I need info on Cowdens protocol please,

Discussion in 'Lyme Disease Archives' started by buttercakes, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. buttercakes

    buttercakes New Member

    I googled cowdens protocol and found quite a bit of info, but I would like to buy the book.(if there is one)Has anyone tryed it? and can you tell me anything about how it worked for you? Much thanks, Sandie
  2. victoria

    victoria New Member

    if you put 'cowden' into the search box up above and search under title and also content, you'll come up with posts about people using it here...

    There was a 1 year study started in the fall of 2006 on Cowden's protocol in the Netherlands. I just emailed the herbal product site whose products were used and that publicized it (Nutramedix) if there were any preliminary results available yet.

    I'll let you know if/when I get an answer!

    all the best,
    Victoria







  3. buttercakes

    buttercakes New Member

    That would be great, any info would be helpful. Do you know if he ever wrote a book? thanks Sandie
  4. victoria

    victoria New Member


    Nutramedix has Dr. Cowden's protocol on their site, as it appears their products are what he recommends and the preliminary and recent research was done with.

    I didn't look at your links, Molly, but when I was looking for the results of the study, I noticed there are a lot of slightly different protocols listed all over - I'm guessing it's evolved over time and different ones were current at the time of posting? So I found a lot of confusing info as to exactly what all he recommends currently.

    At any rate, I'm having problems accessing any and all pdf files on my computer (freezes it, can't remove it, etc!!!) and have to go to library today, so I'm going to look it up on their site and copy it.

    talk to y'all later...
    Victoria

    PS the only books by him that I could find were written in late 1990s about treating cancer and also heart problems via alternative medicine. He's a board-certified cardiologist and a "Specialist" in internal medicine as well. I know what 'board-certified' means, but not sure what a 'Specialist' is -- anyone know if there's a difference?
    [This Message was Edited on 04/28/2008]
  5. buttercakes

    buttercakes New Member

    There seems to be alot of info on old posts here. It looks like there is alot to learn. Twinofdar, please let me know how it goes for you. Ill be on bicillin injections for the next 7 weeks(ouch) then Im going to speak to my llmd about trying it. I hope it works for you. thanks again you guys.
    Sandie
  6. victoria

    victoria New Member

    The response from the company was vague, no real indication of what the results were -- or even when or if the study was going to be published.

    Due to the FDA's heavy-handed nasty tactics --
    (like telling cherry orchards they can't put on their website even about how cherries can help inflammation without making cherries a 'drug'(!)--

    I'm not surprised really they might not want to put anything in writing via email...

    but the vagueness as to if/when results would be published or released rather bothers me.

    If anyone has a doctor in another country that can call Nutramedix, they will speak to them by phone about it.

    Sigh.

    All the best,
    Victoria

  7. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

    I purchase my nutramedix tinctures from Renewal Enterprises online. Michelle Tonkin is an ND, and she promptly replies to my email questions.

    Dr. H in New York published a report about its use with his Lyme patients. It's not a cure in itself, but can be used as an adjunct with abx. Also, once abx are stopped, the limited or full Cowden protocol can be used for up to a year and a half to prevent relapses. People on lymenet have good things to say about it. Enula is the new tincture for babesia.

    CherylSue
  8. victoria

    victoria New Member

    Dr. H is one they talked about in response... but it would be nice to see results of the clinical trial as I believe it was a double-blind study but might remember that wrong.

    Anyway, any kind of further research beyond anecdotal is welcome... not sure how results were written up or recorded prior to this, altho I do believe it likely helps many. It may again depend on subsets due to varieties of Bb responding differently, just as they do to different abx and other herbs.

    Nutramedix did say there were going to be some changes made and some things added, I'm sure that is one of them... but it's not public, yet, what those changes are...

    Again the strong impression was that they would advise a doctor in person...

    best,
    Victoria

  9. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    Yes, the Cowden Protocol has changed over time. I did the original one, which was very simple (Samento and Burbur). Now, it is quite complicated, and you will need to print it to refer to frequently.

    Klutzo
  10. bunnyfluff

    bunnyfluff Member

    My LLMD worked with him in the past, and also helped develop some of those treatments. I work between Abx and Samento. My Dr advised against Cumanda. I did a post on it. I had A LOT of trouble w/Cumanda, and evidently I am not the only one.

    My DH tried Samento in the past, and it made him very aggressive. He is big enuf and in-yer-face enuf to begin with!

    Bunny
  11. buttercakes

    buttercakes New Member

    My llmd told me to start with samento along with my bicillan injections(oouch) for the next two months and take it slow. I really think the injections are making an improvment. I went all weekend long!! I havent done that in years. It sure felt great, i some what feel human again.
    I hope it lasts, take care everyone. Sandie