fibro symptom list?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by wildflowers2, May 31, 2007.

  1. wildflowers2

    wildflowers2 New Member

    I saw it once on here but, is there a web page that it came from?

    I did have a copy and showed my Dr and he wanted to know where I got it.....I guess as IF, I made all this crap up..thanks
  2. 139864

    139864 New Member

    This is from the Mayo Clinic .You should cut / paste & take it to show your Dr.
    It still amazes me that there are Dr's who are ignorant to the facts of FM.
    Brenda uk

    and symptoms
    Signs and symptoms of fibromyalgia can vary, depending on the weather, stress, physical activity or even the time of day. Common signs and symptoms include:

    Widespread pain. Fibromyalgia is characterized by pain in specific areas of your body when pressure is applied, including the back of your head, upper back and neck, upper chest, elbows, hips and knees. The pain generally persists for months at a time and is often accompanied by stiffness.
    Fatigue and sleep disturbances. People with fibromyalgia often wake up tired and unrefreshed even though they seem to get plenty of sleep. Some studies suggest that this sleep problem is the result of a sleep disorder called alpha wave interrupted sleep pattern, a condition in which deep sleep is frequently interrupted by bursts of brain activity similar to wakefulness. So people with fibromyalgia miss the deep restorative stage of sleep. Nighttime muscle spasms in your legs and restless legs syndrome also may be associated with fibromyalgia.
    Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). The constipation, diarrhea, abdominal pain and bloating associated with IBS are common in people with fibromyalgia.
    Headaches and facial pain. Many people who have fibromyalgia also have headaches and facial pain that may be related to tenderness or stiffness in their neck and shoulders. Temporomandibular joint (TMJ) dysfunction, which affects the jaw joints and surrounding muscles, also is common in people with fibromyalgia.
    Heightened sensitivity. It's common for people with fibromyalgia to report being sensitive to odors, noises, bright lights and touch.
    Other common signs and symptoms include:

    Numbness or tingling sensations in the hands and feet (paresthesia)
    Difficulty concentrating
    Mood changes
    Chest pain
    Dry eyes, skin and mouth
    Painful menstrual periods
  3. Debra49659

    Debra49659 New Member

    This is a list that was posted here:

    Checklist of symptoms for FMS

    ____ Fatigue, made worse by physical exertion or stress
    ____ Activity level decreased to less than 50% of pre-illness activity level
    ____ Recurrent flu-like illness
    ____ Sore throat
    ____ Hoarseness
    ____ Tender or swollen lymph nodes (glands), especially in neck and underarms
    ____ Shortness of breath (air hunger) with little or no exertion
    ____ Frequent sighing
    ____ Tremor or trembling
    ____ Severe nasal allergies (new allergies or worsening of previous allergies)
    ____ Cough
    ____ Night sweats
    ____ Low-grade fevers
    ____ Feeling cold often
    ____ Feeling hot often
    ____ Cold extremities (hands and feet)
    ____ Low body temperature (below 97.6)
    ____ Low blood pressure (below 110/70)
    ____ Heart palpitations
    ____ Dryness of eyes and/or mouth
    ____ Increased thirst
    ____ Symptoms worsened by temperature changes
    ____ Symptoms worsened by air travel
    ____ Symptoms worsened by stress

    ____ Headache
    ____ Tender points or trigger points
    ____ Muscle pain
    ____ Muscle twitching
    ____ Muscle weakness
    ____ Paralysis or severe weakness of an arm or leg
    ____ Joint pain
    ____ TMJ syndrome
    ____ Chest pain

    ____ Lightheadedness; feeling "spaced out"
    ____ Inability to think clearly ("brain fog")
    ____ Seizures
    ____ Seizure-like episodes
    ____ Syncope (fainting) or blackouts
    ____ Sensation that you might faint
    ____ Vertigo or dizziness
    ____ Numbness or tingling sensations
    ____ Tinnitus (ringing in one or both ears)
    ____ Photophobia (sensitivity to light)
    ____ Noise intolerance

    ____ Feeling spatially disoriented
    ____ Dysequilibrium (balance difficulty)
    ____ Staggering gait (clumsy walking; bumping into things)
    ____ Dropping things frequently
    ____ Difficulty judging distances (e.g. when driving; placing objects on surfaces)
    ____ "Not quite seeing" what you are looking at

    ____ Hypersomnia (excessive sleeping)
    ____ Sleep disturbance: unrefreshing or non-restorative sleep
    ____ Sleep disturbance: difficulty falling asleep
    ____ Sleep disturbance: difficulty staying asleep (frequent awakenings)
    ____ Sleep disturbance: vivid or disturbing dreams or nightmares
    ____ Altered sleep/wake schedule (alertness/energy best late at night)

    ____ Depressed mood
    ____ Suicidal thoughts
    ____ Suicide attempts
    ____ Feeling worthless
    ____ Frequent crying
    ____ Feeling helpless and/or hopeless
    ____ Inability to enjoy previously enjoyed activities
    ____ Increased appetite
    ____ Decreased appetite
    ____ Anxiety or fear when there is no obvious cause
    ____ Panic attacks
    ____ Irritability; overreaction
    ____ Rage attacks: anger outbursts with little or no cause
    ____ Abrupt, unpredictable mood swings
    ____ Phobias (irrational fears)
    ____ Personality changes

    ____ Eye pain
    ____ Changes in visual acuity (frequent changes in ability to see well)
    ____ Difficulty with accommodation (switching focus from one thing to another)
    ____ Blind spots in vision

    ____ Sensitivities to medications (unable to tolerate "normal" dosage)
    ____ Sensitivities to odors (e.g., cleaning products, exhaust fumes, colognes, hair sprays)
    ____ Sensitivities to foods
    ____ Alcohol intolerance
    ____ Alteration of taste, smell, and/or hearing

    ____ Frequent urination
    ____ Painful urination or bladder pain
    ____ Prostate pain
    ____ Impotence
    ____ Endometriosis
    ____ Worsening of premenstrual syndrome (PMS) and/or bleeding
    ____ Decreased libido (sex drive)

    ____ Stomach ache; abdominal cramps
    ____ Nausea
    ____ Vomiting
    ____ Esophageal reflux (heartburn)
    ____ Frequent diarrhea
    ____ Frequent constipation
    ____ Bloating; intestinal gas
    ____ Decreased appetite
    ____ Increased appetite
    ____ Food cravings
    ____ Weight gain (____ lbs)
    ____ Weight loss (____ lbs)

    ____ Rashes or sores
    ____ Eczema or psoriasis

    ____ Hair loss
    ____ Mitral valve prolapse
    ____ Cancer
    ____ Dental problems
    ____ Periodontal (gum) disease
    ____ Aphthous ulcers (canker sores)
    ____ Hypothyroidism

    ____ Difficulty with simple calculations (e.g., balancing checkbook)
    ____ Word-finding difficulty
    ____ Using the wrong word
    ____ Difficulty expressing ideas in words
    ____ Difficulty moving your mouth to speak
    ____ Slowed speech
    ____ Stuttering; stammering
    ____ Impaired ability to concentrate
    ____ Easily distracted during a task
    ____ Difficulty paying attention
    ____ Difficulty following a conversation when background noise is present
    ____ Losing your train of thought in the middle of a sentence
    ____ Difficulty putting tasks or things in proper sequence
    ____ Losing track in the middle of a task (remembering what to do next)
    ____ Difficulty with short-term memory
    ____ Difficulty with long-term memory
    ____ Forgetting how to do routine things
    ____ Difficulty understanding what you read
    ____ Switching left and right
    ____ Transposition (reversal) of numbers, words and/or letters when you speak
    ____ Transposition (reversal) of numbers, words and/or letters when you write
    ____ Difficulty remembering names of objects
    ____ Difficulty remembering names of people
    ____ Difficulty recognizing faces
    ____ Difficulty following simple written instructions
    ____ Difficulty following complicated written instructions
    ____ Difficulty following simple oral (spoken) instructions
    ____ Difficulty following complicated oral (spoken) instructions
    ____ Poor judgment
    ____ Difficulty making decisions
    ____ Difficulty integrating information (putting ideas together to form a complete picture or concept)
    ____ Difficulty following directions while driving
    ____ Becoming lost in familiar locations when driving
    ____ Feeling too disoriented to drive

    Hope this helps:)
  4. monalisa3

    monalisa3 New Member

    Wow! This is great. Skimmed throught the list. It's actually scary to realise how many symptoms I actually have apart from the obvious pain.
  5. suzette1954

    suzette1954 New Member

    Im replying to myself so it will be in my posts.

    I had seen it before but this is great.

  6. PBandJ

    PBandJ New Member

    WOW!! It is amazing to actually see it in print. I have had "diagnosed" hypothyroidism for over 18 years now. I had a friend suggest that I may have FM. After reading all of the symptoms it wouldn't supprise me now.

  7. Esperanza25

    Esperanza25 New Member

    I found these symptoms :) Hope it helps.

    Aggravating Factors
    Chest pain
    • sharp, stabbing pain in the front of the chest
    • ribs that are sore to the touch
    • pain on the left or right side of the chest
    • upper chest pains
    • burning pain in the ribs
    • pain that radiates up the back of the neck and shoulders
    • pain in your chest when you sneeze or cough
    • pain that increases with activity, exertion, or deep breathing
    • pain that decreases with rest, movement, or slow breathing
    • rapid heart rate
    • irregular heart rate
    • shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
    Chronic headaches
    Non-Allergy Rhinitis
    Muscle Twitching & Weakness
    Morning Stiffness
    Chemically Sensitivity
    Myofascial Pain Syndrome
    Skin Problems
    Sleep disorders
    Temporomandibular Joint Disorder
    Urinary and Pelvic Problem
    Widespread Pain
    Weather and Fibromyalgia
    The Menstrual Cycle
    Troubles breathing
    Eye sight
    Irritable Bowel Syndrome
    Reynaud’s Phenomenon
    Lyme Disease
    Cushing’s Syndrome
    Sjogrens Syndrome
    • eye irritation or infection
    • persistent burning or dry eyes
    • gritty sensations in the eyes
    • extremely dry mouth
    • sore or cracked tongue
    • difficulty chewing or swallowing
    • difficulty speaking
    • unexplained dental problems
    • dry nasal passages
    • extreme fatigue

    Chron’s Disease
    Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
    Multiple Sclerosis
    Chronic Fatigue syndrome
    Polymyalgia Rheumatica
    Rheumatoid Arthritis
    Morton’s Neuroma
    Seasonal Affective Disorder
    Cardiovascular Effects
    Intertistials Cystitis


    muscular weakness
    painful muscles
    joint pain without swelling or reddened joints
    difficulty in swallowing
    Flu-like Symptoms

    Recurring "flu-like" symptoms
    sore throat
    swollen lymph nodes
    nights sweats
    low grade fever
    Gastrointestinal / Urinary / Sexual

    gastrointestinal problems, abdominal cramps, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (diarrhea/constipation, abdominal bloating
    digestive difficulties
    difficulty in initiating urination
    frequent urination
    painful intercourse


    Secondary depression
    Emotional lability (mood swings)
    Environmental / Food Sensitivities

    some experience an increase in sensitivity to environmental toxins
    develop food sensitivities, not previously experienced
    Other Symptoms

    irregular heartrate
    shortness of breath
    low blood pressure
    Orthostatic intolerance (difficulty with stationary standing)
    abnormal body temperature dysfunction (feeling cold or too warm)

    Fibromyalgia symptoms
    The following is an expanded list of common symptoms often associated with FM. Not all patients will experience all of these symptoms and each case is individual.
    PAIN - diffuse musculoskeletal pain and fatigue. The syndrome is defined by the presence of musculoskeletal tender points on physical examination. Pain is often described as aching, burning, throbbing, gnawing, shooting &/or tingling. It can be localized, generalized, can feel like muscle spasms and can be scattered throughout the body. It may be migratory, with pain presenting in one or more areas on one day and other areas on another day. Pain is often experienced very quickly after any repetitive movement - even something as simple as holding arms up to brush or comb hair etc.
    Numerous vague unspecified symptoms that wax and wane and cause fibro sufferers to "just never feel good".
    Due to the lack of Stage 4 sleep, muscle repair does not occur properly and therefore muscles take longer to heal and regenerate after micro injuries or trauma as is experienced by everyone in day to day life. Micro trauma during exercise is not repaired in FMS patients in the same manner as it is in normal people - thus the muscle stiffness causes much more distress in fibromyalgics or FMSers and takes longer to subside, therefore exercise is not refreshing but continuously causes pain making patients reluctant to engage in an exercise routine.
    Fibromyalgics have 3 times the amount of Substance P in their bodies than normal people. Substance P is the vehicle that carries pain stimuli to the brain. The brain may also interpret the pain improperly and respond inappropriately. What might be experienced as a "tickle", itch or annoyance normally - is often experienced as pain in those who suffer with FMS. There are often more pain receptors in FMSers, therefore pain is magnified.
    Bilateral Pain in various points in areas throughout the body. There are 18 TPR’s - Diagnosis of FMS is made if pressure on 11 of these 18 points causes pain. Areas throughout the body may feel "bruised" when touched. The tender point is considered to be positive if an approximate force of 4 kg. of pressure causes pain when applied to the specified points. Widespread pain must have been present for at least 3 months with the associated tenderpoint pain in order for Fibromyalgia to be diagnosed.
    FMS patients may bruise more easily than others and some may experience excessive bruising.
    Temporomandibular Joint Disorder: in many FM patients, problems are encountered because of the abnormal tone in muscles around the joint, not because of abnormalities in the joint itself. (Pain in the face and jaw)
    Grinding of teeth at night.
    Clenching of jaw at night.
    Headaches: tension &/migraine.
    Recurrent sore throat.
    Chest Pain: Non-cardiac pain that may simulate cardiac disorder.
    Heart murmur: may be Mitral Valve Prolapse. (MVP occurs in up to 75% of fibromyalgics) See:
    Heart palpitations.
    Heartburn and digestive problems.
    Esophageal dysmotility or reflux.
    Back Pain: usually low back pain - may be exacerbated by muscle spasms in this area.
    Sacro-iliac instability and pain.
    Joint Hypermobility and Laxity: lax ligaments or what is commonly referred to as being "double-jointed". People who have this condition often ache and are more susceptible to osteoarthritis later in life. Studies suggest that joint hypermobility and fibromyalgia are associated and that the hypermobility can play a role in the pathogenesis or development of pain in fibro.
    Shoulder pain: Often burning type of pain - often between the shoulder blades.
    Postural Changes: shoulders hunched forward or rounded, head thrust forward with neck kinked forward, chest sunken, low back pushed forward causing abdomen to protrude, knees locked, muscles in back of thighs flexed - all a mechanism to find a comfortable position.
    Painful lymph nodes: under the arms and neck.
    Carpal tunnel syndrome: numbness, tingling and pain in wrists, hands and/or fingers. Pain in hands makes writing, typing, wringing out dish cloth etc difficult. Pain when plunging hands into cold water. (also pain maybe experienced on entering the water if swimming in cold water).
    Paresthesia: Numbness or tingling (non-dermatomal) Numbness in arms and legs.
    Raynaud's - like symptoms - numbness and tingling in the extremities especially in fingers, exacerbated by the cold.
    Many fibromyalgics feel cold even when it is not particularly cold inside or out. Often hands & feet are very cold. Sometimes the sensation of cold seems to cause pain as well as giving the sensation of cold. A warm shower will usually help to alleviate this sensation whereas turning up the heat in the house does not.
    Tennis Elbow: Pain in elbow and forearm.
    Dry, itchy, blotchy skin &/or skin rashes.
    Ridges: may develop in finger nails and toe nails. Nails may split. Nails may break off easily. If they do grow they may curve or curl under.
    Restless Leg Syndrome: Aching in legs especially at night causes legs to be moved constantly in an attempt to ease the pain or aching.
    Weak knees and ankles. Cramps in legs.
    Foot Pain: Plantar arch or heel pain, may be plantar fasciitis.
    Muscle and joint aches.
    Severe muscle weakness.
    Muscle spasms: may feel like tight knots or charlie horse or lumps. Muscles contract but do not release properly. Muscles apparently may contract without receiving stimulus from the brain.
    Twitching: can be muscular - may experience eye twitch or a facial twitch.
    Burning sensations in muscles throughout the body.
    Nausea: may be caused by overload of pain stimuli bombarding the brain - nausea may also be experienced when moving from a horizontal to a vertical position.
    Recurrent flu-like illness with muscle pain and aching.
    Weight change: -usually gain - a feeling of swelling or puffiness might be experienced. May experience retention of fluid for a few days and then return to "normal". May "feel" swollen even if inflammation and swelling are not actually present.
    Hair loss: hair may come out in great "gobs" when combed or brushed. May notice hair coming out when it is being washed as well.
    Sleep disturbance/non restorative sleep: may be described as not being able to fall asleep, not being able to stay asleep or more common, "I feel like I haven't slept at all". May awaken frequently and be unable to return to sleep for some time. May wake up "full" of pain and feel "more tired" than on going to bed.
    There is a disturbance in the sleep pattern and fibromyalgics are not able to enter into stage 4 sleep, thus they awaken frequently through the night when they reach Stage 4. One may also feel that they are awake and asleep. In essence what happens is that there is brain wave activity of sleep going on in the brain and at the same time there is brain wave energy of being awake going on - almost like the sleep patterns and awake patterns are playing in the brain at the same time. Restful sleep is never achieved. Thus there follows deep aching discomfort throughout the body and the feeling of being exhausted. The shoulders, neck and low back are often the most painful.
    Frequent, unusual nightmares or being unable to dream - "black" heavy sleep may be experienced if medication is taken to aid staying asleep.
    Night sweats: wake up drenched in perspiration, then become very cold and maybe even start to shiver.
    Intolerance to cold: muscles contract in response to exposure to cold - cold weather, cold drafts, ice packs etc. Sometimes referred to as muscle jelling as in jello - jello is fluid and liquid when warm and jells when chilled. Extreme sensitivity to seasonal changes, climatic changes - rain and impending storms. Most Fibro patients find that their muscles respond to the application of warmth but that application of ice packs or cold intensifies pain.
    Body temperature fluctuations - hot one minute and cold the next. Perhaps inner "controls" (thermoregulatory system) are out of whack.
    Fatigue - can be described as feeling tired to being extremely exhausted after minimal physical exertion. Sometimes a short nap in the afternoon may help relieve the feeling of fatigue, yet some people require frequent rest periods to get them through the day. Sometimes the fatigue can come on suddenly for no apparent reason and can be very debilitating. Short periods of exertion can require long periods of rest to recuperate. Can be severe and have a sudden onset even with minimal physical exertion. May experience sudden debilitating fatigue that makes it necessary to immediately stop whatever one is doing and go and rest. May be experience as a sheet of fatigue descending over one. It is so debilitating that patients are often left wondering how they can carry on - "I'm just too tired to keep on living"
    Disequilbrium - impaired co-ordination: misjudge distances - bang into door frames, walk into furniture, walls etc.
    Cognitive function problems: such as attention deficit disorder, calculation difficulties, memory disturbance, spatial disorientation, difficulty with concentration and short-term memory. These things are commonly referred to by FMSers as "fibrofog".
    Neurogenic inflammation: rashes and hives, inflammatory sensation, with rashes that may be severe, severe itching with inflammation - initiated by nerves.
    Alteration of taste, smell, hearing. Some odours may make one nauseous.
    Sensitivity amplification: may be more sensitive to smells, sound, odours, lights, pressure and temperature fluctuations, vibrations and noise etc. - the buzzing from fluorescent lights, hum of computer, buzz of overhead hydro lines may become almost unbearable to an FMSer at times. FMS hyper-sensitizes nerve endings.
    May develop food intolerances, allergies and chemical sensitivities.
    Changes in visual acuity: impaired function of smooth muscles used for focus as well as skeletal muscles for tracking. May experience blurred vision &/or double vision. Some people require two or three different eye glass prescriptions as their needs change with the Fibro symptoms.
    Exaggerated nystagmus: involuntary rapid movement of the eyeball.
    Intolerance of bright lights/sunlight.
    Dry eyes and mouth: dry mouth can cause dental problems - dry eyes may cause inability to wear contact lens, may cause other visual problems, may require eye drops to keep eyes moist and free from infection. Eyes may be very dry at times and water at other times.
    Hearing Loss: low frequency, sensorineural hearing loss.
    Decreased painful sound threshold. Sometimes normal everyday noises become very irritating. May not tolerate radio or television well.
    Ringing in the ears - ringing and sounds like the rolling ocean or whispers may be experienced.
    Allergies: Severe nasal and other allergies and patients may also have a deep sinus infection.
    Environmental sensitivities may develop.
    Enhancement of medication side effects.
    Intolerance of medications that were previously tolerated.
    Intolerance of alcohol.
    Intolerance of caffeine.
    Intolerance of processed white sugar.
    Premenstrual Syndrome: swelling, tenderness and lumps in breasts are often experienced with PMS, painful periods as well as mood swings, exaggerated emotional responses etc. etc. as common in PMS.
    Fibrocystic Breast Disease: may be experienced by FMSers especially prior to period. Breasts may become very swollen and sore and be full of cysts or lumps that disappear after period.
    Frequent vaginal yeast infections.
    Vulvar vestibulitis or vulvodynia.
    Interstitial cystitis.
    Irritable Bladder/Frequent Urination: might be uncomfortable or painful. Also bladders spasms may feel like a bladder infection.
    Irritable Bowel Syndrome: alternate between constipation and diarrhea. Frequent abdominal pain, gas and nausea.
    Depression: may be reactive or clinical. Often pain and feeling ill all of the time causes the depression. FMSers are depressed because they hurt. They do not hurt because they are depressed.
    Anxiety: may include panic attacks.
    Emotional lability or mood swings.
    Personality changes: usually a worsening of a previous tendency. People who have FMS sometimes have a hard time accepting their limitations and the loss of the person they "used to be" - they may actually go into the mourning process. Because FMS is an "invisible" sort of illness - and patients often see many Doctors before being properly diagnosed, they often begin to doubt themselves.
    Fibromyalgics desperately need support and understanding from those closest to them but they often feel alienated because of their illness and inability to participate fully in many common activities of daily living. Many are unable to continue working at the jobs they love and thus lose part of the identity that their job may give them. They begin to lose their sense of independence and productivity and their sense of value.
    Anger and resentment towards lack of understanding may alter FMSers personality drastically and cause even further alienation from family and friends. Along with this sense of helplessness and worthlessness that may develop, they may begin to feel guilty for not being able to be the person that others need or expect them to be. They may become extremely depressed and begin to lose interest in life altogether.
    Fibromyalgia does not usually respond to anti-inflammatory medications. Initially there may be a positive effect but often this initial response subsides. Low doses of anti-depressants are often administered in an attempt to modify sleep patterns and serotin uptake. Analgesics likewise often become ineffective once the body has become accustomed to them. Doctors are sometimes reluctant to prescribe narcotic analgesics due to the possibility of addiction. Various herbal remedies are found to have some positive effects by some fibromyalgics as are various vitamin and mineral supplement preparations. There are special herbal combinations specifically for FMS - one being Fibro-M by Organika. Kelp can be helpful in increasing energy.
    Exercise Programs are effective for some FMSers while they exacerbates the pain for others. Swimming is helpful for some people. Warm Baths are sometimes comforting especially if sea salt or epsom salts are added to the water. Heating Pads are helpful - either regular pads or moist heat. Infra Red Pads are also helpful for some patients. Analgesic rubs or liniments also bring some temporary relief. Massage, Reflexology and Chiropractic treatments are effective for some FMSers but tend to be aggravating to others.
    It is very important for those who suffer from this syndrome to remember that THEY have fibromyalgia and that fibromyalgia DOES NOT HAVE them!

    It is a long list but you may want to bring this list to your doctor. I always had the same answer from the doctors... you are depressed therefore, is in your head.

    Good luck :0
  8. notsocheerybear

    notsocheerybear New Member

    just replying to myself so they are in my message board..
  9. harmony21

    harmony21 New Member


  10. Grammcrkrs

    Grammcrkrs New Member


    Esperanza - I saw the long list which you posted, but haven't read it all looks like there are 2 lists in your post...but does it all pertain to Fibro or is there supposed to be CFS symptoms in there also?

    Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but I just need it clear in my head!

    And said you posted the difference between CFS and FMS...where did you do that?? If it seems I'm confused, well I am! lol!! (nothing new there for me)

    Thanks for any clarification.

    {{Gramms -- occasional poster))
  11. harmony21

    harmony21 New Member

    I will bump it again, I would just like to know what the diffs are, besides what I have stated, I saw it on the net once

    and cant find it again ofcourse!!!!!
    I think theres a difference in the type of fatigue too...
    Am not clear on it either, I ask and it goes right out of my head

    angel hugs
  12. harmony21

    harmony21 New Member