jaw pain

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Redwillow, Sep 4, 2006.

  1. Redwillow

    Redwillow New Member

    I have read that Jaw pain and TMJ is very common with FM. Does anyone else have it? I do a lot and it really makes it hard to fine a comfortable way to sleep.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on how to massage away the muscle cramps?

    When I am getting a migraine the pain in my jaws and face are really bad!

    hugs Marion (Redwillow)
  2. Redwillow

    Redwillow New Member

  3. purplepooh

    purplepooh New Member

    I have the same thing i can't eat or sleep. I just take a pain pill it helps.

  4. charlenef

    charlenef New Member

    put rice in a sock and microwave for a minute or two and put it on your jaw before bed for 10 min.it smells at first but gets better.it throws off moist heatand make my jaw feel better. charlene
  5. StephieBee

    StephieBee New Member

    Hi Marion!!

    How are you??

    I get jaw pain because I tend to clench and grind my teeth subconciously. I dont realize I'm doing it until I have horrible pain.

    It gives me horrible headaches.

    Sometimes when I chew too much, I get jaw pain also. Isnt't it the worst!

  6. Redwillow

    Redwillow New Member

    Thank you replying to my post! The jaw stiffness is always there, just somedays it gets much worse!

    I have never tried rice in a sock, but I do have a jell pack that I heat in the microwave. Thanks for the suggestion Charlene. Seems like an inexpensive way of making a hot pack!

    Stephie and Purplepooh I agree with you that this pain is awful. I have to take more pain medication when my jaws get really bad. I mostly notice it when I try to find a comfortable position on my pillow at night. I have also noticed that when it gets really bad a migraine is on the way! I am not sure if the jaw pain sets off a migraine or the migraine is coming and it makes my jaws hurt! Whatever I hate it!

    hugs Marion (Redwillow)

  7. victoria

    victoria New Member

    I think the predisposing factor for me happened to be orthodontics when I was a teen, and then the TMJ was further 'insulted' when I had 3 wisdom teeth removed, during which they dislocated my jaw in order to get in there faster.

    BUT I have seen other people suffering the same but for different reasons, some have no idea why!

    A quick review of what I did for 20 years: I saw many different dentists including one or two of the revered original 'grandfathers' of TMJ treatments...

    and was treated with many different types of splints, dry-needling temple/jaw muscle spasms, muscle relaxants, etc., etc., etc., -all of which worked 'for a while' but then the pain always came back within 6-8 months at best.

    I also had to quit a couple of jobs since talking too much set it off!

    I finally found a dentist who could deal with patients on an 'individual' basis instead of one-size-fits-all... He said his training was to fit the treatment to the patient.

    (What a novel idea - but funny enough, it was new, in my experience!) I saw him work successfully on patients who had all sorts of origins for their problems, from accidents, to bad orthodontics to start with, to just inherited/genetic problems, etc.

    He belonged to the American Assoc of Functional Orthodontics -
    - they have a number of dentists in US & Canada who have taken their courses and you can find their names on the website above.

    This was a real change as everyone I'd seen before had attended a training session held by whatever dentist had found some success with his own approach - well, none of them ever worked for me, since again it was a one-size-fit-all situation every time, from grinding down high spots to dry-needling trigger points in the side of my head (that idiot hit a cranial nerve instead!) to --you name it--!

    Some factors:

    "While "heredity and environmental factors are the two causes of crooked teeth and bite problems", says Terry Pracht, D.D.S., president of the AAO and an orthodontist in Westerville, Ohio.

    "Crowding of teeth, too much space between teeth, and upper teeth that don't match lower teeth when biting down are usually inherited. But jaw-jolting accidents, as well as habits such as tongue thrusting..., can cause crooked teeth. Tongue thrusting is the abnormal tendency to push the tongue onto the back of the front teeth during swallowing, causing the teeth to protrude over time.

    After 20 years of ever increasing jaw/facial pain, it took 2 years of wearing splints to stabilize and readjust my bite and how my jaw moved...BUT at that 2 yr point I had absolutely no more jaw pain!!!!! Well, at least 99% no jaw pain. And from the beginning it was a steady improvement every month.

    I could've stopped at that point and just worn a splint forever after, 24/7, but I did orthodontics to 'fix' the set of my jaw, the space between, etc., permanently into the position that the splint accomplished with my 'bite'. It worked, despite the fact I was at the same time going thru the most emotionally painful/stressful and tension filled period of my life.

    For me my lower jaw was moved slightly forward and out of the TMJ and 'opened wider' ... and yes orthodontics are possible to make this a permanent thing! Teeth will actually grow to meet each other if there is an unfilled space, and jaw bone will build... and I did this in my 40s!

    I will also mention that getting regular massages did help to release the strain/spasm of all the muscles involved during this time... and also learning to not clench my teeth when stressed... but the orthodontics were THE major help.

    I hope this helps... I have been TMJ pain free for OVER 10 years now... and DESPITE my CFIDS crash of recent years. So you might want to try at least a consult with a dentist that belongs to that organization.

    I wish you the best in your quest...

    all the best,

  8. Redwillow

    Redwillow New Member

    The more I read about this jaw pain the more I realize I need to do something. Today it is really bad! I think a storm must be coming in. I have taken my migraine medication but the pain in my jaw, neck and behind my left eye and ear is awful!

    I have talked about this to my dentist, doctor and physio therapist, oh and the chiro too. I have spent a lot of money on chiro adjustments and physio therapy. It helps for a while but comes back again! I guess I will have to do some research and see if I can find a TMJ specialist in my area of Ontario Canada.

    thanks for listening to me whine
    hugs Marion (Redwillow)
  9. SleeplessNTN

    SleeplessNTN New Member

    I also suffered for years with jaw pain associated with TMJ. I also found a terrific dentist and after many, many trips and extensive corrective dental work have been 95% cured. Another thing I find beneficial,is to never open your mouth any wider than absolutely necessary and never chew gum. Also, I find it very helpful to cut up foods like sandwiches and eat them with a fork. During a flare up I never eat things like steaks or any other food that requires excessive chewing.
    The rice sock is also good for Fibro pain.It works really well on the muscles in my back when I lie down. Good Luck and I hope you feel better. God Bless.
    [This Message was Edited on 09/06/2006]
  10. mamagood

    mamagood New Member

    I have TMJ and the last time it bothered me was in July when I broke a tooth and had to have a root canal and Crown done. 5 dental appointments later my face was bruised and painful and I then came down with Strep. Just before vacation. I found that if I put a heat compress on my jaws it relaxed them enough to ease the pain and then do relaxation exercises for the face.

    Hope this helps.

  11. Redwillow

    Redwillow New Member

    relaxation exercise for your face? tell me more please.

    hugs Marion (Redwillow)
  12. Alyndra

    Alyndra New Member

    I've always had problems with my jaw, and was very young (about 3 or 4) when my doctor dx it TMJ. I've tried a night guard, and actually had my jaw lock closed with it in.

    Until just a few weeks ago, I had never been to an actual specialist for it. At the end of my first consultation, after some xrays, measuring, and manipulating the joint - the doctor has booked me for a full in hospital surgical procedure on both the right and left joint. What I got from the translation of doctor terminology to patient terms - is that he's going to remove cartiledge and fragmented "debris" and 'pad' an artificial joint into place.

    I'm assuming by the number of people with splints and guards (or at least success stories of) that surgery - even as a worst case scenerio - isn't common?

  13. Manaleon

    Manaleon New Member

    I've only had it a few times, but it was almost like a muscle spasm in my jaw, very achy and tender to touch.