Guy, My mother has severe rhumetoid arthritis. She takes Enbrel and Methatrexate injections as well as other meds for arthritis. Dr. Peter Gott writes a column in our paper in Memphis, TN. He several times has mentioned a cream for pain called Castiva with natural castor oil base. My mother purchased a tube at the pharmacy. She was really impressed. I would not try it. It takes more than a cream to help me. One day my neck was killing me and she insisted on using this cream - in 30 min. my neck was not hurting. I could not believe it. This stuff does not stink. It is about $15 a tube, but it might be worth trying. Believe me I am not selling it. I had not heard of it until my mother bought it. Maybe it will give someone else some relief.