Help,SEVERE fatigue. I have fibro/cfs. Currently take antidepr. I don't feel like doing anything

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by mbungert, Feb 15, 2014.

  1. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Paul - I watched one of the faster eft videos the other day. It's interesting. I've seen several of Gary Craig's videos. I do think EFT can help with emotional blockages, but am not convinced of its role in helping with physical illness. However, I don't think there's any harm in trying it. I've used EFT on myself and found it a little helpful for emotional issues.

    A few years ago I did EFT over the phone with a woman trained in the technique. I liked her very much. However, the sessions wore me out (I have CFS) and I ended up crashing. I guess one could adapt the sessions to their tolerance level.

    EFT is being used successfully with war veterans and PTSD. Another exceptional technique for PTSD is EMDR, best done with a trained therapist. It is very effective for trauma and other issues and works much more quickly than traditional talking therapy alone.

    Having said all this, I am going to try out the "faster eft" technique on my own, am curious about it.

    Thanks for posting -

  2. Paul1950

    Paul1950 Member

    Hi Mary,

    I am glad to know that you have had former experience with EFT. There is quite a difference in the two techniques, and I have had tremendous success with a blend of the two together. If you did watch video 731, it certainly did change that woman's life for good. If you stick to this, you will beat it, and yes, it does take some time and energy. If I may suggest something that can help you getting of to a good start, is that you start using it first to combat your low energy. Once you overcome that one, then the rest would be easier.

    Oh yes, and it is also very important to drink lots of water, to flush the toxins out of your body, once you start with the process. Sometimes people might feel worse once they started with the process, and that is a good sign, for this means that the body has reacted well and healing is underway.

    If you need any help or further guidance, also have a look at the new Golden Standard EFT tutorial on Gary Craig's website.

    I wish you all the best and take care.

  3. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Thanks for the suggestions Paul. It's not really low energy that's my problem - it's "post-exertional malaise" - crushing fatigue that hits some 16 to24 hours after exertion. So I can have a relatively good day, but have to stop after 3 to 4 hours of light exertion - otherwise I crash the next day. But in any event I could try the faster eft on the crashing.

    I'm really glad to hear that the faster eft helped you so much! Whatever works, that doesn't harm us or cost too much ....

    Best wishes,

  4. Paul1950

    Paul1950 Member

    Hi Mary,

    Our bodies are driven by our subconscious mind and is functioning on autopilot and hence it don't make a distinction between events from the past or the present, and even if you exert yourself only for a little while, it would out of habit react to the same patterns and written traces. The key here is to find that trace to the pattern that triggers the process and then remove that. That key could be a memory of anything like fear, sadness, pain, trauma (physical and emotional) or sometime a total unrelated item of which we don't even have a conscious memory of. A suggestion would be that you do a daily tap after any exertion on the emotions that might come up if you think about the forthcoming crash, and then tap on that.

    There is a great great video to help you get started by Grace Jones, No 31 on the Faster Eft website in the Fibromyalgia section. It is a good way to get you started of if you do a tap along while watching and then just do a few rounds on whatever you feel right for you. I would also address the subconscious fear for the"crash" and see what happens.

    Best wishes and God bless

  5. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Hi Paul - I think we just don't know enough about the causes of CFS or FM etc. to say with any certainty that they are caused by our subconscious. There may be a role the subconscious plays in all this but we just don't know. If someone swallowed a bunch of rat poison, I don't think the solution would be for them to do tapping. People wouldn't start talking about the subconscious as playing a role in poisoning. If someone has AIDS or another communicable disease, I don't know if tapping would be of benefit either. But since the origins of CFS/ME and FM are unknown, many people are very quick to ascribe subconscious factors as causation.

    I don't think my crashing is due to patterns and traces. Something is wrong with energy production in my body. It seems to be in constant anaerobic mode which is extremely inefficient. I have a very limited window of activity each day and if I exceed that window, I crash.

    Tapping may be of benefit, but I just don't know, but I'm willing to try. If nothing else, it may help with some emotional issues I'm dealing with. But I'm afraid I don't like the certainty with which you address the subconscious and illness. We just don't know enough.

  6. Paul1950

    Paul1950 Member

    Hi Mary, I would agree to a certain extend that tapping certainly would not be helpful in some cases. I fully agree with you that your crashes is not caused by patterns and thoughts, it is just the other way around. Everything that happens in or to the body does have a cause, and a reaction. The reaction becomes a learned response and the subconscious mind then creates a pattern or trace which is recorded. From thereon, the reaction would always be the same if that pattern or trace is activated. The subconscious mind in itself does not create the disease, and there could be any amount of other unknown factors that is responsible for that. The purpose of tapping is to eliminate the trace or the pattern and replace that with a suitable trace that will in fact start the healing process. Though any disease or physical or emotional trauma usually have a cause that can be explained, we must bear in mind, that the disease in itself causes emotional trauma, like stress, pain, fear, hopelessness and whatever feelings a person might experience.

    Our bodies is constantly in a stage of fight or flight syndrome, depending on our surroundings and circumstances. Some of us are fortunate that our subconscious mind can sense rather quickly when it safe for the body to relax and then send a signal signal to the brain to either increase or reduce certain chemicals to do so. For some people the subconscious mind is not sending that signal to the brain and our bodies remain most of the time in fight mode, with the adrenal glands working overtime and we stay under constant stress, which makes it difficult for the body to heal itself. Did you know that it has been proven that you can regulate your blood sugar levels by just doing one or two rounds of EFT?

    I know and acknowledge the fact that we still have to learn a lot about the influence of the mind on the body, and even the pharmaceutical companies had to admit that the placebo effect does exist, as it had been proven in many clinical trials. EFT is a relative new science, and it does get its fair share of negative critique, as it is so expected. Most of the established professions like medical doctors, psychiatrists and the major pharmaceutical companies feel threatened by it, for the simple reason is that is is slowly getting recognized as an alternative method to combat a lot of conditions, previously thought to be incurable. A good example of one such thing is hay fever that brought on by allergies. In the years I had my clinic, I had seen many allergies just vanished within a matter of 20 minutes, and I once had a local radio station broadcasted a live tapping session for a women with gluten allergy, which has been resolved completely without any medication. We have a simple motto.....EFT, try it on anything, you have nothing to loose.

    Take care

  7. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Paul - I agree, try EFT on anything. I sent a link to my sister who tried it on an emotional issue and thinks it helped. I have no idea what it can or cannot do for CFS, but yes, it won't hurt to try. I think I'll leave it at that! :)

  8. satya99

    satya99 Member

    I was simply asking you for your personal experience and again you answer with a website with over 700 videos, that is nor simple nor fast nor personal. You keep making claims and all I wanted to know was what you personally did that made you feel the enormous difference in your body in one hour only that you are mentioning and what was the difference you felt.
  9. satya99

    satya99 Member

    It's great to share what you learned so that it might be helpful to some others but noone is served by having the attitude that since it worked for you, or others it's up to us to make the same choice to be happy and healthy too. That's just hurtful. Not everyone is cured by the same method. People on here are very experienced in following all kinds of treatments and methods based on mindset as well as any other possible treatments. Just share the method and your personal experience instead of making claims about it that make it sound as if there is something wrong with everyone elses mindset because you are 'cured' and we are not.
  10. satya99

    satya99 Member

    I know all of this is strange and new to you, and I appreciate that you still have an open mind to explore new ways to better and improve your health. You will see that the process is simple and the relieve of your symptoms is quick and unbelievable. Also bear in mind that hidden emotions might show up and that your healing can be compared like that of peeling away layers of paint to get to the wood underneath it. Just keep at it. In my years that I worked with EFT, I have never seen failure. You have only 5 meridean points on your body that you will work on which covers all the organs in your body. the power of this technique not only lies in the simplicity, but also in the fact that you have to keep at it till all your symptoms are gone.
  11. satya99

    satya99 Member

    I agree, try EFT on anything. I sent a link to my sister who tried it on an emotional issue and thinks it helped. I have no idea what it can or cannot do for CFS, but yes, it won't hurt to try. I think I'll leave it at that! :)
  12. satya99

    satya99 Member

    The purpose of tapping is to eliminate the trace or the pattern and replace that with a suitable trace that will in fact start the healing process. Though any disease or physical or emotional trauma usually have a cause that can be explained, we must bear in mind, that the disease in itself causes emotional trauma, like stress, pain, fear, hopelessness and whatever feelings a person might experience.
  13. Alyssa-Admin

    Alyssa-Admin Active Member

    I know that EFT has helped a lot of people, and hey, it's free!) :)

    There are so many things that a functional medicine or integrative medicine doctor can do in regards to investigations and testing.

    I apologise, I haven't read everyone's posts (it's early Sunday morning!!). So these things might have already been mentioned previously. Have you had bloods for magnesium, b12, vitamin D deficiencies? Potassium? Most of us (and I'm talking about the western world) are deficient particularly with magnesium. However, I know many fibro friends who get a B12 shot every three to four weeks. She says she can tell when she's due because of the fatigue, lethargy and brain fog. Perhaps something to scope out. For me, my test results came back with low vitamin D, (which we can get from the sun... No surprises there ad we live in Scotland... Home of rain, wind, bleak, and in winter months just Damn depressing. So I use a SAD lamp. Every day. I also take magnesium Malate (as that coats the muscle and nerve ending fibres). I also take LDN.

    And, Erm, if you haven't noticed, Prohealth does sell supplements specifically designed for FM and CFS. Why not look at the products they have had especially created for helping you with everything from giving you more energy, sleeping better... Loads.

    As well there is quite a bit of information about Methylation and mitochondrial repair as a starting point. Maybe call Prohealth tomorrow, as apparently their people on the phone are very, very up to date on their products and might be able to suggest a few things for you. (And no, I don't work for them... I volunteer on the forums that's all!). The thing is, you Do have choices in regards to trying different things to see if they make a difference. For myself, I've pretty much stepped away from our medical system and am going it alone to try to make a difference in my life. I know that I'm probably never going to be as healthy as I was (in saying this, I'm sure I've had fibro since my early teens and my mother has it. (She only told me this a few years ago... And when I looked into it, it was like a lightning flash of realising it's not all in my head!). Thing is, many of the meds they prescribe have a sedative effect for many people... So obviously, that won't be helping things either.

    All I can tell you is that you can step outside the box and look at other options that western doctors not only won't or prescribe, chances are they don't even know about them! I regularly send articles that are of relevance to my GP. She knows that I'm pretty much flying solo in regards to my medical treatment, but... I think she is also a bit intrigued and impressed, because I refuse to let this condition take over my life!!

    So. Blood tests for deficiencies, LDN ... Info at (I just saw a graph the other day showing that LDN leads the way in regards to helping people with fibro... And perhaps a call to Prohealth... At least look at their supplements. (They've been in business for 25 yrs and are a very trusted company and brand of supplements designed specifically for us).

    All I can say is that there ARE options!

    Do some research. Read on here about mitochondrial repair and also Methylation. There are quite a few knowledgeable people on here who are always happy to help. I hope you have a good Sunday. X