Have CFS and weighing vaccinations for my baby

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia and ME & Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' started by skychomper, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. skychomper

    skychomper New Member

    Hey everyone, I haven't posted in many years, but this board has been such a blessing and i hope i was able to be of help when i had something to say! now I have a baby and I need a lot of help! For those with children, did you worry about vaccinating them, like if the genetic component/susceptibility would make them more vulnerable to adverse reactions or damage? If genes are loading the gun as they say, i dont want a shot to pull the trigger! Its so daunting and makes me so anxious to even think about it. can you guys share your experiences one way or the other? thank you so much! (my case started after mono.)

    Hugs,
    Skychomper
  2. MicheleK

    MicheleK Moderator

    Hi Skychomper, nice to meet you.

    I don't have a baby, but I do have a grandbaby. His parents are both in the medical field and were concerned with vaccination overload and autism, as well as the entire spectrum, since it is so prevelant these days in boys especially.

    What they did was to break the vaccinations up. They did not allow their child to get them all at once. They also did not allow the Hepatisis shot they are pushing now.

    My grandson has the vaccines spaced apart and he has done fine.

    It really is a personal decision and one has to weigh the other side of the equation as to what can happen to your child if you do not vaccinate them.

    I hope some others will have some experience to share with you on this subject.

    Hugs back,
    MicheleK
  3. jole

    jole Member

    Many in our family in the health field, and our kids also split up the shots with their little ones. Good grief, if you let them, they'll give up to 6 different vaccinations at once, which to me is asking for trouble big time!

    My kids have occasionally had a fight on their hands with this issue, but remember you're still the parent, and there's nothing wrong with spacing them out. My daughters also refused a couple of the shots for their little ones, especially the new ones. If they're 'forced' to get them later they will, but not for now.

    I completely feel some of these vaccinations are unnecessary, and cause as many complications as they do good. Just my opinion.
  4. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    My daughter has a great doc who doesn't believe in giving all those shots together. In fact, she didn't get a couple of the shots which aren't as vital. The others were given separately over a longer period. So far, DGS has been very healthy.

    There are ways to protect kids/babies without overvaccinating them. I think there are more and more docs who are willing to work with moms and dads on this.

    Love, Mikie
  5. harrysmom

    harrysmom Member

    On the flip side of the coin....in response to your statement "it is really a personal decision and one has to weigh the other side of the equation as to what can happen to your child if you do not vaccinate them". Please consider also the consequences for the other children /people that your unvaccinated child comes in contact with. Chicken pox and measles and mumps can have deadly consequences and some states have had epidemics recently because parents insist on not vaccinating their children.

    Harrysmom
  6. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    admissions dept and 2 families did NOT vaccinate, they were both from holistic MD's, and their children seemed to be the healthiest on campus.

    On the other hand, a little boy 10 and his father was a conventonal MD, this poor kid was on Ritilin and talking to him one day, he said he took prozac before he left for school...he was a zombie, made me angry to see what these drugs were doing to this boy....I have no clue about him today, he'd be 20something...

    I don't trust so much of the medical society...[This Message was Edited on 12/07/2012]
  7. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    about all these vaccines, if I had a baby today, I would surely seek out a holistic oriented peditrician and go from there...that's my thoughts....I know of 2 in our local area where I live. Tried to convince my daughter to see one of them when she had her children, but she stayed with her insurance and went with a general ped....I don't think they overloaded the 2 kids though.

    When I was born 74 yrs ago we did so few vaccines....today, it's unreal what they are pushing on these babies.


    Another friend's grandgirl just had a baby and her peditrician wants to feed the baby MOTHERS MILK only for a year...no food or water.... I never heard this one but things do change. I don't know about the vaccine issue there....baby's immune system keeps strong mothers milk...they were even concerned about having a child since the father has Type 1 diabetes and extreme Celiac. So this could be part of the factor. [This Message was Edited on 12/07/2012]
  8. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    friend, their little boy is 1.5 yrs give or take.

    ((We have not vaccinated our son. I don't know if we will choose to do one or two when he is older, but we decided against them for now and certainly would not be getting many later anyway. So our routine is none. :)

    Hope that helps. As for the vaccine thing, I liked Dr. Sears book. It presented both sides of the argument instead of being pro- or anti-vaccine which so many books are from what I found. It is a very personal, very stressful, very complicated decision. You just have to research as much as you can and come to a decision you feel comfortable with and know you are making the right decision based on the information you have. It's not an easy one. If it was everyone would make the same choice.))

    So this is a recent mother's choice on vaccines...
  9. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    They focused on the mercury preservative in the vaccines. Then the mercury was removed. In my mind that's a good thing but I don't think that's the main issue; it's too many vaccines all at once. My DGS took none of the combined vaccines. They were given separately.

    Autism now occurs in 1 in 110 baby boys. We really need to find out what is causing this. Not every one of them has severe autism but even those with Asperger's who are high functioning are unacceptable.

    Love, Mikie
  10. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    so many reasons on the autism, the most recent one is the over use of ultrasounds while a woman is carrying a child. These ultra sounds have really been HUGE in the last 10-15 yrs as I recall....

    This young mother who gave me her comments, was so paranoid about the medical world, she did NOT want to know the sex of her child, she opted for a home water birth and all went very well for her and baby son...and father.
  11. jole

    jole Member

    Mikie, your thinking and mine are exactly the same. Jam, the reason my grands are taking the immunizations is that they can't go to school without them. It's the law. I hate that the government has the power to remove parent's rights, but they did (and do). I agree that some immunizations may be necessary to protect others in this tight-knit world, but they come up with all these new ones that are just nonsense.

    Some young parents don't know they still have a choice, at least to space them out over a longer time. But it's not an option to refuse them and expect your child to be able to attend school. At least not here. They check the immunization records closer than anything here.
  12. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    I went to 1st grade, no K in my days, we got our vaccination just before entering school, so that was 5 yrs of age or so, maybe 6. Today, they are pumping up the babies in the hospitals when they are born.....this compromises the immune systems before they are developed.

    Parents can sign off NOT to immunize, parents don't know this obviously. It was this way in the school I worked at anyway.

    There are some that I believe are necessary. But overloading those babies, is wrong.



    Granted it's a whole new world today, babies are going into day care, preschool, etc at very young ages, some go in when they are a few months old.....[This Message was Edited on 12/10/2012]
  13. skychomper

    skychomper New Member

    My daughter is 5 months old and so far has not had any shots. I'm nursing her and plan to for at least another month if not a full year. So fa she has only had one little cold. I think there are too many shots. Given too close together, and too early. I understand that it's to provide some protection to the very young for who if there are complications from the disease it can be bad, but the ingredients, and the way they subvert the body natural defenses bothers me. The fact that it took them till the 90's to remove mercury and only after public outcry tells me that no one is really looking out for our children. And the chicken pox and mmr viruses both have live viruses which I thought was a major problem with the polio vaccine. There are a lot of reports of disease outbreak where 95% of the kids had been vaccinated. Which sucks! Kids can also shed the virus for a few weeks after getting the shot so maybe that is one way that the particluar disease is entering the community.

    On the other hand, My mom told me and my sister that we both had an extremely bad case of chicken pox, my sister having seizures from it, and she believes that's when her immune problems started, she doesn't have CFS like me but an antibody deficiency and is constantly on antibiotics. We were both fully vaccinated, though they didn't have the chicken pox one yet, obviously.

    When I had my daughter, they were not going to ask my permission to give her hep b, In the middle of labor I suddenly realized this - i planned on a birth center birth - and told them I didn't want it, and I had to sign a waiver for them NOT to do it. it should be the other way around !!

    Thank you all for replying, it's good to hear all the different takes and observations on it. Also Makes me want to find out about mito damage or defect in myself after hearing the Hannah poling case where it was decided that a vaccine triggered her autism as a result of the underlying defect. Oof. Of mice and men!
  14. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    you should NOT have to sign a waiver to NOT get the hep b vaccine.....forcing these vaccines, is like the forced medication of fluoride in our public waters, another case of being forced into this toxin in our waters.

    I listen to an MD, very holistic minded on weekends and he always says, the "alternative" healing should be the mainstream healing avenues and conventional allopathic should be alternative.....I can't agree more.

  15. mjj3

    mjj3 New Member

    We also spread our youngest's out and that was because he already was at high risk for sensory issues and adhd as he was premature and a very sick premie at that-he had quit moving in utero at 7 months along and went to doc and he was born by emergency c-section that day in heart failure, kidney failure, on ventilator-he is 7 yrs old has sensory issues, adhd and aspergers, but his are stemming from his medically fragile birth. We have stopped getting flu shots, holding on boosters-they were pushing a couple of new shots on our 11 yr old this summer and I asked the doc reason for the meningitis shot and he said was more for college kids in dorm-like environments-we passed until our child was more in that type of environment. I think the important thing is to research, ask questions and be an informed consumer. My sister-in-law waited on some shots until the kids were over 1 yrs old which decreased the amount they were given. Our youngest had his hair tested and his aluminium readings were off the charts the mercury is removed but there are many adjuvants in those shots our kids bodies have to process. Also, make sure your child is well when they get them. Some docs like to get them in when your in for something else like ear infection or your child may have a cold when due for shots-pass as will only more overwhelm their immune system. Good luck in your decision-I am feeling guilty enough about passing on the kids flu shots again this year, but more at ease when I told their pediatrician that I was not happy that they dumped the H1N1 in with it and he didn't argue, but said that they were most likely removing it in the future.
    Kim