Discussion in 'Spirituality/Worship' started by MIssAutumn, Jul 6, 2007.

  1. MIssAutumn

    MIssAutumn New Member

    here's todays Oswald Chambers message and why I read his devotionl and one of teaching subjects and or sermons every day. Maybe you can see if you;d like to read him, too. You can find his daily devotional on line. He is so different than anyone I've read and certainly does not sugar coat being one of God's electives and will not abide any excuses. I read somewhere that any reading we do should leads us straight to the Bible, the writing should glorify Our Lord and not ourselves.


    "Enter ye in at the strait gate . . because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way. . ." Matthew 7:13-14

    If we are going to live as disciples of Jesus, we have to remember that all noble things are difficult. The Christian life is gloriously difficult, but the difficulty of it does not make us faint and cave in, it rouses us up to overcome. Do we so appreciate the marvellous salvation of Jesus Christ that we are our utmost for His highest?

    God saves men by His sovereign grace through the Atonement of Jesus; He works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure; but we have to work out that salvation in practical living. If once we start on the basis of His Redemption to do what He commands, we find that we can do it. If we fail, it is because we have not practised. The crisis will reveal whether we have been practising or not. If we obey the Spirit of God and practise in our physical life what God has put in us by His Spirit, then when the crisis comes, we shall find that our own nature as well as the grace of God will stand by us.

    Thank God He does give us difficult things to do! His salvation is a glad thing, but it is also a heroic, holy thing. It tests us for all we are worth. Jesus is bringing many "sons" unto glory, and God will not shield us from the requirements of a son. God's grace turns out men and women with a strong family likeness to Jesus Christ, not milk sops. It takes a tremendous amount of discipline to live the noble life of a disciple of Jesus in actual things. It is always necessary to make an effort to be noble.

    God's Peace, Sarah

  2. getridof

    getridof New Member

    Thank you for your message. I'll try to search Oswald Chambers on the internet.
    I understand the idea of difficulties. I just worry I may go to the wrong way or make wrong decision when facing difficulties, as I'm not familiar with the Bible. Hope I can grow in spirit.

    By the way someone recommends me "The Alpha Course". Anyone knows that? Is it good for beginner?
  3. MIssAutumn

    MIssAutumn New Member

    These are just a few quotes from Nicky Gumbel the director of the Alpha Course. The American director Todd Hunter is in agreementwith the Renovare movement.
    These were copied from the internet but I also doubled checked with the brochures on alpha Course.
    The Bible:
    “There are moral problems with the
    Bible, there are [also] historical
    problems” [Talk 5]
    “Scripture cannot be broken” (John 10:35);
    “The words of the LORD are pure words”
    (Psa. 12:6-7). See also John 17:17.
    “God has given us his guide book”
    [Talk 5]
    "The things that I write unto you are the
    commandments of the Lord” (1 Cor.
    14:37). See also Psa. 19:7; 119:1ff etc.

    “Common sense [rather than the
    Bible!] is the way … God will direct
    us over … the big decisions” [Talk 7]

    “‘Hell … [is an] empty town’” [Talk
    Whosoever was not found written in the
    book of life was cast into the lake of fire”
    (Rev. 20:15; see also 20:10 & 21:8).

    “‘All hell is smaller than one pebble
    … smaller than one atom’” [Talk 11]
    road is the way, that leadeth to destruction,
    and many there be which go in thereat”
    (Matt. 7:13). See also Matt. 20:16.
    “[For] those who reject the gospel,
    it will be a day of destruction” [Talk
    13] – implying quick annihilation
    “[T]hese shall go away into everlasting
    punishment” (Matt. 25:46). See also Mark
    9:43-48; Jude 1:7; Rev. 14:11; 20:10; 2

    No one "knows" all the Bible and if they say they do they are being deceived. The Holy Spirit will give you knowledge as you are ready to receive it.

    One study Bible I really like is Thompson's Chain Reference, it does not have man opinion written down but on the margins is cross references to identical verses in the Bible, if they aren't there and I still dont understand I pray on it and the Holy Spirit in time will allow my understanding.

    Just keep praying to our Lord, He'll answer. I was terrified of being deceived and was sick to heart of all the deception out there. I checked out one of the berean websites and saw a book there by a very peopular author/minister that I know is teaching a false doctrine. That's when God sent me on His jurney of finding this wide-spread deception out. It has been absolutley an incredible journey!!

    God's Peace