Homeschooling - I am thinking about it....do any of you? Help Pls

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by lumediluna, Mar 6, 2003.

  1. lumediluna

    lumediluna New Member

    I was wondering if any of you homeschool your children? I have been thinking about it for a few months and my husband doesn't think I can do it...and with FM going on? I think I can, maybe even do more than I do at school even though I participate in both classes.
    Anyway, so I want to see if any of you do it. I have no idea how to start it, when to start and how I go about it?

    If you homeschool your children, can you please answer these questions to help my research and understanding....I really appreciate it.

    ~ Questions ~

    1. How old were your children when you started to homeschool them and how old are they now?

    2. What made you decide to do it?

    3. What are the benefits in your opinion homeschooling vs. school?

    4. Was your family supportive?

    5. Do you get special text books for learning materials?

    There are many more, but any of your input would be
    greatly appreciated.

    [This Message was Edited on 07/15/2003]
  2. j-bearmama

    j-bearmama New Member

    YES you can homeschool!

    In fact I have found it helps my fms. I don't stress over WHO my son is around or WHAT he is being taught.

    We started homeschooling in 1st grade. My son did go to public school for Kindergarten, although I did not want this, my husband insisted we "give the public schools a chance."

    My son is now in 4th grade and working at a 5th-6th grade level in most subjects, but is reading at highschool level.

    Trust me, it's hard to find highschool kids that read at highschool level around here.

    Why I decided to homeschool is a rather long list; to make a long story short...

    1. My son has always been academically ahead of his peers and the schools REFUSE to challenge the brighter students. They say it is "not fair" to the slow kids because their feelings are hurt when they see a child succeeding at a high level" (sounds like a bunch of B.S. to me!)

    2. The schools interfere severely with our family values and Christian values. ( Is it REALLY necessary to teach kindergarten students about gay people? WHY do they teach kids about HOW people have sex as young as 4th grade???
    And the text books used in my disctrict ACTUALLY teach that abortion is "just another birth control option", and this is taught at the middle school level!)

    3. My husband is military and taking "leave" for family trips are hard to coordinate with the school's vacation schedule.

    4. We enjoy many family activities like fishing, camping, and hunting. THe times of year that we do these things are in conflict with the public school scedule.
    Also when my son was in Kindergarten my husband planned a squirrel hunting trip. We brought in a note a few days in advance. ( it was for columbus day and my husband was off work, but there was still school.)
    I was called to come into the office to "discuss his upcoming absence" when I came in they pulled my son from class to inform HIM that his parents were evil barbarians and subjecting him to a life of murderous rage by taking him hunting. My son was in tears and if he had NOT been there I would have jumped over the principal's desk to choke her! Incedently, while she was barating me on the evils of hunting she was eating a ham sandwich. ( I guess that little piggy died of natural causes???)

    We did take him hunting and had to explain the merits of conservation and the fact that wild game is untainted and healthier and that being part cherokee it was a "cultural thing" as well as a long standing family tradition.

    (by the way this past fall our son bagged 2 six point bucks, not bad for a 9 year old!)

    5. I know my son's learning styles, and his strengths and weaknesses, and can taylor the teaching around what works best for him.
    We can go indepth on subjects that he is passionate about. And we can spend extra time on things he doesn't "get" right away. If he didn't understand a math concept for example, we can spend an extra week or more if needed. In public school you have to continue at the same pace as the teacher decides. That's why so many kids fall behind. We NEVER move forward on a topic until the skill is MASTERED, failure is NOT an option. I think I retaught fractions 3 times in 1st grade, now my son looks at things and makes up fractions within them ( such as geometric shapes.. yeah he's a tad nerdy ).

    6. As for school books, there are a MILLION web sites that offer tons of info on homeschooling and supplies. Just type in homeschool in the search engine and you will get TONS of info. I highly recomend you get in touch with some local homeschoolers and see if you can check out their books, and get some advice from them about different products. Homeschooling can be as CHEAP or expensive as you want it to be.

    7. I'm sure you will here lots of "what about socialization"
    well, my son has neighborhood kids to play with, sunday school friends, and absolutely loves his boy scout stuff.

    Besides, when it comes to kids socializing in school... don't the teacher always yell at the kids for talking in class? Lunch is only 20 minutes, and recess is about 30. NOT a lot of time to socialize in that time frame.
    Also the kids who "don't fit in" don't get any socializing.
    Remember the mean teasing in school? Homeschools don't have that, well, except for siblings. I finally got sick of defending my reasons for homeschooling and began answering the "what about socialization" question with " We do not believe in socialism, we are captialistic Americans. ( that usually shuts them up pretty quick!)
    8. Last, but certainly not least, I believe that the bible DOES indeed tell parents that they are soley responsible for the teaching of children. The bible tells us also that we, as parents are NOT to entrust our children to strangers, and that we should not let our children be with those of questionable character. ( such as the kindergarten boy that told the teacher to F off!, and ALL the teacher said was "we don't talk like that at school dear" I was there that day, and nearly had a heart attack, I told the teacher that I was planning to help with the class for the day but now felt that I MUST take my son home and told her that she was obligated to 20 parents to make certain such a thing NEVER happened again... she said "whatever" and we left.)

    If you would like to email me directly for more info and that much needed support we homeschool mom's need ( and fms support as well!) you can reach me at i8bambi@charter.net

    Some HIGHLY suggested reading for you that will help you with this decision as well as help inform others who will surely try to disuade you are:
    Homeschooling: The Right Choice by Christopher Klicka
    Mary Pride writes a series of homeschool books, full of ideas and also contact info for supplies, and support.

    there are TONS of other books and I just can't recall titles right now.
    Hit the library, they will have TONS.

    Just remember that when you fill out your forms for the school district that you are TELLING them that you are homeschooling, you are NOT asking permission. and NEVER EVER EVER give them more info that you are legally required to do.

    Please check out hslda.org for the list of state laws.
    hslda stands for home school legal defense association.
    You may want to become a member. Although I am not a member, if you live in an area that has a superintendent that just hates homeschoolers, you may need it. Many times they will harrass you. Although if they do harrass you, you can sue them and you WILL win.

    Please remember that they are YOUR kids, and NOT property of the state. The school districts for this info all too often.

    Please contact me for more info, I would be Happy to help you out in anyway I can. I have several homeschooling friends all over the country and can probably get you in touch with someone that can act as a mentor.

    I promise you one thing, if you choose to homeschool, you will NEVER regret the decision. It's the best choice I ever made and the whole family loves it!

    Sorry to have gone on forever here, but there is SO much info, and I am passionate about homeschooling. I consider it a mission in life to educate those around me to the benefits homeschooling.

    Be Blessed,
    J-bearmama (Heather)
  3. layinglow

    layinglow New Member

    Lume, I have homeschooled for years, pre-illness, and am continuing to do so. I have four children, the eldest went entirely through the public education system. The second in-line, began homeschooling in highschool (she is now attending college). The remaining two have been homeschooled all their lives, and are 15 and 12, now.
    We choose to homeschool for a variety of reasons, but first and foremost is that we felt our children would receive a better education, and this has proven true.
    I understand that public schools do their "darndest", to educate our children, but the numbers in the classroom, hinder the individual child. Due to the overwhelming numbers in the class their must be a median. Therefore, those children that are gifted, are held to that median, and not given the opportunity to excel, and work at the speed they are capable of performing. This leads to boredom, and disinterest in learning. On the other hand, you have slower, learners, those possibly that have various learning disabilities, such as dyslexia, dysgraphia, etc., that find it difficult to keep up with the median.
    The one on one, individual attention afforded our homeschoolers, as well as the ability to work at their own pace, has been wonderful. Our children have all fallen into the gifted and talented class of children, and work at a fast pace, with a mastery of curriculum coming quickly. Additionally, they are also able to do independent studies, in areas that interest them, and receive credit for such. This has maintained their attitude that learning and knowledge are magnificently fun and rewarding!
    Upon completing homeschooling at highschool level, our oldest daughter received a full scholarship for her first year in college, as her test scores were so high. Our two current homeschoolers, were tested last year by our local middle school counselors at our public school, and we were told they ranked in with Seniors in highschool ratings. Prior to the testing, the counselor commented that she thought the curriculm we use was "outstanding", and all children she had tested from this homeschool curriculum, tested much higher than their peers enrolled in public school.
    As far as support, we have a wonderful support system. As a matter of fact, our children's grandfather is tremendously gifted in History, and has taught the last two that subject, their entire schooling. You would not believe the wealth of information my 12 and 15 year old hold concerning World History, American History, and Current Events.
    As I mentioned before we do use a curriculum, for homeschooling. You will find it the highest ranked in the U.S. There are different ways one can go about this, first their is accredited and non-accredited. We began using accredited, as we had no inkling as to what ramifications would occur, when we pulled our oldest daughter out of highschool. We soon discovered, there would be none, and have use the non-accredited with our latter, two children. With the accreditied, all school work, such as quizzes, and tests are sent to the school for grading, report cards are issued, and children upon completion of grade level are passed or retained. We found no need for this, but some might feel more comfortable doing so. As I mentioned before, our eldest daughter, was wisked into the college, on entrance test scores alone, using the non-accredited curriculum. Colleges are very well aware of the fact that homeschooled children, are wonderfully prepared for college.
    We are supplied with text books (which are awesome, much more challenging than those in our local school system), teachers editions, test and answer books, and a host of other materials. These you can choose, as you feel you need them. For example, with children the age of your children, you might not need a teacher's edition in math, reading, etc. The curriculum covers all areas of study, that are needed for graduation--actually they surpass that!
    One can purchase new books from the school, or also buy them used, from the large network of homeschoolers using the same curriculum. Lessons can be done strictly from books, or online courses, and video courses are available.
    We use ABeka Homeschool, based in Florida. It is a Christian Curriculum which has all the core subjects, plus Bible Study. You can find ABeka online, if you preform a web search.
    Another wonderful aspect of homeschooling is the time it saves, as compared to the typical school day when attending public schools, and the flexibility it offers as far as scheduling. We are also afforded the gift of having much more time with our children, being a greater influence in their lives.
    I hope I have answered all your questions. I would be happy to answer anymore that might occur.
    Best wishes,
    LL

    Another note, I thought I might add, is that I have Fibro and CFS, quite severely, since this seemed to be a concern that your husband was voicing. It is actually much less taxing, than those early morning preparations, getting a child off to school. We are able to work outside on the patio table on nice days, or atop my bed on those days I am not up to par. My youngest daughter enjoys climbing a tree, and doing her reading work perched atop a limb, lol! There is no prescribed wardrobe. Since the children get individual attention, and there is no class changing, and all the other things in public school that add up on the clock, (which total 7 1/2 hours in our school district); we are finished with our studies in half that time (usually 3-4 hrs). They can also take a day off when we choose to take them, or they are invited to go to a museum, aquarium, any knowledge gaining activity. We are so much more flexible, and the children are reaping the benefits.
  4. Emmy1

    Emmy1 New Member

    Just came by for a minute and saw your post.My head and neck are hurting so I could only read yours and jbearmamma's which made me made me chuckle (because of the bit about socialization, what a great answeer!!)
    I have two sons living at home (23 and 16) they never went to school outside. It took some time convincing my husband (I also do not think that private schools are that much better than public). So the only choice was home-schooling.
    My reasons were too many to count and even with the fibro, lupus, and other ailments, I could do it again, even if I had to do it from a bed.
    For some time, I had them registered at an outstanding private academy (Christian Liberty), they send all the materials you need and give you lots of options on how you do it and how much involvement you like from them.
    One of my concerns was to strive for balance, and when the children got a little too ahead, I gave us a break.
    After, we went on by ourselves, doing our own curriculum.
    My 23 year old works at a bank, is very well liked, and respected. He never had any problems finding jobs, in fact, the supervisors at two places didn't want him to quit. They say his manners are "amazing" and he is responsable and mature and gets along with everybody regardless of their age.
    Among the very important things I wanted was for them to speak English flawlessly and to interact with people of all ages.
    I"ve always told my children that the one expectation I have from them is that they be the best human beings they can possible be, an asset to the planet we live in, which careers they choose, if they choose any, is their personal and private bussines.
    How they treat themselves and others IS NOT.
    Anyway, you have already the best teaching tool, your concern, caring and love for your children, the academics will follow and the learning will all fall into place.
    Soon you will be asking yourself how did they learn this or that and you will be amazed how easy it is after all.
    Emmy

    [This Message was Edited on 03/06/2003]
  5. lumediluna

    lumediluna New Member

    You guys have some REALLY good things/points to say! [This Message was Edited on 07/15/2003]
  6. j-bearmama

    j-bearmama New Member

    Lumediluna,

    I'm glad you enjoyed my post.

    I hope you can convince your husband to read
    Christopher Clicka's book!
    If not all of it. perhaps you can read it, and just point out some of the passages.

    One GREAT way to convince ANYONE to homeschool is to make the sit in a highschool classroom ALL DAY.
    If that doesn't convince you nothing will.
    Or have them walk around during a sporting event at the school and just LISTEN to the kids talk.

    I so look forward to you emails!

    I don't know if we are allowed to give out websites here.
    But I'll risk it (sneakily)
    a FABULOUS chat room that will give you TONS of info on homeschooling is crosswalkDOTcom ( ok not so sneaky).

    there is a homeschool chat room there.
    I may not be IN the homeschool room, but am there every tuesday night around 10pm (eastern) and Fri and/or Sat about the same time. My name is the same there as here. ( so I don't forget! LOL

    IT is a Christian site. there is also a forums there for homeschooling. another good site to chat is homeschoolchatDOTus
    notice it is NOT a dot com. but .US

    When you email me I can give you a hand full of great sites.
    I pray that you and your husband decide to go ahead with the homeschooling, and if so, I can give you TONS of web sites.

    In fact I have 3 floppy disks full!

    I also have lots of hs friends that sell their used books. So I may be able to help you get what you need to get started at a reasonable cost.
    Fortunatly homeschool kids are usually quite gentle with their books. Most often these hs text books go through about 15 kids and are only gotten rid of becaus ethey are out dated. In fact I have a few books that may work for you.

    Dear, I will do anything I can to help you. As I said, it is my MISSION in life.
    It all boils down to this: If we don't raise intellegent patriotic, loving children NOW, when we are old we will be stuck with an America that even the best horror fiction could not compare to.

    have you ever watched the show "street smarts"? Those people are IDIOTS!

    Good luck and God Bless!
    Can't wait to here from you via email!

    J-bear
  7. debbiem31

    debbiem31 New Member

    My son is only 21 months old, I know it's a little early to start thinking about homeschooling, but....

    I will not be having any more children. Physically, I can't carry another child. So my question is, can you do homeschooling with only one child? Can you school other peoples' children?

    And also, I have graduated from high school with very high grades, but I never had the opportunity to go to college. Will I have enough education to teach my son???

    Would I benefit from going to some courses myself, to brush up on the whole concept? I'm 31, so I haven't been to school for a long time. With the "brain fog", I worry that I wouldn't be able to teach Seth appropriately.

    I, too, worry about all that is going on in our public school systems, e.g. the food they're fed, the toxicity of the buildings, etc.

    I'm sorry, I guess that was more than one question!!!

    Thanks, Debbie
  8. LinnFam

    LinnFam New Member

    And, I have to say ditto and Amen to everything Heather posted. We were realy rebels, back in the 70's, keeping our children out of school! There weren't alternative charter schools (unless you were a delinquent).Our kids were home-schooled through high school, starting college courses at age 15 and graduated by 17 with extremely high scores. This is not because my husband and I are geniuses; well, HE is close, but, by simply not having all the garbage and worldly input going into their brains, they certainly excelled. I taught the History, English, lower math, music, home ec. and my husband, who is a chiropractor, taught all the sciences and Bible. We each taught what we were best at. For instance, we incorporated Biology, chemistry, math, & home ec. by having them plan and plant a garden every year, taking it through harvest and methods of preservation and nutrition. This project couldn't help but lead to discussions of weather, wind, herbology, the making of tinctures and ultimately our gratefulness to God for His provision.
    Our children became wonderful citizens. One is an absolute artist in marble and granite. One son is incredible in understanding stocks and commodities and sciences. Our daughter is extremely creative,a harpist,who studied at Eastman School of Music and recorded her 1st CD at age 14. By homseschooling your children, you can really get to know them and their gifts and tailor their studies around their learning style, them fun with it. I'm convinced that EVERY child has a gift or talent. Parents just don't spend enough time with them to discover it.
    There were MANY days that I did not even teach. In fact, one YEAR, I was just overloaded and all they did was "play". But, those days were filled with experimenting, creating, photographing, building projects. They always tested high in practical application, which is extremely important to me.
    Today, they would tell you that they will most certainly do the same with their children and they thank us for giving them the childhood we did.
    Lastly, if we were weak in an area (like higher math), we would find other parents to teach it, then included their child in one of our subjects or projects. The elderly are an absolute wealth of history and information and they have time and patience and willingness to impart their treasures. This nurtures true socialization for your child. They will learn to love being with all ages, not just their peers.
    I hope this works for you. It's such a rewarding experience!

    LinnFam
  9. momofafibro

    momofafibro New Member


    I agree with everyone homeschooling is the best. The only requirement in S.C. is that you have to have a diploma or GED, to teach your children at home. My husband is the main teacher as he is the one with the diploma, but I do help out a great deal and I have lupus. So don't let the fibro stop you from trying it. I love the freedom it gives. It is hard to explain in detail just how great it is.
    Our situation is a little different pertaining to how we came about teaching at home. Our daughter(11 yrs)was just dx'd with fibro last month. She has been sick since last summer. She missed almost the first whole semester this year and was having a terrible time trying to catch up. So we figured we would try this and see if it helped. So far so good. She is more relaxed. On days she feels to bad to work we simply skip it that day. We will catch it up later. Homeschooling can be as structured or as laid back as you want it to be.
    We use a curriculum that is on disk for your computer. It is self graded leaving very little for us to worry about. The only books that are involved are the books that she will need for book reports or such. The best part is those books come with the curriculum. The curriculum is put out by Alpha Omega Publications and is called Switched-On Schoolhouse. Uh-Oh I forgot, your children maybe a little young for it. It starts at the third grade level. Oh and it is a Christian based curriculum also.
    I hope this has been some help.
    For the lady with the 21 month old... I have heard it said many,many times homeschooling starts at birth and continues through adulthood.
    Becca
  10. j-bearmama

    j-bearmama New Member

    Debbie it is NEVER too early to start getting info on it.

    I started playing with the idea before my son was 2 also.
    Just took a while to convince husband.. BUT I WON.

    You don't have a degree in Child development but are SURELY qualified to "raise up a child in the way he should go".

    You already taught your child to walk, and talk and soon potty training ( which by the way is WAY harder to teach than quantum physics.)

    I also have an only child. and the drs. said I should not have anymore either. ( husband had a "trip to the vet" a few years back. LOL)
    My son is 9.
    He may get bored, but is not lonely.

    (I have a sister that is 5 years older than me, and growing up we often didn't do stuff together bc of age difference. Not too many 16 year olds want to play dolls ya know.)

    He has friends of all ages and back grounds.
    Scouting is his passion. He is the most decorated scout in our Pack. We often incorporate scout requirements into teaching.

    It may look overwhelming at first. BUT you can do it.
    Fortunately you have several years to gather info.
    I suggest you check out the links and books I suggested earlier. And please, by all means, feel free to email me too.

    It doesn't really matter if you have a degree or not.
    ALL public school teachers have degrees. and MANY of them couldn't teach the wind to blow.

    Thomas Jefferson was homeschooled, and I think he turned out all right? And I don't think his mom had a college degree either.
    YOU CAN do this.

    I still think it is easier than teaching and training and infant or toddler. I'm honestly glad those days are over. As my health is worse now than it was then ( age and fms make a lousy combo),I could in no way manage to raise an infant in my current state of health.

    God bless you and your little one.

    Hope to hear from you again soon.
    j-bear

  11. j-bearmama

    j-bearmama New Member

    linnfam,
    THANK you for the 'vallidation". Sometimes when we feel at our worst it is hard to keep in mind WHY we homeschool.

    In a very tiny nutshell...to glorify God.

    I'm impressed you had the guts back then to homeschool. My what HIGH hurdles you must have jumped back then!

    OH how I wish my mom would have hsed us.

    To think of all the heart ache I would have avoided.
    However I did meet my husband in school, so I guess SOME good came out of it. :)

    By the way. I just have to say one thing that has been weighing on my mind since this thread started...

    Isn't it WONDERFUL that no one has bad mouthed homeschooling or questioned OUR ability to do so.
    I guess we aren't completely "disabled" after all.. But don't worry, I won't tell the SSI people. LOL

    God bless you for your strength to " follow the road less traveled by". Back when that road was CLOSED.

    J-bear
  12. debbiem31

    debbiem31 New Member

    I just wanted to thank you all for the great information. I would like to add, however, that I'm not Christian or Catholic or any other religion. I was never raised by religion, rarely did I go to a church. Since reading your posts, it seems like most of the homeschoolers out there are Christian. Does it matter? Is that important? Do you think I'll still be able to do a good job of it? Are there any non-religious homeschooling tools out there?

    I appreciate all of your input...

    Debbie
  13. j-bearmama

    j-bearmama New Member

    Debbie,
    Although the majority of homeschoolers are religious, by no means are ALL of them.

    It seems that parents being fed up with crappy public schools crosses all social/racial/economic/plitical and religious borders.

    There are many hs support groups for everyone. Not just religious people.
    Check out yahoo groups for a hs online e-list group in your area.
    I get the VA eclectic homeschool list. and when they say eclectic they are NOT kidding.

    One of my best homeschooling friends is a hard core NON religous person.
    As she puts it. "Religion is NOT something I want to have in my life."

    Although I find that baffling as a Christian. It's up to her.
    She is good mom and has sweet, well behaved kids. All she wants for them is BETTER educational opportunties.

    one thing's for sure, homeschoolers are the most diverse "group" I have ever seen.But we share many things in common.

    All homeschoolers hate the "cookie cutter" students the public schools create. We want our kids to be individuals who can THINK for themselves and are not forced to share the oppinions of others who insist that THEY are right, no matter what the evidence points to.

    As a parent you have the right and obligation to raise kids that grow up to be productive members of society.
    Look at around at the highschool kids you know.
    Do you realize that in a few years they will eligable to become congressman/women? Many of them can't even READ at highschool grade level. How on earth are they going to be able to make such important decisions for the rest of society?

    I assure you, that if you choose to homeschool,you will create some fabulous kids.
    And don't worry about making mistakes when teacher. ALL teachers do.
    But at least you can be sure that you can fix many of the mistakes. and if not, so what?!

    Kids need to learn that parents aren't perfect.

    Good luck with your decision.

    J-bear
  14. JLH

    JLH New Member

    Please don't hate me, but I would never homeschool my children. I know there are a lot of problems with public schools and everyone can't afford private schools, but I really think a very important part of a child's life is the interaction with other children their same age is very important. They need to learn how to interact with other children who are not their siblings. They need to be exposed to all the different types of people in the world, "the good, bad, and the ugly"! Education comes in many ways. Interacting with people of different faiths, ethnic backgrounds, is beneficial to all, even at the kindergarten age. Facing bullies is a part of life. You can't shelter your children from everything even though we would like to. My 3 children went to public school and my oldest is a RN, the middle child graduated as valadictorian of her middle school and her high school (large high school, too, graduating class of 400 seniors - and she was No. 1!!) and is now ready to graduate in May from MEDICAL school where she currently ranks #3, and my son is a senior in college. They survived public schools, did not get into drugs or alcohol. They thrived on the extra activities such as band, etc. If they had been homeschooled, they would never have had the blasts they did going to band camp, all the band competitions, concerts, etc. As the children get older, will they resent it having to be homeschooled rather than experiencing the high school life with all of their friends? I think I enjoyed my children more by not being with them 24/7. Our time together after school was quality time. These are just my personal opinions and have nothing to do about having fibro and feeling like teaching them or not, and I hope everyone won't think I am this terrible person because I don't agree with homeschooling. This is the same prinicple that we offered our children on going away to college. One of them wanted to stay at home and go to the local community college. My husband, who has a masters degree, said NO WAY! He agreed that you cannot get a "real" college education by staying at home. He strongly felt like getting a college degree was more than the books--it included the dorm life. All my children agree now! Living in a dorm really opens your eyes and how to get along with your roomies and all share a bathroom, take care of each other, a real experience that they will NEVER forget and will treasure the rest of their lives. My husbands college dorm friends still visit from all over the US around the holidays when they come back to their home state. My two grandsons are in public schools, one in kindergarten and one in the first grades. They already have "best friends" and talk about their teacher like she is a goddess. I'm glad they are having these experiences. They are out signing up for their school's Tee-Ball and Minor League Baseball teams this afternoon.
  15. j-bearmama

    j-bearmama New Member

    I agree that ALL kids should learn to interact with children AND adults of all ages.


    That's why we are involved with scouts. Church groups, and homeschool groups. Plus there are the neighborhood kids he still plays with.

    I know several homeschoolers that are in sports, band, music, dance, piano, art classes, you name. the skies the limit!

    The difference is only that homeschoolers are bound by the schedule of ONLY doing these things after 3pm.

    From what you said of your children, you must have excellent public schools in your area.
    I also went to public schools.
    And the ones I went to ( except one in OH) were acedemically quite good.

    However,
    The schools here are SO bad. we have elementary kids getting busted for drugs. THe middle school BRAGS about having day care facilities to keep the YOUNG girls in school. ( not a bad idea to continue education, but GEEZ)

    The pregnancy rate is 45% in the high schools. and I won't even get into the drugs and alcohol trouble.

    And when it comes to test scores our district has HORRID scores.
    The "average" SAT score of a high school senior is 435 TOTAL.
    I think you get 400 for getting your name right or something. It's been years since I took mine.

    Since your kids are older now, you may not have to deal with all the "new crap" going on in public schools.
    Such as the same version of sex ed we got in 7th grade, they now teach in 4th. ( NOT KIDDING. saw it with my OWN eyes.)

    I hope you don't think that homeschoolers are locking in the house chained to a desk 8 hours a day. That is the furthest from the truth.

    Between the 'easy' and 'hard' subjects we play games go out side or visit library or friends. or whatever we WANT to do that day.
    Then come back refreshed and ready to work.

    It's like recess only better.

    I'm not saying any one way to educate kids is the ONLY right way. I just know that homeschooling is the ONLY right choice for MY family.

    J-bear
  16. teach6

    teach6 New Member

    I have to agree with you. My three kids all went to public schools and did well when they chose to. My middle child is an artist and an outside the box thinker. Life has not been easy for him. However I know that he would not have accepted any attempt by me to homeschool him. He wouldn't even let me help with his homework! If I had tried to homeschool him he would have missed out on all the fantastic art classes he was exposed to.

    We still went to museums, and he went on multiple field trips throughout school, as did my other two. I also know there is no way that I, even as a teacher certified to teach children from preschool through eighth grade, could have done justice to all the diverse subjects my children studied.

    I couldn't teach video production for three years, complete with editing machines and an internship for one of my kids (they all took it) at the school system's TV station. I don't have a clue how to teach computer graphics 1, 2, and 3, but I am grateful for the teacher who did and also became a mentor to my son the artist.

    I couldn't have taught my oldest Spanish, which he now speaks fluently with his soon-to-be mother-in-law, and which he and his fiancee plan to speak at home when they have children so their kids will be bilingual. I took math all the way through high school, even calculus, but I couldn't teach it now.

    There is no way I could have provided the discussion opportunities found in their high school government and history classes. I don't have the clout to bring local politicians, as well as our congressional reps into the classroom for first hand information on how the government works.

    I know I couldn't set up a mock Congress where each student takes a role and they present their own laws and try to get them passed by their peers in Congress. These are not boring high school classes, just as their elementary classes were not boring, and neither were the ones I taught.

    Another area that is required to be addressed by public schools is that of special education. Any child who qualifies is required by law to receive appropriate modifications to their learning in the "least restrictive environment." Are you prepeared to meet the needs of children with learning disabilities? What about speech therapy, which two of my children needed and received? Ironically my son with a hearing loss did not need it, but he qualified for other assistance when he was young.

    As far as I'm concerned all children have a right to be in public school. If your schools have problems then it's your duty to work toward changing them. Hiding behind the veil of homeschooling doesn't solve that problem and just lets it go on for another generation. If you are that passionate about your children's education, do something about it.

    I lvoe my kids to death. They are all now responsible adults. They were active in school sports as well as community ones. My oldest will never forget his years on the cross country and track teams. They were a close knit group of kids and I knew that when he was out he was out with them and they were a fantastic group who were great students as well as athletes. One of those ream members will be in his wedding next month.

    My daughter had the opportunity to try lots of different sports in her high school years. She played high school soccer, field hockey, indoor track and was on the school's first varsity volleyball team. Those brought mempories she will never forget, to say nothing of powder puff football and running down the field as a running back.

    Finally there is the diversity of friends my kids made at school. They did not all come from our neighborhood. In fact my daughter's best friend who shares the same first and middle names as well as things too numerous to mention, lived ten miles from us. But even though they are now in school hundreds of miles apart they still stay in close touch. Her friend exposed her to a family of Cuban immigrants. They have faced together mothers with chronic illnesses and an artistic sister or brother with identical chronic illnesses.

    If it weren't for the school system's summer Institute for the Arts my middle one would have been lost throughout high school. The summers spent there were some of his best memories and he made great friends there that he didn't find in his own school.

    My oldest spent hours in my classroom as a volunteer. In the beginning it was to meet the volunteer requirements for the National Honor Society, but later it was because he was catching the teaching bug. He became a subsitute teacher as soon as he qualified and now is teaching some very lucky preschoolers in the South Bronx.

    I visited his first grade class in Florida last year and was amazed at how much progress his very high risk students had made in less than a year. They were reading at a higher level than the first graders I was working with in small groups in my own suburban school.

    I think I have gone on long enough. I just felt that the public schools needed a say in this thread to counterbalance the other side. Public schools are what the communities make them be. Our area has high expectations for its schools. Does yours? If not, why not make it your priority?

    Barbara
  17. Dayle

    Dayle New Member

    although its not what I did & I feel my 4 children turned out great. I think that there are pros & cons to both systems. I just wahted to say that my Daughter in law home schools & you couldn't meet a couple of nicer children age 5 & 6.5. They think the word DARN is a bad word. Also, What do you have to Lose. If it doesn't work for you at least you can say you did your best. LOL, Day
  18. debbiem31

    debbiem31 New Member

    I'm actually glad that we're getting conflicting opinions. This is exactly what's going on inside my head. I want my son to make friends and be involved in stuff that I may not be able to provide for him. I really don't know any neighbors, don't go to church, etc., so I don't know how I would be able to get any social interaction for him. And I'm not totally sure I want to be a SAHM for the next 20 years or if we can afford that! We're stuggling now as it is...

    Ah well..... At least I have a few years to think about the pros and cons. I will definitely be doing some research. For me, I didn't like school, but I liked learning so I would have enjoyed homeschooling. But everyone is different.

    I will say that while I'm raising my young baby, I will teach him all I can, when I can. He's only 21 months and can already say and identify every letter of the alphabet! Pretty amazing to me!

    One question.... If you start your kids out in school and decide it's not the best choice, can you stop and start homeschooling?

    Thanks everyone, great thread!!
  19. lumediluna

    lumediluna New Member

    Well, well, well :)

    Good post's everyone, and VERY good points. [This Message was Edited on 07/15/2003]
  20. Mom2Two

    Mom2Two New Member

    I only have a son in Kindergarten, but would never even consider home-schooling. Even though all my close friends home-school. I am lucky that he is in a great school that has been voted a California Distinguished School every year since we moved here 5 yrs ago. With my FM I could not even consider doing home school. I could not sit with him for 4 hours doing school work. I can barely help him with his homework now as a K student. He needs 30 minutes a day from me and I find that difficult. Now, my FM isn't that bad. I have fatigue and mostly achy legs. I have a friend with bad FM who has 2 sets of twins and is home-schooling. They are at different levels and so she is teaching 3 grades. It is wrecking (sp?)havoc with her illness and next year she is putting them in school even though they say they don't want to. I applaud her decision.