hi my name is john, i am new to all this, but not to the pain, mine is in my legs, ancles, butt, and lower back, and my liver, and it's all the time, on a 1-10 most of the time about a 3-4 everyday, at times 7-8 did not know what this was or is called, i have another problem i have hep-c soo i assumed that was the cause, i feel soo tired all the time even after a nights sleep, that is on the norm about 5-6 hours, but always in pain, oh and even my arms, it seems to be getting worse, the last time i told a doctor i was told to take asprin, and tylanol, and both being bad on the liver, and i have done this for soo long it does not work, about 2 yrs now, well tomorrow i go to another doc, i just hope i can get some help, as i live in a small town, and alot of the doc,s are funny about giveing out pain pillsi have been takeing loratab #10 but that does not work anymore, what to do ??? please anyhelp ?? i am up too 3 aday any advice ?? thank's john p.s. i am affraid if i tell the new doc, he won't help, but i have to as i just can't take it ' what to do ??