Jamin - Question about Armour Thyroid

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by gb66, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. gb66

    gb66 Well-Known Member

    I know you've probably answered these questions a lot but my mind is in a muddle right now. I have a pres. for synthroid and I know you take armour and had problems with synthroid.

    I don't have even a basic understanding of thyroid issues and the more I read the more confused I am. Could you explain some things to me, if you don't mind?

    My thyroid test said it was over 5.0 and I don't know what that means. The only info the doctor gave me was that I had low thyroid and needed medicine for it and a pres. for synthroid which I haven't filled yet.

    Any and all info you can give me or steer me to will be very appreciated. I know it's hypothyroidism but I don't understand the numbers and don't know what to look for on lab test results. Help! GB66
  2. gb66

    gb66 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your reply. There was a t4 on my lab report. I'll have to look it up. I was wondering what the 5 means though. Is that an overall number? We don't have intergraative doctors in my area. I'd love to go to one since I have so many medicine reactions and so many other problems.

    I may try an endocrinologist. Everything is going downhill lately, diabetes, thyroid, cholesterol in addition to cfs/fm and oa.

    I got a form letter from my doctor a few days ago and she's leaving private practice in two weeks so I'm going to have to start all over. Having the right doctor can make all the difference in the world I'd imagine. This one doesn't explain, just tells me what to do. GB66

    P.S. I'm going to call her and ask if she'll prescribe armour. My pharmacy carries it.[This Message was Edited on 03/05/2013]
  3. LadyCarol

    LadyCarol Member

    gb66, the link below provides the information you need.

    You really do need blood test results for TSH, T4 and T3 as a minimum test set to allow a better assessment of your thyroid condition.

  4. gb66

    gb66 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the link. I'm looking at my lab report and the TSH is 5.780: The range is 0.358 to 3.740. The Free T4 is 1.07. The range is 0.76 to 1.46. There is no T3 on the report. GB66
    [This Message was Edited on 03/05/2013]
  5. gb66

    gb66 Well-Known Member

    I really appreciate all the help and moral support. I was feeling a lot of confusion but it's starting to make sense now. If I understand this correctly, the Armour has both T3 & T4. The Synthroid has only T4?

    I wonder why they didn't test me for T3. I don't seem to have any of the symptoms of hypothyroid, or if I do, I can't tell them from the CFS stuff. I'm always dreadfully tired but this has been going on for over 30 years. I don't notice much more fatigue right now, maybe a little.

    I have had some thinning of my hair in the last year or so and am concerned about that. I don't ever feel cold, if anything, I'm turning the AC so low my husband is freezing. I don't know of any other thyroid symptoms.

    I could have never been diagnosed by symptoms alone. It's a good thing they have lab tests now. I was reading some stuff online about a change in the Armour in 2009 causing lots of people to complain of return of symptoms.

    Do you know if that has been corrected? I am going to call my doctor and ask for a prescription for armour. It seems to be better. I read that there was a sublingual form also. Which do you take? I have a lot of digestive problems so I thought that might be best. GB66
  6. LadyCarol

    LadyCarol Member

    gb, re:"I wonder why they didn't test me for T3." - in a word "cost".

    In your case "as jam has pointed out" the high TSH value suggests Hypothyroidism. However, before starting any med treatment they should really ascertain your T3 values to confirm Hypothyroidism; also the test values act as a useful baseline for future references.

    It's definitely worth consulting with your doctor about the test findings. Also note the onset of Hypothyroidism tends to cause subtle changes to a person’s health over (often) a significant period of time, but those changes tend to compound the longer the condition remains untreated.

    If you & your doctor decide you require treatment then start on as low a dose of med as possible, and then if required increase the dosage slowly as there is less chance of getting an adverse reaction and it gives your body time to adjust to the addition of a thyroid medication.
  7. gb66

    gb66 Well-Known Member

    I will ask for the T3 when I go back next time. I don't know how long my thyroid has been low but it's just been showing up in the last 2 years on lab tests. Thanks for the reply. I'll let you know how this progresses. GB66
  8. gb66

    gb66 Well-Known Member

    Yes, that 6 TSH is way too high. I looked back at lab reports from about 5 years ago and my level was about 2 or 3. Since then they've changed the "rules" and want it to be under 3 instead of 5. I would have been on thyroid med back then if they were going by the new standard.

    I've had lots of pain and fatigue but this has been going on for many, many years. Long before my thyroid was low. I've had it checked over the years and until the last 5 or so, it's been very good.

    I had a sudden onset viral-like illness hit me in 1978 and my life has never been the same. It has destroyed my health in spite of many doctors and tests. The bottom line is always that it must be CFS/ME and FM because they can't find any other cause for the multiple symptoms. All are listed in the CFS criteria.

    It's only recently (last 3 or so years) that I've developed the thyroid, diabetes 2, and high cholesterol problems. I feel like I'm falling apart. GB66

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