Frozen shoulder?? Can't move it HELP?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by gramaT, May 13, 2006.

  1. gramaT

    gramaT New Member

    Hi all,

    Hope you are doin better than me :(
    I woke this yest. with shoulder and neck pain so bad,

    took lotsa pain meds etc all day...

    then this am woke with what must be frozen shoulder. It hurts so bad I cant move it or turn my head all the way.
    My hubby had to help me up to get a pill and a drink. He went to breakfast with his bro and I told his brother I was
    falling apart. He said, 'she's too young for that!'

    I wonder if a shot of cortozone or something would help.
    This weather doesn't help in Ill- its rained or cloudy all week!!

    Thank you for your help
    Carolyn
  2. lovethesun

    lovethesun New Member

    It will shrink the swelling and hopefully give you a little movement,then rest and after a while use a heating pad to relax the muscles.If you have a muscle relaxer now is the time to take it,

    This happens to me fairly often.I hope you will feel better soon.Linda



    [This Message was Edited on 05/13/2006]
  3. caroleye

    caroleye New Member

    I had both frozen arms several years ago, and if it truly is that, time to heal varies. And nothing I did helped.

    But first I would go to a good chiropractor; you may just be "out" from sleeping.

    This must be in the air, as yesterday I woke up & couldn't get out of bed because of my lower back/hip area. Chiropractor said I was way "out".

    AND there's a FULL MOON (in water) that makes everything worse as it pulls on all our bodily water.

    Before I got to the D.C. I put ice on & off for 4 hours. Rubbed arnica gel on it & tried to stretch (that didn't work). Maybe try an "alieve"??

    HOpefully this is temporary & not frozen shoulder!!

    LIGHT**************carole
  4. patches25

    patches25 New Member

    In 1993 I had a really bad shoulder---had progressively gotten worse over several months. The rheumetologist gave me a shot of cortisone which cleared it up. Actually my dentist told me about the shot, as dentists have lots of shoulder problems. Dentist said it would last for 1 to 8 years and here it is 13 years later and my shoulder is still so good.

    Prior to the shot, another doctor had me on 4 Advil 4 times a day and it did help bring swelling down. But then came a time that Advil just wasn't enough. Never regretted getting the shot since it actually really helped my fibro too. E.
  5. suzette1954

    suzette1954 New Member

    read your bio and saw that you are new here. I want to welcome you to the board and the best friends you will ever have. We have so many super smart people on here and we all understand what you are going through.

    My neck and left shoulder has been giving me fits for about 3 wks. I use ice and it numbs it for alittle while. I also use a heavy duty cream called Soltice. heats it up fast and keeps working for hours. I also have a vibrating neck pillow and one of those back vibrating heating things that fits on your chair. Im so sorry you are having problems.

    again, welome

    Suzette
  6. gramaT

    gramaT New Member

    THANK YOU THANKYOU,

    Carole- I think chiro is a good idea. havent been for quite a while (dr. doesn't believe in fibro) also, I will try the ice, i think the heat is making it worse.

    patches- Good to hear the cortisone is helping you. I don't have a rhuemy but will look into getting one. thanks

    suzette- Ice too, yes I will do that now, thanks. I never heard of soltice, where do you get it, health food store?
    thanks.

    You all were so helpful and sweet to care. May God bless you and heal you.
    love
    Carolyn
  7. gramaT

    gramaT New Member

    Thank you, I will get that book. I was interested in the myofascial massage too and I have an appt for massage on Monday, but was going to cancel because of this intense pain. Mabe I will see if she does this type of trigger pount massage. You guys are great! Thanks again
  8. gramaT

    gramaT New Member

    sorry, I meant to thank you. I will do the cold pack first.Mabe that's what I did wrong yest. and made it worse, heat too much.
    love,Carolyn
  9. agcgmom

    agcgmom New Member

    I also, cannot say enough about the Trigger Point book by Clair Davies. I had been going to a chiropractor for what we believed was a back issue for 6 months. He referred me to a orthopedic surgeon because he said he could not do anymore for me. I had terrible sciatic pain down my left leg. I could hardly stand let alone walk. I pulled that trigger point book out (I got it at my FM dr office)and started reading it again. It has been 5 weeks and I have had HUGE improvement. I am doing the shoulder thing too. It is not always a quick fix though. The longer you have had an active trigger point, the longer it takes to get rid of it and they can be stubborn. I recently purchased the revised addition and even sent a copy to my dad who was in an accident last summer and has lots of pain.
  10. LittleBluestem

    LittleBluestem New Member

    The little bit of myofascial release that the average massage therapists knows may not be enough for you. If not, check to see if Hand-On-Health Therapy Specialists is still in business in Peoria. The last I knew, they were located near the intersection of War Memorial and Knoxville. The woman who runs it is named Cindy/Cyndi (however she spells it). She is highly trained in Myofascial Release and a variety of other physical therapy techniques.
  11. insanelady

    insanelady New Member

    Hello Carolyn"

    Funny I should run across this message. I just got over the shoulder and neck on the right side being frozen. I could not turn my neck or the pain was so intense. My doc saw it and said it was a muscle spasm. She said to put cold pack on it and If my chyropractor does lazer try that. If not she recommended a gentle massage by a massage therapist.
    Thank goodness it did not get down to that. It is mothers day and I woke up all better after a gentle massage from my daughter.

    Hope this has helped some.

    (((gentle hugs))))

    Rosiline
  12. gramaT

    gramaT New Member

    Hi, good to meet you!
    You live near Peoria? Cool. I will look that place up to see if they are still there. Thank you

    I'm so sorry you had to give up your little colt. The horses are beautiful. I just love horses unfortunately live in a small town so have never owned any. I hope you get better and will pray you'll find a Dr that can help you.
    I had to get a PCP so he is not very helpful and am still looking for a good specialist.

    Keep on keepin on
    Carolyn
  13. dannybex

    dannybex Member

    ...this past Saturday (had an MRI last week). Good news I guess is that I don't have any torn tendons or ligaments, but the "frozen shoulder" diagnosis makes sense because it's been gradually freezing up more and more the past 5-6 months, despite 3 months of physical therapy.

    The author of the trigger point book has a new book just out this week on Amazon called "The Frozen Shoulder Workbook". He claims to have resolved his frozen shoulder in about 4 weeks. So I pinched my pennies together and ordered a copy...

    But I'm wondering -- since the shoulder is inflammed, wouldn't natural anti-inflammatory things help? Like EFA's or omega 3 oils (fish oils), garlic, bromelain, ginger, etc???

    What's frustrating is that no one (at least on the web) seems to know how and what causes these trigger points. Some say poor circulation, not enough exercise, and/or poor posture...

    If only I could take back the last 6 months (when I had full mobility in my shoulders) and do some upper body exercises and stretching. But hindsight is always 20/20.

    Still, have had CFIDS for 8-9 years, and this didn't come on until March of this year.

    Am also considering cortisone, but have heard some bad reactions.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

    THANKS,

    Dan
  14. ll1816

    ll1816 Member

    I had frozen shoulder years ago and like you woke up one morning and couldn't move it. I did see an ortho and was given a corisone injection. It really helped. I was moving it later that day.

    I wish you the best of luck.

    Hugs,
    Liz
  15. FM58

    FM58 New Member

    Carolyn,

    I've had both of my shoulders dx as "frozen shoulder". I went to an orthopedist, who sent me to physical therapy.

    My PT was excellent, he was very familiar w/ FM - he explained that recuping from adhesive capulitis(sp) takes a very, very long time. It involves both exercises & gentle manual manipulation by the PT. If I missed a week of PT, my progress slid backwards.

    To this day I still do not have full range of motion recovered, but at least I have "usable" range and function.

    I strongly recommend seeing an orthopedist & starting PT. My ortho finally gave me cortizone injectiones in both shoulders - after several months of therapy. What a God send! It helped immensely w/ the pain & also w/ the range of motion.

    Good Luck & I hope your shoulder feels better soon!

    Gentle Hugs,
    Patty
  16. dannybex

    dannybex Member

    Haley wrote:

    "According to Devin Starlanyl's site, sover.net, myofascial trigger points are caused by a lack of oxygen to the muscles.

    One of the main characteristics of CFS/FM is that our bodies can't utilize nutrients, hormones and other substances in the blood including oxygen. We also don't get enough oxygen to our brains which helps account for the brainfog."

    Thanks Haley. I guess I've read that before -- which leads me to the conclusion it's a circulation (or microcirculation) thing, since blood brings oxygen to the tissues. ???

    I'll consider a cortisone shot too. I've only received one negative feedback from a PWC -- she had a terrible experience, it worsened her situation -- but just about everyone else -- maybe 8-9 people -- have suggested it helped.

    But one thing -- they said it was really painful? True? Or can one get an anesthetic first, and/or does it come in a patch?

    Thanks to all,

    Dan