how does OLE affect mycoplasma tests

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by skychomper, Aug 1, 2003.

  1. skychomper

    skychomper Member

    hey everyone,

    just wondering if anyone knows if the OLE kills mycoplasma.

    Ive been taking OLE for a couple of months and had stayed off of it for about four days when I had the test done.
    I just don't want the the tests to come up negative if there is in fact a mycoplasma infection.

    since I know there are certain medications for this. I would hate if the OLE had just kept the critters at bay and I got a false negative.

    The doctor knew I had been taking OLE, when blood was drawn, so maybe there is nothing to be worried about. could just be paranoid,

    well the good news, is that I found a good doctor. finally!
    thanks everyone!

    cheers,
    skychomper
  2. Plantscaper

    Plantscaper New Member

    Her daughter had tested positive for mycoplasma..went on OLE..and it helped her get rid of her mycoplasmal infection...TALK TO HER ABOUT THAT!

    Plantscaper
  3. Iggy_RN

    Iggy_RN New Member

    I would like to know the same thing. I was dx'd w/mycoplasma pneumonaie about 3 months ago, and my rheummy wants me on doxy until I get rid of it, but its been almost 3 months now and they are pretty stubborn. I have OLE in the fridge, and I am pretty sick and tired of feeling sick and tired w/doxy/ I would rather take OLE instead, Thanks Iggy
  4. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    I drink the tea made from the elixer. Right now, I am pulsed off everything, including the OLE tea. Dr. Nicolson also recommends using the colloidal silver.

    I exercise as best I can and do deep breathing exercises to try to increase oxygen in my system because mycoplasmas can't thrive where there is an oxygen-rich environment.

    Those little buggers are the pitts to get rid of.

    Love, Mikie
  5. PatPalmer

    PatPalmer New Member

    Hi Skychopmer,

    Yes, Jan 2002 my Daughter was diagnosed with Mycoplasma Pneumoniae at the time the Mycos had her literally by the throat - it was sore & swollen beyond belief.
    A simple swab was enough to get a sample of the critters...

    They gave her 2 weeks on Erythromycin - fat lot of good !

    The throat went down but after 9 months she was still struggling to function. - Then last October she started on OLE and within 6 weeks her energy levels really
    improved, her brain fog lifted and stopped sleeping in the afternoons.
    She went on to pass her driving test this January - which speaks volumes...

    So glad you have a good doc at last too.

    Love Pat.
  6. skychomper

    skychomper Member

    I knew OLE was good, but I didn't know it was THAT good!
    pat, im so glad your daughter is doing better, thank goodness for some good news.

    could I ask you how much she takes?
    right now I take 1 250 mg pill @ 18% oleuropein. I wouldn't mind taking OLE if I do indeed have a mycoplasma infection. I just want to know what the heck I have!

    I guess I could stay off it and take it again at some point.
    but I will wait and see what comes of these tests. I have a feeling my thyroid may have some issues too.

    thanks so much for your answers. I will keep you posted!
    skychomper
  7. lucky

    lucky New Member

    although my mycoplasma tests a few months ago were 'inconclusive', I am sure that my walking pneumonia was caused by a mycoplasma infection.
    I also was on antibiotics for about 2 weeks, but at the same time started on the OLE which was in May. I am still taking it, however in a stronger dose (2000 mg and more), I am positive that it has helped tremendously with getting on my feet again after the pneumonia and also helps to keep other symptoms like sinus problems under control.
    It is worth a try, Lucky
  8. PatPalmer

    PatPalmer New Member

    Hi Skychomper,

    She took 3 a day of Solgar brand 225mg @ 6% oleuropein (not a high dose) - she only had a mild headache for a few days at first.

    Thing is, if you have CFS/FM, you definately have some kind of viral/bacterial/fungal infection for sure. It`s why we get ill. This in turn can throw the Thyroid out of sinc too.

    So pulsing on OLE, and having Raw Garlic (only raw) & Onions (cooked or raw) in your daily diet will help to get shot of anything that shouldn`t be there, as well as clearing the blood.

    We discovered Cytolog has antiviral/bacterial properties too. - Dawn is off the OLE and only on Cytolog now. The cytolog prevented a viral infection getting a hold.

    There`s so much out there, quite mind boggling at times...

    Have you seen my post on *Cellfood* - could also be of enormous help, as it tackles all the issues involved.

    Love Pat.

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  9. Plantscaper

    Plantscaper New Member

    I am presently reading a book on nutrition, by a M.D. who had a wife who had Fibromyalgia..and he has converted towards alternative medicine..The name of the book is What Your Doctor Doesn't Know About Nutritional Medicine May Be Killing You, by Dr. Ray Strand..In this book, he indicates that oxidative stress is a big contributor to our DDs and he has a chapter on them..He is, also, taking about nutrition at the cellular level..It is a very interesting read..

    He, recommends particularly, grapeseed extract, which I have been wanting to take..already have been on grapefruit extract..don't know how much difference there is between the two..Has anyone taken it? He says grapeseed + Vitamin E and C greatly synergistically increases one's antioxidants 50 times..This is what he thinks is the key to these DDs..plus all the other recommended supplements..I am, now, taking about 28 different supplements..

    This is a HELLO TO ALL..

    Have a good day,
    Plantscaper
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  10. skychomper

    skychomper Member

    for all your help and suggestions. I am so anxious to see the tests!
    skychomps
  11. PatPalmer

    PatPalmer New Member

    That sounds a hell of a lot of supps, I wouldn`t have the cupboard space, - must look like a health store in your kitchen. I`m interesed to see this complete list if you don`t mind.

    The book sounds great, I shall buy it next time i`m in town, thank you.

    I imagine Grapeseed Extract is very potent, as the seed would have enzymes to protect itself from mold, - mold loves citrus fruit. Not sure about Grapefruit extract, i`ll do some research to find the difference.

    It`s a shame you are unable to find a Nutritional Therapist or Holistic Practitioner, you badly need this specialist help.

    Love Pat.
  12. Plantscaper

    Plantscaper New Member

    Don't need to take but two prescription drugs, now, for sleep and thyroid..If you come across any really good natural methods for sleep, I would like to know..I can't take, Valerian (allergic-causes extreme itching) or melatonin (was not effective for me)..Will e-mail my list of supplements, soon, to you..most I have learned about on this message board..

    Hope your day is great,
    Plantscaper
  13. sujay

    sujay New Member

    I'd like a peek at that supplement list, too, if you don't mind. I've found a new source of information that seems promising; I've only seen some of there papers so far, but it looks very promising. It comes from the Health Sciences Institute in Baltimore, Md. Apparently it's a group of health care scientists who are tired of having research buried because the drug companies can't figure out how to patent natural products. Sounds reasonable to me. I'm all for capitalism, but the truth will set us free. (I hope that's not sacreligious. God is a wonderful Provider.) Anybody else looked into them yet?

    Sujay (also available at Yahoo, as in mail4...)
  14. tansy

    tansy New Member

    on the www. It has many therapeutic effects many of which would appear to apply to you. It's one of a few herbal extracts that have multiple actions and it's a very powerful antioxidant.

    love

    Tansy
  15. Plantscaper

    Plantscaper New Member

    That indicates that grapeseed extract can synergistically cause a very potent antioxidant effect in the body with its use..and this particular doc thinks that oxidative stress has a causative effect in our DDs..It is in about six messages above this one..

    How are you doing on the Cytolog?

    Plantscaper
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  16. Plantscaper

    Plantscaper New Member

    My Long Supplement List

    Olive Leaf Extract
    Oregano Oil
    Ester-C with Bioflavonoids
    Vitamin E with mixed Tocopherols
    Probiotics
    Digestive Enzymes
    Calcium Citrate
    Magnesium Aspartate/Potassium Aspartate
    Grapefruit Seed Extract
    Premenses
    Pregnenolone
    GABA
    MSM
    Milk Thistle Extract
    Omega 3 Oil
    Evening Primrose Oil
    Malic Acid
    Methyl B-12
    Coenzyme Q-10
    Selenium
    Licorice
    Quercitin/Bromelain
    B Vitamin Complex
    Considering Grapeseed oil, presently
    Pancreatin Quadriple Strength
    Chromium Picolinate
    Colostrum
    Undenatured whey protein powder
    Glucosamine/Chrondroitin
    Low Dose Multivitamin

    Whew..That is quite enough! Takes all day to get these digested..Sujay..Would be interested in knowing what you might be making reference to..sounded very vague to me..

    Plantscaper


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  17. tansy

    tansy New Member

    I'd missed the fact it was in the book you quoted. If it does work as well as claimed it could potentially help with a lot of the things we're all trying to achieve.

    Thought my list of supplements was long but you beat mine. Part of the problem for those of us who have been ill for such a long time is that we end up having an awful lot to put right and our bodies are really not up to the job of doing it unassisted.

    I used to wonder at the lists of treatments by Dr Teitelbaum and other similarly minded doctors, now I understand why.

    My aim is to eventually be in a position where I can reduce mine but I reckon some will be needed for life.

    My sister's a pharmacist and reckons I'm going about most of this the right way. She made some very interesting comments about herbs for killing off pathogens. Firstly she approves, secondly she agrees they can be very powerful, thirdly she's anti antibiotic long term use, fourthly she says anti virals have some bad side effects. So alternatives get her thumbs up. Another interesting point she made was that products such as we are using are more effective than when the pharmaceutical industry make drugs extracting part, but not the whole of a plant/herb. She's writing to her MP to add yet another argument against these being banned OTC.

    Early days yet regarding cytolog. Mouth reacted a bit, think it was the vanilla, but it didn't last long so I'm continuing to use it. With a second heatwave here, high humidity, and my body's inablity to cope with either I may well miss the start of any improvements. When I'm sure one way or the other I will let you know. At least this cannot do any harm.

    Love

    Tansy

  18. sujay

    sujay New Member

    Thanks for the list. Just writing it all out had to take a lot of effort. I'm amazed that you can swallow so many pills in one day!

    The reference I referred to was linked to Jonathan Wright's website for his clinic, which is called the Tahoma Clinic, and he uses a spacer between the 2 words. He's an MD who has an abiding interest in well-studied alternative treatments; Dr. ALan Gaby is another MD with an abidfing interest with whom he apparently collaborates. I don't really know much more about either one of them at this point, but I'm hoping to get to a conference they're offering in Seattle this fall. You may email me at mail4sujay at yahoo if you need more specifics. I'd be interested to hear what you think.

    Thanks,
    Sujay
  19. Plantscaper

    Plantscaper New Member

    according to Heidelberg Testing a while ago, so I am probably nutrient deficient in many areas..Really would have preferred to do nutrient testing, but I hear that it is so costly and may not be accurate, that it is actually better to take whatever seems appropriate..and have found I have defiencies in so many areas..

    There is a good reason behind each supplement I take, thru my reading in books and digesting what is on this message board..and I hope to say that I am much improved in about six months..I still think that the best one has been the OLE, though..Have you or any of your patients been on the OLE, yet?

    But, I plan to read much more in the nutrition area..I think it is our best avenue to better health..Would love to hear what you learn from that seminar..(have heard of Johnathan Wright)

    Hope you are doing well (relatively speaking),
    Plantscaper
  20. Plantscaper

    Plantscaper New Member

    It is very interesting, enlightening and reassuring that a pharmacist would agree with the nutrional approach..and nice to have a relative in the field...I am afraid that most medications seem to have a downside and one usually has to weigh the benefits versus the risks..My mother happened to get one of the worse illnesses with the worse solutions and the doc failed to diagnose early when even those solutions would have been much more effective than now..So, it opened my eyes to the problems with conventional medicine, as well as, having DDs that have had no good solutions..

    I would be very interested to know if she knows of other herbs, that have not been discussed here, that could be effective against pathogens..Our arsenal needs to be vast as one can build up a resistance easily, I believe..I wholeheartedly, agree that the whole plant is most beneficial, as they say, the whole fruit is much healthier than fruit juice, with all the extra natural pectin, etc. I am trying to take in much more bioflavonoids, etc and a variety of mixed tocopherols in Vitamin E.

    I eat as fresh as possible, regarding food, but you just can't count on the food being raised adequately..

    Well, hope you will be able to do well on Cytolog,
    Plantscaper