Gall Bladder,!

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Sacajawea2, May 21, 2009.

  1. Sacajawea2

    Sacajawea2 Member

    Hi! I'm too weak today to search or google...have been having some problems that I am thinking is my gall bladder.

    What have you taken/done/avoided to help this problem? Pain is not much of an issue today and I do plan on making an apt. now that I know it's not just a "bug" or nerves (well, nerves and stress are on high right now). It's hard to move around today, thankfully no pain!

  2. lynncats

    lynncats New Member

    hey SJ, I thought I was having problems with my gallbladder. Pain in the upper right side, like where your liver/gallbladder are. Naseau, bowel problems, loss of appetite. But I went for a sonogram, came back normal. They also sent me for a Hida Scan, to make sure my gallbladder was functioning right, well, that also came back normal. Well, I'm back at square one! Am going to ask my Dr. on my next visit. If it isn't my gallbladder, then what the heck is going on, is it the FM? Wow, this whole sickness, is just unbelieveable. Good luck to you! And I'm here if you need to talk.


  3. trini23

    trini23 New Member

    Hi SJ,
    I had my gallbladder removed after my pregnancy, my husband was in the military back then and of course those who know how the military hospital works it can be a trying event. I've had your normal as what I though was normal at the time...pregnancy acid type reflex from foods, but when I started having pains that was becoming stronger I thought I was having the baby early.

    The night I had to go into the emergency room I ate a very large amount of food, that evening I had a 8 oz steak, a bake potatoes fully loaded with sour cream , cheese, bacon and chives on top, with some crab legs and broccoli and then to top it off I had a brownie layered with fudge and ice cream ( mind you I don't eat like that anymore hehehe in fact I really didn't eat like that unless I was pregnant lol )

    So after eating all that, hours passed I started having pains, I thought I was having the baby early, but then these pains moved from the side to my chest and it felt like someone was taking a knife at my back and inserting it deep into my heart, I also started feeling what later I learned anxiety attack , my heart felt like I was about to vomit it up.
    so I was rushed to the hospital and because I was pregnant at the time I had everyone scrambling to figure out if I was having a heart attack. they even sent in a heart specialist, after 3 hours of excruciating pain and heart monitor on myself and the baby, the heart specialist finally concluded it was my gallbladder, but they couldn't do anything for it because they didn't want to hurt the baby, so I had to watch what I ate or it would trigger pains.

    I was told some people can't eat salad, other it's steak and sweets, so whenever I ate I cringe praying it wouldn't effect me. a week after my son was born I had to go back in and they removed my gallbladder along with 4 gall stones that looked like meteorites, they smelled awful, but looked interestingly cool. the doctors gave them to me to look at.

    since that day I still have problems eating certain food, I just try to stay away from things that effect me, now years later, I'm finding out something else might be wrong all along.

    I hope that you find out soon, all I can say is, the pain you feel is very much different from what others feel, mine was like having a heart attack...others I heard had pains strictly on the side just below their rib cage. Also vomiting is associated with it too, I wasn't the only one who had that experience.
    Take care,
    P.S make sure you get this taken care of as soon as possible, if it is your gallbladder the stones do get large, two of mine was the size of nickles.

  4. satchya

    satchya New Member

    I had to have mine out a few months after I had my third child. I suffered about four excruciating attacks before it was diagnosed. I think if it's your gallbladder it will be hard to miss. I remember the first one happened right after I nursed my daughter in the middle of the night. I sat there thinking, "I'm having a heart attack, but I don't have time to have a heart attack, because then I'm going to have to call 911, and go to the hospital, and I have a newborn to take care of, so I'm going to sit here and wait for it to pass." Dumb, dumb, dumb. I know. But I was obviously in shock, and a lot of pain, and mortally tired from having a one month old ;)

    The next couple of attacks were also impossible to miss. I have heard that this is how it is for most people with gallbladder problems. For me it felt like someone was stabbing me, and I was having a heart attack at the same time. Everything I had eaten came back up, I was sweating profusely, pale as death, pain pain pain. They all happened after high fat meals too.

    I didn't want to have surgery because, again, I had a new baby to take care of, but it was the smartest thing I ever did. If it turns out you need it out, get it taken out. That's my humble opinion anyway. Do please go to the doctor and get it checked out. When I finally went to urgent care they took a vial of blood and checked it for some kind of liver enzymes (I think it was) that came back elevated, and that told them to do an ultrasound, which showed stones, and then I had surgery. Definately get it checked. Don't wait for the attacks to come more often.
  5. Sacajawea2

    Sacajawea2 Member

    I sure can relate...trying to rest here but thanks for the replies. I thought I was having a heart attack on Friday..then it went away. Then Saturday I actually went out to dinner (rare for me) and ate at Texas guessed it, steak, baked potato, drank two large cokes...oh and had eaten peanuts before the dinner. I was miserable but have difficulty w/ sitting so just thought it was that and too rich of a dinner.
    I take vicodin on occasion for pain and noticed I was having ribcage and upper back pain (left shoulder blade) and just kept taking it w/ little relief...but the pain is not excrutiating and today I need no pain meds at all. I've been taking it easy all day. It's also hard to bend over, but that's normal for me too..that's why anything "extra" seems so confusing!!!

    My tummy gets upset (you know!) every time I eat nearly...vomited once last week and the "other" nearly every day. I ate Burger King yesterday and felt horrible.

    I've had the extreme pain from attacks in the past (found no gall stones)-- I called it upside down felt like giving birth to something in my upper body but they subsided. Once was from drinking a shot of tequila, once from oysters...gave up alcohol and oysters..that was about 8 years ago. Had a bad attack in 05 while in court for a divorce and tests normal..told me to watch stress and give up coffee, beef, etc...which I gladly did...and it got better. I haven't had a steak in ages and that was probably my last ever!

    I'm under a lot of stress right now-- back in court again so it makes sense that it could be stress. A friend agreed to take me in TONIGHT to the ER if I get worse. The thing is I'm not having that EXTREME pain like you all have described and like what I've had before...for now I'm drinking some gatorade to make up for the fluid loss and will just be eating some plain rice when and if I ever choose to eat again, lol! Don't know what else to eat at the moment.

    I was hoping there might be something I can do that would ward off a worse attack or help prevent this from getting worse. I can't remember anything that I did before! No more burgers, beef or anything greasy from now on, that's for sure!!! The thought of tests or surgery right now is too much!!!

    Thanks you all!

  6. Janalynn

    Janalynn New Member

    I've only had one attack and would not want a second one! Mine was years ago after I ate at Olive Garden, had their Pasta Fagiole soup. Anything rich, fatty (full of fat) or greasy is a BIG NO NO.
    Mom just had hers out last year. She got down to eating pretty bland food until we could figure out what was going on. I remember eating Tums like they were going out of style.

    MY pain felt like I had a large metal rod going from back to front - lower than my shoulder blade, but Mom's was right in her shoulder blade like yours is.

    The Hida scan is super simple. You just lie there. I sat with Mom and talked to her through hers, they put stuff in an IV to make her gallbladder work. We were SO hesitant for her to go through surgery because of a really rough one the year prior, but it was a breeze for her. Laproscopic, was up and around the next day.

    PS her ultrasound shows a large stone. Once removed there wasn't a huge stone, but her gallballadder was not functioning properly - luckily discovered by the HIDA Scan.
  7. Sacajawea2

    Sacajawea2 Member

    Janalynn, you do make that HIDA scan test sound easy enough! I had an ultrasound done four years ago and it revealed no stones. Btw, just seeing the word "greasy" turns me inside out!!!

    I'm actually doing a bit better...went on a totally liquid diet the last few days, which has made a difference. And gave in to complete was hard to even sit up semi relined (pressure and weakenss).

    I'm sort of left wondering now whether or not this was indeed a bug, but I'm going to make an apt. anyway. I never did get the attack pain (other than the heart), but still feel stuffed all the time.

    I did notice a tiny bit of energy come back last night, as I'd been soooo weak lately, more than usual.

    I'm hoping to find out what I can do to avoid surgery or more of this trouble if that's what it is. I can't stay on a liquid diet (have eaten rice and noodles here and there, just a bit).

  8. Rafiki

    Rafiki New Member

    You really needed this, huh? Oym! See your doc no matter whether or not you feel better. No point in guessing what it was.

    Feel better just as soon as you are able!!!

  9. Sacajawea2

    Sacajawea2 Member

    Yes, Rafiki...I will make an appointment for sure! Friends were ready to drag me to the ER a few nights ago. I promised to make an apt. I am doing much better as of yesterday evening and today...friends said they could even hear it in my voice, what a relief! Don't want to deal with that again, as it ruined nearly the entire month of May!

    Olivia-- I was checked for stones a few years ago and had none. I will get it checked out. I was so convinced I had some sort of "bug", as it seems to be going around this neck of the woods but I should've gone in last week or the week before...tsk tsk...I will follow through!


  10. PVLady

    PVLady New Member

    Hi, I had my gallbladder removed 11/06. Prior to that, I am sure I had symptoms for more than 5 years. I went from doctor to doctor and the last one I saw for a few years and went undiagnosed. It was only by luck one doctor ran a simple ultrasound and found I was loaded with gallstones.

    I asked my surgeon how doctors could miss the diagnoses and he said it was very common. They just look for the textbook symptoms. Gallbladder problems can cause all sorts of symptoms and often not at all what they call the classic symptoms. With me, I never had a severe attack but at the end, I was in the ER twice a month with severe nausea. Still my regular doctor did not think to check me for GS.

    When I think back to the suffering, it can be discouraging. I strongly suggest you ask for a ultrasound to rule out gallstones. My other symptom was aching behind my right shoulder blade area (off and on).

    I believe the gallbladder problem really aggravated the fibro pain and hurt my digestive system.

    Good luck
  11. lovemykennedy

    lovemykennedy New Member

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  12. sheridragonfly

    sheridragonfly New Member

    Here is how I felt for 8 years before I figured out it was my gallbladder..
    l. get an ultrasound..they can see the stones if you have them
    or even perhaps the gallbladder..
    I had stones..a few...

    2. I decided to get mine out..because
    when I ate fried foods, pizza or just about anything
    other than totally bland food, I would get nauseated,

    and if it was bad nausea then I would be so sick I would
    try to throw up to get rid of the reeling nausea...gagging
    nausea.. Later as it got worse I had 3 attacks...late at night
    and had sharp pains in the right chest area...and even broke out in a sweat.. I would sit over a small trash can for hours when I got nauseated.

    I had it out laproscopic ...and took it easy for 10 days..
    no lifting and rested..I feel much better with it out!
    I wish I had done it years ago, but the doctor never
    seemed to think it was the gallbladder since I have IBS
    and a lot of other things wrong like mcs, fibro, cfs, and dystonia ...

    I do use probiotics, one that is enteric coated and has 6 strains
    in it, 10 billion live per capsule when it leaves their plant..
    I refrigerate them...they never make me sick..they help me.
    I use IFlora by Sedona a day..
    I also use Fem Dolphilus by Jarrow one a day...
    keep both air tight and refrigerated..
    Does this help?
  13. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    I had chronic digestive problems the regular docs were helpless with. They didn't know what was wrong. I stumbled upon a chiropractor who did muscle testing (a specific type called Contact Reflex Analysis) and he found the problem within minutes, an inflamed gallbladder. He gave me something called AF Betafood by Standard Process, and it worked great. I thereafter learned I had to take digestive enzymes with hydrochloric acid, and since that time have had no serious digestive problems. I eat well - a mix of hard to digest food (like meat and other proteins) and vegetables, fruit etc. and a little grain. I also ended up having to do a liver detox, which was the final piece of the puzzle.

    So - first, there are times when a gallbladder is in such bad shape that immediate surgery is necessary. However, it takes awhile to get to this point, and before that happens, if a person cleans up their diet, and maybe starts taking digestive enzymes with HCL, they may not need gallbladder surgery. I highly recommend seeing a chiropractor who does muscle testing. If you call Standard Process (google it and you'll get a customer service number), they'll give you names of practitioners in your area who do it.

    Here is a very informative blurb about AF Betafood I posted quite awhile ago. I know the Betafood saved my gallbladder:

    Here is something I downloaded earlier today about AF Betafood by Standard Process. My chiropractor gave this to me several years ago and it worked fabulously when my gallbladder was inflamed. I had to take about 15 tablets a day (they're small) for about a week, then around 9 a day for another week and then maybe 6 a day for another week. It may seem like a lot, but it was well worth it, it works so well.

    I also discovered that to prevent future gallbladder problems, I needed to take digestive enzymes with hydrochloric acid, and since that time, my digestive has been very much improved. I rarely have problems with my gallbladder now (less than once a year) [it has since been a few years since any problem] and when I do, I take AF Betafood and everything clears up again. Many chiropractors carry Standard Process products and also a website sells them. And here's the info:

    AF Betafood

    If you have gall bladder problems then AF Betafood may be your one way trip to health, vitality and keeping your gall bladder. If, after consuming consuming a meal heavy in fats, you begin to burp almost immediately, this means you have gall bladder malfunction and your metabolism is more than likely deficient.

    Today, doctors are recommending people have their gall bladders removed when the people who signs of gall bladder stress or disease. Here is what really happens. People have metabolism problems. As a result the bodily functions begin to mis-function. When certain foods are consumed that require adequate gall bladder function, we can have signs that the gall bladder is not in a position to do its job accurately. Let us consider this mis-firing of the gall bladder function. Do we destroy the symptom of the metabolism or do we correct the metabolism problem that caused the gall bladder to mis-fire in the first place. Do you think removal of the gall bladder corrects the metabolism problem? Of course not! but correcting the metabolism problem provides us with sick gall bladder relief.

    Let us observe the function of bile. Bile has a number of functions. Bile breaks down the fat in food. Bile emulsifies the fat in the digestive system. Bile works to help eliminate toxins from the body. Here is an example of how bile helps: Say you are painting and breath the fumes and the chemicals associated with paint and fumes. The fumes and associated chemicals are drawn into your lungs as you breath. From the lungs, the chemicals are picked up by the blood and carried to the liver. As we all know, the liver works as a filter just like the filter used in keep oil clean in the automobile. The liver proceeds to dump the chemicals from the paint into the bile from the gall bladder. The gall bladder then dumps the bile containing the chemicals into the intestines for elimination.

    The most important thing to understand is that the bile is your aid in removal of toxins from the body. But when the bile gets thick like cream this means the fat metabolism is malfunctioning. Bile must be thin to do it's job correctly. Cataplex F and Cataplex A thin the bile and Betafood flushes the bile route.
    Standard Process puts together the three complexes to make AF Betafood. Therefore, you need one instead of three bottles of product to help keep your bile flowing properly and possibly forego the serious problems related to malfunctioning fat metabolism.

    As you may have already guessed, AF Betafood also takes a serious stress from the liver as well as the gall bladder. The gall bladder functions properly and the liver is able to continue doing its job in relation to it's relationship to the gall bladder correctly as well .

    Indredients: Carrot powder, vacuum dried beet leaf juice, beet powder, honey, oat flour, calcium lactate, defatted wheat germ, magnesium citrate, vacuum dried bovine prostate, nutritional yeast, bovine liver powder, vacuum dried bovine kidney, alfalfa meal, vitamin A esters, arabic and cellulose gum, bovine orchic glandular extract, calcium stearate, bovine liver fat extract, flaxseed oil extract, prolamine iodine, ascorbic acid, pyridoxal 5-phosphate, mixed tocopherols, and soy bean lecithin.

    Two tablets supply 170 mg Vacuum Dried Beet Leaf Juice and Beet Powder and 130 mg Carrot Powder.
  14. butterflydream

    butterflydream New Member

    Anyone with gall bladder problems ever feel like, when you bend over a bulge in upper right rib cage that is painful and can feel the bulge moving?

    i do have appt. in 2 weeks wondering if anyone has had what i described?


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