Jaw ache...

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Val, Nov 28, 2002.

  1. Val

    Val New Member

    Hi everyone, for the past few days I have had constant jaw ache. Mainly to the left side, and I feel as if I have gone ten rounds with a heavyweight....and lost!
    I think my teeth are o.k. as I was at the Dentist only a couple of weeks ago.
    Anyone else get this, and is it dear old Fibro choosing another area to make a 'pain zone'?
    ...Val.
  2. Val

    Val New Member

    Hi everyone, for the past few days I have had constant jaw ache. Mainly to the left side, and I feel as if I have gone ten rounds with a heavyweight....and lost!
    I think my teeth are o.k. as I was at the Dentist only a couple of weeks ago.
    Anyone else get this, and is it dear old Fibro choosing another area to make a 'pain zone'?
    ...Val.
  3. allhart

    allhart New Member

    tmj is very common with fm
    i have it very bad , naproxin or vioxx help also you can try motrin
    go see a dentist that knows about tmj to get evalated to make sure it not something thats progrssing.

    heres an artical about it

    Approximately three to six million Americans have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia. This debilitating disease is most commonly associated with women who are experiencing hormonal changes during pre-menopause or after a hysterectomy. Besides hormonal changes, onset of fibromyalgia could be from physical trauma such as an automobile accident, unusual and extreme emotional trauma or stress, infections, rheumatoid arthritis, or lupus. Symptoms seem to appear between the ages of 20 and 50. There are no laboratory tests such as x-rays or blood tests that can verify this disease. Fibromyalgia is usually diagnosed by locating 18 "tender points", starting at the back of the neck and extending to the knee area. These points are very tender to the touch and can be felt most of the time.
    Fibromyalgia is usually characterized by pain in the muscles and joints; anxiety disorder and panic attacks; irritable bladder; depression; chronic fatigue; sleeplessness and TMJ (temporomandibular joint disorder). The pain experienced in fibromyalgia and TMJ are very similar. Both have multiple trigger points (tender points) in various muscle groups, which create intense pain. These trigger points have been described as lumps and bumps that feel like knots in the muscles. When severe, these lumps illicit extreme pain all the time.

    Both TMJ and fibromyalgia effect the muscles of the face, head, neck, shoulders, back and even the calves. Recently, trigger points have been isolated and confirmed by electromyography imaging. The points can also be felt by touch. Unfortunately, both TMJ and fibromyalgia are often not diagnosed and the person may suffer for years with severe pain and not receive any appropriate treatment except pain medication and some sort of tranquilizers, having been told it’s all in their head.

    Many people who suffer from fibromyalgia also suffer from TMJ. TMJ is most commonly seen in women between the ages of 20 and 50 and the cause is very similar to fibromyalgia as described above. Those suffering with TMJ have had some sort of trauma to the head and neck, either from an accident, even braces or a neck brace during orthodontic treatment. Most of the time, the person is under tremendous stress and they either clench or grind their teeth. As a result of the clenching or grinding, the jaw joint become damaged or dislocated resulting in clicking, ringing, and popping noises which are heard in the ears, often causing dizziness. Missing teeth or ill fitting dentures may also cause TMJ pain.

    Individuals suffering with TMJ commonly show symptoms of dizziness, neck, shoulder, back pain, headaches, pain and pressure behind the eyes, sinus problems, and headaches. The treatment for TMJ includes replacing any missing teeth, an orthotic occlusal plate to help stabilize the bite and help balance the skeletal-musculature in the jaw, and head and neck area. Physical therapy and massage are also very helpful for both TMJ and Fibromyalgia treatment.

    Stress must be brought under control with accompanying life style changes as needed. Another very important factor is diet and nutrition. It is not uncommon for the person suffering with fibromyalgia or TMJ to be a type A personality. They may have a tendency to be a workaholic or perfectionist with no time to relax and pay attention to good eating habits.

    During the initial stage of treatment medication may be necessary to help relax the muscles, control pain and help with sleeplessness. However, the best treatment would also include, (eventually eliminating all medication) physical therapy, massage, plenty of vegetables and fruits, and water. Detoxing the body under supervision of a trained practitioner is also very helpful.

    Since both TMJ and fibromyalgia are so closely related, proper diagnosing of both is very important. Treatment involving a multi-disciplinary approach where life style changes as well as addressing physical pain will make both TMJ and fibromyalgia much more manageable.
    [This Message was Edited on 11/28/2002]
  4. achy

    achy New Member

    If you read my post regarding my sinuses you will see I am familiar with facial/ear & jaw pain. I just found out the pain I had in my ear & jaw are caused by TMJ. I got real sore where my jaw meets my face and the pain would radiate into my ear. It would also hurt if I bent over or stretched a certain way.
    Go see your dentist and get checked. My Ent figureed it out, but only a dentist can treat it. For new cases all you do is wear a device that helps stabelize the jaw, mostly at night. do you grind your teeth? I do.
    It can lead to serious damage left untreated.
    Hope you feel better soon...I sure can relate to your pain...it sucks.
    Warm Fuzzies
    Achy
  5. Val

    Val New Member

    I am not going mad. Lots of interesting info there to
    look into. Yes, it is darn painful. Hasn't let up yet even though I am on heaps of oral meds and my pain killer patch.

    Yes, I have pain at the back of my eye and down my neck. I can feel a pressure point just on my jaw (that side has clicked since I was a little girl) which when pressed gives severe pain.

    So, plenty to look into and find out about it.
    This D.D. has so many 'faces'. I think you could get a room full of people with F.M. and every one of us would have the same symptoms and then something completely different but all wrapped up in the one word 'Fibromyalgia'.
    Reading these boards I suddenly shout out ' Yes, that's me,
    I have that!' and scare the sleeping cat to death!
    I am learning every day, so thank you all.
    Have as pain free a day as possible, Shalom...Val.

  6. jesuslover

    jesuslover New Member

    I sound like such a cry baby today. I get a clicking sound in my right ear. It drives me crazy. I have been to get a hearing test (I have peripheral neuropathy also and it affects my right side and I wanted to make sure that I wasn't going deaf or something). Also on the right side, just under my ear I get a pain sometimes. (I don't know the name of the tube there, but I think it has something to do with that), and I get a pain in my jaw, right side worse than left. I have heard about tmj and fms connection. My sinuses are driving me bonkers the last couple of weeks (I live in Cincinnati OH, sinus and allergy capital of the USA), so maybe it's connected? I'll stop whining now. Hope everybody had a good Thanksgiving yesterday. Hope all our Canadian buddies had a good Thanksgiving last month. Where else is Thanksgiving celebrated?

    Nancy S.
  7. lucky

    lucky New Member

    I have been reading all the posts and am wondering if the cause of the tootaches some people have might be after all connected with the sinuses.
    Never before since I have CFS/FMS did I have such a terrible toothache than a couple of weeks ago. And sure enough, a little while later, my sinuses were infected again. Every year it seems that around this time of year, my sinus problems are so bad that I had to be put on antibiotics.
    Well, this time, and also with the help of a posting and research on my own, I was inclined to think that a candida overgrowth might be the reason for years of misery with sinus infections and not getting better after taking antibiotics. And after the pain was not only in my teeth, jaws, gums, ears, eyes, I wonder if the fungus infection is the cause of it all. Why then does it always happen around a time when it is damp/rainy/cold outside?
    When I saw my doctor, he put me on an antiviral instead of antibiotics. Hopefully, if this is helping, and it seems it does, I am sure that the toothaches also are going away.
    Right now I am quite excited about this treatment.
    Hope it might be worthwhile to check into this as well.
    Take care, Lucky
















  8. Teresa6868

    Teresa6868 New Member

    Hi Val, just saw your post and wanted to add that my jaw completely locks, I can't open or close my mouth or chew. It is hurts so bad and is miserable and lasts about 12 hours before it goes back into place, the only help I have been offered is a tongue exercise from a TMJ specialist and to try and not let my face tense under stress. I had no idea this was from the FMS because this has happened to me since I was a teen. The only thing that has changed is the time it stays locked, it use to be 15-20 minutes, now it's hours.

    Hugs, Teresa
  9. susabar

    susabar New Member

    This past weekend, I had terrible TMJ symptoms... I joked with my husband that he didn't have to worry about me yellin' at him all day Sat. I also have had terrible sinus headaches the last two days.
    hope u feel better