Mikie found this note regarding herxes. I'm wondering if any of their suggested detox remedies seems reasonable with regard to herxing viruses. (I've only had experience with herxing yeast in the past.) * Has anyone ever had lymphatic massage? If so, how was it? * It seems to me that most viruses would be departing through the bloodstream rather than the intestinal tract and that therefore the digestive suggestions (e.g. colonics, clay, also the activatedd charcoal that I've used for yeast) wouldn't be appropriate here. Am I wrong? * I've been drinking lots and lots of water, and have continued to take 6000 mg of vitamin C (EmergenC form) per day. I've been eating lightly (it feels like I have the flu in that I don't want much food anyway) and have been keeping regular. * I've been using my steam shower but am not sure whether it's helped. * Do you think Epsom salt baths would help with this kind of toxin? * Has anyone heard of this Detox Offset stuff? Thanks Mikie! (And thanks everyone!) Dr. Wilson: Herxheimer or “Die Off” Reaction In the 1890s, two dermatologists, Karl Herxheimer and Adolph Jerisch defined a cluster of symptoms that are now known as a Herxheimer or “die off” reaction. Herxheimer symptoms resemble flu symptoms: chills, fever, body aches, headaches, and rashes. They occur as a result of therapies that kill “bugs” such as bacteria, viruses, or, yeast. The symptoms usually occur from four to 24 hours after taking a drug or other therapies that kill the “bugs.” The symptoms are not side effects of a therapy, per se, but are proof of both the effectiveness of the therapy and the existence of an infection, as it is the toxins that are released from dying organisms that result in Herxheimer symptoms. The load of toxins can be so great that the body’s natural detoxification processes can’t keep up with the toxin load. Natural support of the body’s detoxification processes is recommended. Drink plenty of water and get light exercise. Avoid constipation and eat a light diet. Consider getting lymphatic massage or colonics. Take internal-grade absorbent clay to absorb toxins from the digestive tract, Epsom Salt baths, Vitamin C, and GSMC’s Detox Offset, a homeopathic remedy formulated to treat detoxification symptoms. The dose and frequency of the drug or therapy that resulted in Herxheimer symptoms can often be adjusted to slow toxin release so as to not overwhelm the body’s detoxification ability.