Discussion in 'General Health & Wellness' started by shannabanana, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. shannabanana

    shannabanana New Member

    Hey everyone,

    So i just received my test results from Igenex and the positive bands are as follows:


    39 IND
    41 ++


    31 IND
    41 +

    CD 57 NK Cells Absolute CT: 31
    CD 57 NK Cells (% LYMPHO): 1.64

    My naturopath is not a lyme specialist, however does think that this is enough to be indicative of lyme. I am in ON, Canada, and am thinking my best bet would be to travel to the states (NY?) to see a specialist for possible treatment.

    I have been sick for 8 years now, started with a lacey rash in summer of 2003, and by the beginning of 2004 i developed "flu-like" symptoms that never seemed to go away. My main symptoms are nausea, dizzyness, weakness, rapid heart beat, brain fog/poor concentration, and mild depression/anxiety.

    If anyone could offer any kind of insight on my test results for right now (of course i do plan to see the specialist, just might be a few months before i am able to) i'd really appreciate it.
  2. Nanie46

    Nanie46 Moderator


    If you refer to page 7 of this paper by a Lyme expert...


    ...you will see that Dr Burrascano says under the heading of "Diagnosing Later Disease", and starting with the section about "Western Blots", that you should see band 41 and one lyme specific band.

    You have a ++ on band 41 and you have an IND on a lyme specific band, band 39. A LLMD told me that he considers an IND result like a fingerprint. It may be a light fingerprint, but it is still the same fingerprint.

    Lyme patients often show postive bands on the IgM (current infection) because the infection is active even though it has been present for a long time.

    On your IgG (past infection) you also have band 41 and a lyme specific band, band 31. Band 31 can potentially cross react with viruses.

    Also look on page 8 of the same paper and read the info on the CD 57 count.

    There are many reasons why more bands don't show up in chronic lyme patients. It is important to note that testing is not the final answer in diagnosing lyme because it is unreliable. However, when a patient has lyme specific bands, a LLMD will likely consider that very significant.

    It is just as important for a LLMD to gather a thorough history from the patient, do a great physical exam, run more labs and put all of that together to make a diagnosis.

    Things sure are pointing in that direction for you, but only a good LLMD can determine that. It is very possible that you have other coinfections too...like Bartonella, Babesia, etc.

    Please read the coinfection info on pages 22-27 of that same paper.

    If you look at the symptom list on pages 9-11, you will see that your symptoms are on the list.

    To find a Lyme Literate MD (LLMD), you can go to lymenet.org....click on flash discussion...sign up for free....click on "Seeking a Doctor" board...click on "post new topic"...and create a post asking for a LLMD in NY or whatever area you desire....put the desired location in the title of the post so people can see what you need.

    There is also a very active "Medical Questions" board on lymenet.org where you can read posts, search topics and post your questions. There is a lyme board here too, it's not real active though.

    Here is some more info on lyme and coinfections:




    Good luck!!

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