How many of you are experiencing Stage 3&4 Sleep?

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by fibrohugslife, Feb 2, 2006.

  1. fibrohugslife

    fibrohugslife New Member

    I was wondering how many of you are experience Stage 3 and 4 restorative sleep stages? I go to sleep but wake up many times at night. I was on Trazadone, Elavil, and all sorts of medications that I cannot even attempt to spell. I take a lot of supplements such as Magnesium Oxide, Grape Seed Extract,Black Cherry Juice Extract, COQ10, GabaPlus, Calcium, Multivitamins, B, C, D, and E vitamins and the list goes on.

    I was thinking of suggesting Ambien or Lunesta for my next doctor's visit. I know that not everything works differently for everyone but I am curious or what meds do you take to get to that stage of sleep? I truly believe that if I was reaching those stages of sleep that will help reduce my fatigue and pain.

    Please let me know.

  2. renae1979

    renae1979 New Member

    I had a sleep study a few years back and it showed that I do not get restorative stage sleep because I wake up so much during the night (like 40+ times!!).

    I haven't found anything that works for me because I'm very sensitive to pretty much all sleep meds and they make me a zombie the next day. So, I'm stuck either not getting sleep or getting sleep and not being able to really wake up!

    I hope you find something that works for you though!
  3. katykat24

    katykat24 New Member

    i do experience stage three and four sleep, but only because i am on trazadone. - if i forget to take it one day, i am in much worse shape the next day.

    The problem with some medications, like Ambien, is that you are only supposed to take it every so often, not every day. I had a friend who took ambien every day - got addicted to it, and it fried the emotion part of her brain. She couldn't feel any emotion for over a year, had to go into rehab and everything.

    If you need something you can take every night without causing damage, ask your doc for a good one that isn't one you've tried already.

    It helps, too, if you take magnesium or valerian root right before you go to bed.

    Good luck with finding a good one!
  4. Kinsie

    Kinsie New Member

    I haven't had stage 3 or 4 sleep in so long I forgot there was such a thing!

    I fall asleep pretty well, then in about an hour or two, I'm wide awake. Then, if I'm lucky I'll drift off again. A couple of hours later the same thing. Then once I start sleeping a little better (just before it's time to get up for work), either my husband, or my doggie wakes me up. Then.......forget it for the rest of the night.

    I really don't know how I've been functioning with such bad sleep habits. Sometimes I'll ask my husband to take the puppy, and sleep in another room for a couple of nights. That helps, but I'm in such a rut that I still wake up a couple of times.

    I have thought about asking the doctor for Ambien or something, but I haven't because I already take several medications now, and I sure hate to add another one.

    I have a prescription for Xanax that I only use if I really need them. So, sometimes I'll resort to taking a couple of them if I'm having a particularly bad night. It helps some.

    I know waking up all during the night is taking it's toll on me, but I just don't know the answer.

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  5. ritatheresa

    ritatheresa New Member

    I went for a second sleep study recently, (after CPAP and surgery seemed to be unsuccesful)

    The study (with Trazadone) showed I wasn't having like no restorative sleep at all.

    I could literrally sleep 12 hours at night, wake up exhausted, sleep 3 hours during the day and still be exhausted. The fatigue has been the worst of all my symptoms.

    Yesterday I went to see an endocrinologist who is sending me for a gammet of tests for my hormones (hormones play a very big role in sleep). I'm praying maybe I'll have some answers.

    My primary doc also wants me to see an infectious disease specialist. I finally feel like my doctors are really getting this. I sure hope so.

    Anyway, what I wouldn't do for a good night's sleep, Ritatheresa
  6. Juloo

    Juloo Member

    Two sleep studies proved 2% and 4% deep (3/4) sleep, but all was just Stage 3, and not 4.

    Xyrem has been the only thing that helped -- and it really did help. But I had problems with it, so I stopped my prescription. I have two bottles left (they can't take it back), so I am going to use it trying to figure out if there is a way that is possible for me to take it without putting my stomach in a tailspin.

    Last night I took just one dose instead of two. Stomach fine. Me -- just a *little* tired.

    Who knows. This has been a very long term problem for me.
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  7. caroleye

    caroleye New Member

    I've been a chronic insomniac for years, and here's my present recipe:

    ....stay as stressfree & calm as possible during the day what supplements you're taking during the day
    e.g. if I took one B12, I'd be up all night;

    ....try to "wind down" an hour or two prior to putting the lights out

    ....I take Inositol right afater dinner

    ....Then ZMA, Cal-Mag, Calms Forte & Klonopin
    (usually gets me thru 4 hours)

    ....Then Cal-Mag, Calms Forte & Klonopin
    (lucky if another 4 hours)

    but this is NOT deep sleep; still wake up tired. It's been one of my worst symptoms always.

    Oh, and I do ask my guardian angels to whip up a "knockout" potion & pour it all over me!!

  8. Kimelia

    Kimelia New Member

    I love the knock out potion idea, I will have to try that one :)
  9. MamaR

    MamaR New Member

    mine started way back in early 1980. It was awful! I tried eveything...went to many docs. I tried over the counter stuff...herbals...nothing helped for long.

    But, finally was put on klonopin... and it really is only med that I can take to get the deep sleep.
    My doc said that it is very good for fibro patients.

    He has me on 1mg at bedtime...but I sometimes cut it in half and take it with melatonin. That works too.

    You might mention this to your doc.

    I think that it was Mikie that had a post on it here awhile back.

    This terrible memory of mine!

    I plan on printing out more of the good info from here. It has been so helpful!

    Good Luck Dear....MamaR