?
  2. elliespad

    elliespad Member

    Thanks for your input Caledonia. I have started back on my minerals, had been neglectful for a while. The pain in worse each day, almost unbearable. I can't imagine what has caused this. Will be calling dentist tomorrow and Nurse Practitioner who prescribes my hormones too maybe. I have had sensitive teeth before, but this goes WAY BEYOND that. And I've had sinus infections and throat infections that caused really achy jaw and teeth. This is not aching, but straight up intense pain. Like a bone infection or nerve pain or bone death, or,,,,,,I don't know but it is intense and I actually have the feeling that they might just fall out.

    I few things I know: Have VERY low Ferritin levels, have HIGH
    Fibrinogen, Very low B-12, Very low Vit D, was taking Armour
    sublingual for a few weeks, was taking Iosol, a liquid Iodine extract.
    Was grossly Hypothyroid from TT in Nov 07 until probably Christmas
    08ish, when I finally was able to raise my Armour up to 2 or 3 grains.
    I was SO HYPOTHYROID back in early 08 that I was told I was in danger
    of dying. I think at my worse, my TSH was an 86. Don't know if any of
    this is playing into this awful pain, and feeling of enamel loss. I am
    currently taking 4 or 4.5 grains Armour per day, and just a few
    days ago, switched over to Compounded Hydrocortisone, not timed
    release. Have script for 20 mg a day, to use at my discretion. I
    HATE taking Iron as it really bothers my stomach. Have used Chelated
    Iron and also Feosol. Ugh.

    Afterthought: I have been taking a higher dose of Vit D3 (5000 I.U.) lately maybe a week or two or three, hmmmmm, I wonder. Was initially taking it without my other minerals, just added them back a few days ago. Also, have been neglectful about taking my Progesterone Cream for most of the past year. Only used 2 months worth of cream over a 12 month period. Hmmmmmmm

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  3. 28years

    28years New Member

    I get this too. It's awful--like you have no enamel your teeth.

    I use Act Restoring anti cavity mouth wash (recommended by my dentist).

    It takes several days of diligent use--but it works very well.

    If I stop using it, the pain comes back in a week or so and I have to start over again.
  4. elliespad

    elliespad Member

    Oh THANK YOU for that recommendation 28 years. I will try the ACT. The Sensodyne I bought is supposed to restore enamel too.

    Do any of my "off" labs apply to you too? Something caused this to come on me rather suddenly. I just read where high doses of Vit D3 can cause bone reabsorption and bone pain. I did up my D3 dose a few weeks ago to 5000 iu. I am going to back off, and up, up, up the minerals and and commercial enamel restorers.
  5. 28years

    28years New Member

    I've had this on and off for the many (29)years I've had CFIDS. I've always imaged it was from drinking or eating very acid foods. As a result I avoid a lot of things I really like to eat--like tart apples, grapefruit, etc.

    For fruit juices, that make it worse,--I now add some baking soda them, and to any very acid drinks. This lowers their Ph and seems to be much easier on my teeth.

    I just wing it as to the amount of baking soda I add.
  6. SnooZQ

    SnooZQ New Member

    Anyone with low thyroid function should take care with fluoride products, incl rinses like ACT. Yes, they do decrease the tooth sensitivity. However, fluoride is easily absorbed by the oral mucosa, and it will generally wreak havoc with thyroid function. Fluoride is known to inhibit at least 50 enzymes in the body. Chief among these is the inhibition of the enzymes that help us make and utilize thyroid hormone.

    If I needed to use a fluoride rinse, I would sparingly swab the teeth with the rinse, trying to keep the product away from gums, lips, cheek, tongue. Use a few cotton balls near your salivary glands to prevent saliva from washing the product into your system.

    One thing to consider -- did the sensitivity coincide with the intro of the hydrocortisone?

    I've had extreme tooth sensitivity in past, including NOT being able to get numb despite signing waivers at the dental office for additional local. This has been a problem when my thyroid was out of whack, both when it is too low & when it is too high. Either way can mess with sensitivity of all sorts in the body.

    My dentist has prescribed a nonfluoride toothpaste for sensitivity, one that uses calcium glycerophospate to help rebuild thinning enamel. It's called MI paste, imported from Japan. Good research on its effectiveness. But spendy, $15 for a small tube, only a few ounces.

    Best wishes.

  7. elliespad

    elliespad Member

    Hi SnooZQ, Yeah, I know Flouride is EVIL. I have NO thyroid, so won't inhibit my gland, but still causes plenty of dysfunction I know. I like your idea for the MI paste.

    I have been having VERY dry mouth, especially when I wake during the night, was really severe a month ago. Is still strangely dry as are my eyes. Sounds like Sjogrens to me, Ugh.

    Thanks for the reminder that I should avoid the Flouride products. I havent used Fluoride toothpastes for many years. I use Jasons Healthy Mouth Tea Tree Oil Toothpaste. Has odd taste, but I like it.

    I am hoping to get in to see my dentist ASAP so hopefully he has the MI Paste in the office. Is that where you got yours?
  8. SnooZQ

    SnooZQ New Member

    I got the MI paste from my periodontist. Hopefully your dentist will know about it or be able to check on it for you.

    I agree with you about the dryness. Could be Sjogrens. Are you aware that there are some products available to help acute dry mouth. Oasis is one OTC brand. I'd ask your dentist if he has any samples. My perio (again) is very helpful to me with samples.

    Best wishes.
  9. PainPainGoAway

    PainPainGoAway New Member

    Do you live in a cold climate? I am 40 and about two years ago I noticed the same problem and it would go away after awhile then come back. My dentist told me in my case it was most likely from extreme weather temps (much like biting into a popsicle except no gum pain). So if I go outdoors and it's in the single digits or colder, below zero (especially windchills) I have to keep my mouth covered with a scarf.
    Sensodine didn't work for me. I did buy a $12 tube from the specialist (sorry, can't remember what) that helped but I wouldn't be able to pay that right now.
    Oh, I just looked...yeah, you're in a cold place, all right! My dentist said it's just like that for some teeth, and is related to enamel..that toothpast builds it up. Now I try to keep covered and I'm certainly not out in it as much anymore...
    Just another thought!

    Take Care,
  10. smithdavidus

    smithdavidus Member

    Hi Elliespad, really great to know that you had no teeth problem in your entire life. It is but obvious now to have a sensitive teeth but it can be overtaken if taken care properly. There are few treatments for sensitive teeth like desensitizing toothpastes, fluoride gel, Gum grafts etc. You need to find a dentist who can guide you for the best suitable treatment.