Is it wrong of me to ask my Dr. for pain medicine

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by shan1078, Feb 27, 2006.

  1. shan1078

    shan1078 New Member

    I'm wondering if it is appropriate to ask my Dr. for pain medication. I'm seeing this new Dr. this week. My last Dr. didn't treat w/pain med's., but gave me Neurontin. Well, I've been taking Neurontin for 2 months now, and my pain has doubled. Not from the Neurontin, but I think it just has. So, I'm kind of desperate for pain relief. However, I'm uneasy asking for pain med's , because I don't him to think I'm just some kind of addict.

    Anyone been in this situation? I just don't think I should have to suffer another 2 months again.
  2. blkkat

    blkkat New Member

    hi just go in and say you dont feel well and youve been living on over the counter pain pills and your worried about your liver ect. if you cant sleep tell them that, if your back hurts ect tell them that also. but no i would'nt ask for pain meds let them offer it to you. im on oxycodone,neurontin,klonopin,muscle relax., and prozac and still hurt everyday at a 9-10. good luck. but you can ask i THINK if you can see a pain specialist, but they like to put you on methadone or morphine that helps most people i hear but i can't take it , it made me very sick! good luck

  3. shan1078

    shan1078 New Member

    Thank you, so much. I think your right, I won't say anything and see if he offers them to me. And I probally am hurting my liver. I'm taking about 4 Ibproffen a day, and 2-3 Aleve pills. Thanks for bringing that up. My appt. is Wed. so I'll let yall know how it goes.

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  4. Lolalee

    Lolalee New Member

    I wouldn't come right out and ask for pain meds. A lot of doctors have had experiences with people who are addicted to pain meds and patients who "doctor shop". Some of them are afraid of losing their license for overprescribing pain meds. And a lot of doctors don't like patients telling them what to do.

    I would definitely tell the doctor about the pain you are experiencing. Tell him what you have tried for the pain (including non-drug therapies, i.e. massage, exercise, etc.) and that nothing has worked. Neurontin is for nerve pain and it doesn't help everyone. It didn't help me. Ask him what he suggests to treat the pain. Ask him if his other patients have had success with the med he recommends.

    If he says he is against pain meds, you might want to give him an article that is pro-pain med, i.e. Dr. Brookoff's speech at the Methodist Hospital in Memphis TN. You can do a Google search for this speech.

    By the way, whenever I go to a doctor I never wear makeup or dress up. I want him to see me the way I really look at home.

    Good luck. It's never fun going to a new doctor.

  5. 69mach1

    69mach1 New Member

    he/she may be a different dr...but they want you better and if they neuorotin isn't doing any good they why take it...

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  6. shan1078

    shan1078 New Member

    Thanks for your responses. All the feedback I can get is useful.

    I wish that it didn't have to be this way, affraid to ask Dr's for medication to treat your pain. But, we can thank all the "addicts" for that. I'm not sure if that makes me mad or sad.

    I've got a really great book on FM its - The Fibromyalgia Advocate- by Devin Starlanyl M.D.
    I'm going to take this book with me, incase all else fails (thanks for the suggestion).

  7. backporchrags

    backporchrags New Member

    Having a doctor and a nurse in the family has given me some insight on this subject.
    Go to your doctors appointment armed with info.
    Keep a pain journal. Jot down how much pain you are in daily using the 1 to 10 pain chart docs use.
    Write down all of the OTC pain relievers you have tried and how they worked for you.
    Write down your daily activity level. If you can exercize, what kind of house hold chores you can comfortly do etc.
    Write down what kinds of suppliments you use if any.
    And do not be afraid to tell the doctor how the pain impacts your life. What did you do before the pain and what you can do now.
    Bring your papers to the visit with you along with any questions you need asked. We sometimes forget to ask important questions when in the doctor's office. Many times the docs are in a hurry. Having all of your questions written down can help you keep the doc there with you, not focusing on the busy schedule they have.
    An informed patient who takes their health care seriously has a better chance of being heard. Walk into the office well prepared with answers to all of the questions that may be asked.
    Approach the visit with a professional attitude and you will be treated with the care and respect you deserve.
    Best of luck!!
  8. marw

    marw New Member

    Do you live in Memphis? Do you know if Dr. Brookoff is a pain doc at the Methodist hospital there? I have family near-by, but have nver considered moving there for fear I can't find a pain doc.

    BTW: I can never decide what to wear to a doc's office. On the one hand, if I go without make up, I am afraid I will just look like a"hyserical" woman (and one with no power), but if I wear make-up, I am afraid I will look too "well." Silly, I guess, huh?

  9. shan1078

    shan1078 New Member

    I have taken info. from all your postings to help get me prepared (this is an important appt. for me).

    I have a whole "package" of stuff I'm taking in w/me in the morning. Great information backporchrags, I feel funny calling you that. I have documented the Dr's I have seen and their dates. I have also made a record of the changes in my pain level in the past 3 months. Wrote down all the OTC med's I have tried/am still taking. And other things I have done to help stop the pain. I am even bringing my book, "The Fibromyalagia Advocate", and the article that was posted at Dr. Brookoff's speach for backup!!

    I was real excited when I read the article on Dr. Brookoff. But, he has moved to Colorado. I can give you a list of Dr's that have helped me, and how the Dr. is tomorrow, should you decide to relocate here.

  10. shan1078

    shan1078 New Member

  11. 1sweetie

    1sweetie New Member

    You might want to be careful of being extremely vocal of saying you are afraid of tylenol. Most of the narcotic pain meds have tylenol in the pill. My son needed pain medication for disc problems and migraines. He mentioned that he was afraid of the use of Tylenol so instead of giving him narcotics that he wanted and very much needed they had him continue with Neurontin & antidepressants which also does not help him. Good luck and I hope you find relief for your pain.
  12. shan1078

    shan1078 New Member

    Thank you, I will post tomorrow, and let you know how everything went. You're definately right about the Tylenol. If he does prescribe me a pain med. with Tylenol, I may mention trying Vicoprofen. But, I'm gonna let him speak first.
  13. blkkat

    blkkat New Member

    i also told my DR i was afraid of the effects of tylenol, so i take ONLY oxycodone, good luck! HUGS!BLKKAT
  14. adirondackhoney

    adirondackhoney New Member

    Neurontin. reaked havock with folks i know.
    YES ask for pain meds.
    it's ILLEGAL to NOT be treated for pain.
    you need to know your rights.
  15. jake123

    jake123 New Member

    Sometime I intend to ask my doctors "Do you have patients who come in here and ask for narcotics and you know they are addicted? Can you tell the difference between that person and me?
  16. shan1078

    shan1078 New Member

    Sorry it took so long for me to tell you guys about the visit with my new Doctor. I have been so upset/angry about the visit that I needed a day or two to calm down!!

    Well, the doctor I saw was a Rheumy. He (the Dr.) asked me lots of questions, and to my surprise, he spent alot of time listening to me. This is a definate improvement from my last Dr. I took all of your advice. I went to the appt. armed with a book about FM, the printed speech of Dr. Brookoff (sp)the one in Memphis,lists of all the med's I've been taking, and what I've been doing thus far for the pain. While I was talking to the Dr, I was sure to mention that my pain had gotten worse since I had been diagnosed. I told him on a level of 1-10, what my daily pain had been.
    After talking to me, he did a great physical exam. He left the room, and said he'd be back to discuss the treatment.

    Well, when he came back, he had decided that he was going to put my on Lycra. I said, o.k. but what about the "break thru" pain. He said NOTHING!! Said to excercise!! I started crying, I said "so,if I start hurting real bad at home, I just have to sit there and suffer"? And he just gave me a blank look. I'm still crying. Crying because I know at some point , I will be hurting that bad and can't afford to go to another Dr. , I have no insurance!! He just watched me cry!! Ran some more blood work and sent me out the door with the prescription of Lycra.

    I'm horrified, scared, sad, and mad!!
    This is really my worst fear come true!!
  17. bettydroop

    bettydroop New Member

    It still floors me that these "DRS" will STILL RX for meds that have BY FAR worse side effects and RISKS than opiates- its so ridiculous!

    I am sorry your appoinment didnt go as you wanted. You probably felt like all that time and trouble for NOTHING!

    I had a dr look at me like that while I said the same thing.... " you mean I am just supposed to suffer??"
    Yup DR. just sat there like a bump on a log. SO I DO know how you feel. I have to tell you this... only option for me was (and because I DISAGREED with her) I WENT TO ANOTHER DR.

    There is light, when I went to a new Dr, he looked at me while I cried... but with the opposite opinion. He looked at me like... well of course, why would anyone need to suffer?? Of course you dont have to!

    Drs are the same as anyone- they have differences of opinion, SO...with that in mind, not to metion you have a lower ratio of Drs that believe in RXs pain meds so you DO have less DRs that will understand. SO its a pain in the butt I know, but you gotta find one out there that thinks like you-I know its easier said than done- and I was inyou rposition at one time.

    I wish you all the best in finding the right fit.
    There is nothing written either that says you cant call first and ASK what their approach to Fibro is. Idid that and one drs office said they are all natural- I saved alot of $$ that time because that wasnt what I was looking for. I wanted an aggresive TX approach to my pain.

    Anyway I could go on and on and I wont, I feel bad for you right now and you must feel rejected and hurt and not listen to and not cared about. Those feelings really do hurt.

  18. dragon06

    dragon06 New Member

    I know how frustrating that is as I do not have insurance either. I don't see my doctor as often as I should/would like.
    The only thing I can suggest is to save up some money if you can and try another doctor. When trying another doctor call the offices first, ask if the doc regularly treats patients with FM. The book that you read the Fibromyalgia Advocate has a good website, just google it. On that site you will find a list of fibro friendly docs as well as an email to a lady who keeps a database of doctors if you don't find one on the first list just email her your area and she will email you a list.
    I got back a nice sized list and I am hoping to try one of the docs in the next couple of weeks.

    I really hope you are able to find some relief.

    Big (gentle) hugs
  19. joc_07

    joc_07 New Member

    Hi shan1078,
    I had bought the book Fibromyalgia & Chronic Myofascial Pain: "A Survival Manual, 2nd Edition"" Author: D.Starlanyl.(this book is amazing). In it they say that it's your right to get the help you need to live and that you don't have to live in pain. So I did some research on the web and asked people about pain meds on this message board and took my book to my Doctor.

    I am very lucky because I have an awesome (female) Doctor, but, it took about 5 years to find her and I have to drive two and a half hours to see her. I live in a small town and the Doctors here would rather give you a prescription for whatever than actually try to find out whats wrong with you. And thats what was happening to me. I finally got very sick with a kidney infection and they wouldn't admit me to the hospital and sent me home with antibiotics. I had to go on two rounds of antibiotics and I was still sick . The Doctor I had seen called me in a week later and said "I'm not sure what you had, the symptoms just don't add up."

    A family member of mine who goes to the Female Dr. got me in to see her because she could see that I wasn't getting the care I needed. I went to see the new Dr. and she said that I had infections in my bladder and kidneys and that I might have passed a stone. How come she could see that from the test results and the others couldn't?

    She also sent me to a rheumy and that's where I got diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Just recentley I decided I needed something for the pain because I have a hard time walking around. I took all my info to her and we sat and talked about it. I asked about oxycontin, but she said it's way to addictive and it losses its effectiveness. So I asked about Tramacet and she said it's a newer drug and shes heard good things about it. So I walked out of there with a prescription for Tramacet. I only take the drug when I go to the mall or have to be on my feet all day. So I might only have to take the drugs once a month.

    Good luck in your search, you will find a Dr. who cares if you just keep looking.

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