I'm gaining energy adrenal info

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by bigmama2, Jan 14, 2007.

  1. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    and starting to feel better. Of course it may or may not be just a temporary phase. But it feels great to actually have some energy improvements! and feel like maybe there is hope for me to actually improve. I have been doing housework and chores and the house does not look like it's usual unholy disaster zone.

    I have been taking supplements for several months- normal things like multi vit, and multi mineral(with iron), vit D, B complex, sublingual B-12, extra vit C, an antioxidant mix, calcium/ magnesium, probiotics, Fish oil, grape seed extract, CoQ10,.

    Also been taking adrenal glandular supplements for adrenal fatigue for about 2 months. (called MilAdregen) I had the adrenal stress saliva test done (by Diagnos Tech Labs) and I have very low functioning adrenals- low cortisol all day
    long. (Stage 5 out of 7- for anyone who knows about this test.)

    My energy is substantialy better, I just hope it continues, and keeps improving, for I am a long way from "normal".

    My whole life I HATED swallowing pills (half the time I choke or gag on them) and refused to take any unless absolutely necessary. I was the type who wouldn't take an aspirin or a vitamin pill!! NOw I take about 20 pills a day, and am trying to take more!

    I really wish I knew which of the pills is causing my improvement, so I wouldn't have to take all of them, but hey it's worth it! My gut feeling is that the adrenal pills are really helping.

    I think everyone with CFS should be tested for adrenal fatigue, or at least research it on web. or read "Adrenal Fatigue" by Dr. Wilson. Another very interesting book on adrenal fatigue is called "Chronic Fatigue Unmasked 2000" by Dr. Poesnecker. He worked with very fatigued parients for 40 years, and has concluded that basically many cases of CFS are caused by adrenal fatigue. I know we are all different, but for me the adrenal connection is crucial.

    Of course I will keep everyone here posted on my progress, and what seems to help, or not. HOw I hope that 2007 brings improvement for all of us!!!

    BigMama2
  2. Jeanne-in-Canada

    Jeanne-in-Canada New Member

    I can guarantee the adrenal glandulars you are taking are making the most substantial difference.

    I've been taking them for over a year, and I've had so many truly remarkable benefits, and energy is just one. I had a terrible time w/ low body temperature and debilitating chills, but the adrenals brought me back to normal and now I can enjoy a cold winter walk at -20, pas de problem. They've also helped my mood.

    If you want to know for sure, just stop taking them a few days and you'll suddenly be glued to the couch. I wouldn't recommend it though. I let myslef run out once, and it was so bad. I've also switched to the wrong brand and that can be bad too. I used New Roots Herbal, which has natural hormones still intact, which means cortisol, DHEA and another I forget. Or, I use the one I started on, which was recommended by my Environmental Doc (who takes them herself), Dr. Wilson's Adrenal Rebuilder, which has a combo of 5 glands and does NOT contain hormomes, but still works great. The Doc Wilson's puts a bit more of a boost on my failing sexdrive too, but the hormones in the New Roots brand is sometimes essential at certain times of year.



    Jeanne
  3. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

    Where do you purchase Dr. Wilson's Adrenal Rebuilder? You said it does NOT have hormones. I'm interested in this.

    Thanks,

    CherylSue
  4. cherylsue

    cherylsue Member

    I found this on Dr. Wilson's site:

    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

    Chronic fatigue syndrome is a persistent debilitating fatigue of recent onset, with reduction of physical activity to less than half of usual, accompanied by some combination of muscle weakness, sore throat, mild fever, tender lymph nodes, headache, and depression, with the symptoms not attributable to any other known cause.

    Substantial evidence is now emerging that it, and several other illnesses, may result from unusual infectious microorganisms that are not detected by the typical diagnostic tests. Special, sophisticated lab tests such as the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests can, however, detect these invaders and, in a growing number of peer-reviewed papers, are confirming the presence of these microorganisms in illnesses such as chronic fatigue syndrome.

    Once they have been detected, the proper treatment can be given. Often there are two or more microorganisms associated with this syndrome and both have to be eliminated before recovery can be expected.

    The most likely connection between CFS and Adrenal Fatigue is that the infectious agent(s) that lead to the development of CFS also set up conditions that foster Adrenal Fatigue. The direct effects of a smoldering pathogen in the body as well as the systematic stress the infection creates put the adrenals on overload. These pathogenic microorganisms act as a tremendous body burden, draining adrenal resources and producing Adrenal Fatigue.

    This further weakens the immune response and makes it harder to fight off the infection. With new diagnostic procedures available for detecting the specific infectious agent(s) responsible, there have been encouraging results using a combination treatment that eliminates the specific pathogen(s) while strengthening the adrenals. Simultaneously eradicating these infectious agents from the body, while providing adequate adrenal support is the key to complete recovery.

    Conversely, Adrenal Fatigue often precedes a syndrome such as chronic fatigue. The immune weakness that results from altered adrenal function sets the stage for easier infection by pathogens, such as those responsible for CFS, and for greater debilitation. When there is a longer than normal recovery period from CFS with decreased stamina and pronounced morning tiredness, Adrenal Fatigue is likely contributing to the symptom picture, no matter the cause of the illness. Some studies of women with chronic fatigue syndrome have found benefit from using 200 mg. of DHEA/day. Because of these studies DHEA is being prescribed and recommended by many health practitioners for CFS and related conditions. Although this may help some women, it is my clinical experience that women often do not do well on DHEA unless their adrenals are very fatigued. Levels as low as 10-25 mg. have produced symptoms of excess DHEA such as facial hair and acne. A safer and more successful way of raising DHEA levels in women is to have them take either progesterone or pregnenolone. Again, providing adequate support for the adrenals while eradicating the infectious agents from the body is the key to complete recovery from CFS. For detailed information about how to support your adrenals read Dr. Wilson's book Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Stress Syndrome and check out Programs for Adrenal Recovery on this website.

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  5. ulala

    ulala New Member

    The article does not say what the unusual infectious microorganisms are or how to treat them. Do you know?

    Thanks!!!

    "Substantial evidence is now emerging that it, and several other illnesses, may result from unusual infectious microorganisms that are not detected by the typical diagnostic tests. Special, sophisticated lab tests such as the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests can, however, detect these invaders and, in a growing number of peer-reviewed papers, are confirming the presence of these microorganisms in illnesses such as chronic fatigue syndrome.

    Once they have been detected, the proper treatment can be given. Often there are two or more microorganisms associated with this syndrome and both have to be eliminated before recovery can be expected."
  6. bigmama2

    bigmama2 New Member

    I am so glad I had that adrenal test done. Sheds so much light on my tiredness. It cost about $150 and included a phone consult w Dr. Neville at Clymer healing center. I liked him. test can be ordered on clymer website (google clymer healing center) or ordered thru your doctor, chiro, or alternative medical practicioner. The lab is called Diagnos Tech.

    It makes me so MAD that after 12 years of seeing drs for fatigue NONE of them suggested to look into low adrenal function/ low cortisol. Of course I had a blood test for cortisol but as long as you don't have severe enough results for Cushings or Addisons diseases they consider your results normal.

    From all the reading and reesearch I have done- here, the internet, and lots of books, I became aware of "adrenal fatigue" and I myself ordered the test.

    Jolielu- I'm sorry you are doing poorly now , and after FFC. I went there too (Philly) and had lots of blood work done. Found out some interesting helpful things. I liked Dr. G but felt like the treatments were a little too agressive for me. He rx'd the cortisol and I researched it. I decided I'd rather try the adrenal glandular supps. first.

    I hope you get the Adrenal Stress Index test.

    Jeanne in canada- I bet you are right! I'm glad they are helping you too! I also have Dr Wilsons supps, and I like them too. Thank god something is finally helping!!!!

    Good luck to all!!!!

    bigmama2
    [This Message was Edited on 01/15/2007]
  7. Slayadragon

    Slayadragon New Member

    That is a very interesting piece of information that makes paying to your adrenals seem really important. Thanks for sharing.
  8. nightngale

    nightngale New Member

    I just posted about thinking I have this. Do you have to go to an alternative Doc or does a regular or specialist handle the dx and treatment. I just know I have it. My primary care doc didn't even know what I was talking about, yet she is my favorite doc and is referring me to JOhns Hopkins for neuro problems. What should I do first? If I order the saliva test, can you get the treatments online? I am sick of playing the "will you treat me, listen to me, etc. game with docs." However she did refer me to a new rhemumy someone on this site recommended and eye doc for dry eye and rheumy for sjogrens cause I AM PUSHING FOR ALL THE HELP I CAN GET! But then she shuts down, like with the adrenal thing. And didn't know what a FAMA thyroid test was. Never heard of it.
  9. evol_or_revert

    evol_or_revert New Member

    Im really intrested in this at the moment.

    I'm taking some adrenal supplement made of herbs and stuff. I have noticed a difference, if I go to bed at my normal time 10.30 then Im up and awake at about 6.30am which is a shock to me lol just being awake and not being able to go back to sleep is new.

    do keep us updated, the more infomation we learn about this adrenal fatigue the better

    evol
  10. teachrtechr

    teachrtechr New Member

    Are you in Maryland? Hopkins is a wonderful place, don't get me wrong, but when it comes to CFS, I had a lot of trouble getting in touch with anyone who was willing to discuss anything with me. I ended up calling Dr. Rowe, a pediatrician, who recommended I see a NP in Hunt Valley, which was fine, but she sort of shut down on the adrenal thing as well.

    I am seeing a wonderful acupuncturist who was actually the first to bring up adrenals to me and I'd be happy to share her information with you if you are in that area. Also, my psychiatrist told me an endocrinologist would treat and test for anything dealing with adrenals, and I'm sure there would be an excellent one at Hopkins.

    BTW, the reason I'm not doctoring so much down there anymore is that I'm probably moving back to PA with my family, not because of lack of care.
  11. Jeanne-in-Canada

    Jeanne-in-Canada New Member


    I think its pretty safe to say, that w/ FM/CFS affecting the glands so globally, that most of us could benefit from glandular therapy. Most of us for the adrenals, but some could focus more on the thyroid, there are good supplements for that too, and often an adrenal/thyroid multi-gland supplement like Dr. Wilson's is the best support because the thyroid and adrenals usually fail together.


    Jeanne
  12. Jeanne-in-Canada

    Jeanne-in-Canada New Member