Lab report, not so good

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia and ME & Chronic Fatigue Syndrome' started by gb66, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. gb66

    gb66 Active Member

    I just had my 6 months bloodwork done last week and my cholesterol, thyroid, and A1C blood sugar tests have all gone up.

    Cholesterol went from 279 to 318, TSH from 4.18 to 5.78, A1C from 5.8 to 6.0.

    I really expected better results. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm not overweight and I've been following a moderately low carb eating plan, but it is higher in protein to compensate for the reduction in carbs. I guess this is bad for the cholesterol.

    The thing that makes me upset is that I have to go on medications for cholesterol and thyroid at this point and I'm afraid of side effects. I have major issues with medication side effects on almost everything I take, even antibiotics.

    I feel overwhelmed right now. Wish I hadn't had the bloodwork done during the holidays. It's so depressing. Thanks for letting me vent. I could use some help. GB66
  2. sunflowergirl

    sunflowergirl Active Member

    I know nothing about thyroid so can't help you there. Do a big time search on the cholesterol and what you can do naturally. My husband and also SIL were on cholesterol meds......they're bad. My son also has very high cholsterol even though he's a vegetarian....go figure. He's cut out cheese, butter and eats a lot of veggies and he goes to the gym though not enough.

    Do you exercise? My SIL takes red rice yeast but even though that's natural the doctor said your cholesterol still needs to be checked when on it. And check into fish oil. I believe that's good for lowering it.
  3. gb66

    gb66 Active Member

    I would think your son would not have high cholesterol from everything I've read about the dietary cause. Nothing makes sense, does it. I eat a little more protein and cheese since being diabetic and that's not good for cholesterol.

    I don't know how to balance it. One diet cancels out the other it seems. I really don't want to go on any of those meds. I have very bad reactions to most all meds. I'm at a loss as to what to do next.

    I can't exercise at all with the severe fibro, arthritis, CFS, and pelvic prolapse. Wish I could. I used to love the stationary bike and water aerobics but can't do them anymore. GB66
  4. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    of HypoT....the thryoid board I've been a member of years likes members to be very low TSH almost close to zero, not really but low low TSH. The higher the TSH the more one is Hypo. Have you ever taken thyroid meds?

    TSH, Free T3 and Free T4 are critical labs that an MD needs to test....

    High cholesterol is a symptom of Hypo Thyroid. In Mary Shomon's book, she lists a bunch of symptoms of sluggish hypoT and high cholesterol is one of the signs.

    Your thyroid needs help and I'd sure be getting that fixed as best as possible. An integrative MD is one's best bet....I don't do well at all on Synthroid, synthetic T4 only, Armour is my best bet and I've been taking it since 2002.

    Get that thyoid supported and you'll get the cholesterol fixed too.
  5. deepak

    deepak Member

    I am reading books by Dr John Mcdougall, who apparently has Bill clinton following his diet now! Many videos and books by him online - he says the western high protein diet is BAD and advocates much more starch,

    One book is called - The starch solution.

    Pretty interesting.

    Love,
    Deepak
  6. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    sure doesn't set right with me. Staying away from "white" forms of foods is what I keep hearing out there.

    Greens are the best to be with, some light protein and feed the thyroid some much needed thyroid food.

    As we age especially, every organ, gland ages right along.


    Carbs/starches turn to Sugar in our body...GB how is your glucose level? Mine this last lab was a lovely 90, I've become pretty strict about carbs/starches and white foods period, so my glucose came down very nicely. [This Message was Edited on 12/11/2012]
  7. PITATOO

    PITATOO Member

    Your A1C is still in the good range. What were your triglycerides? What was your HDL which if it is high can offset total Cholesterol. If you have FM a stain drug may not be a good choice as it can cause muscle pain. I refuse to take it even though my Dr. asks me to about twice a year. My last was 151 and he wants me to take a statin, but my HDL went up so ratio is good, plus this was not a fasting test. Krill oil is good for raising HDL and lowering the bad. It upsets my stomach or I would take it, tried many times.

    If you do end up taking a statin please take COQ10. It's hard to say without knowing your diet. I know people say exercise, but that's impossible for me with FMS/CFIDS etc. great if you can tolerate it, even walking.

    A1C and high cholestol could be signs of metabolic syndrom, but don't know your HDL, or Triglycerides.

    I am not sure that anyone knows that statin or other drugs reduce your incendent of heart disease, I know it lowers your cholesterol and that's the main thing in getting the approval. Become a big debate now. I know my Father has beginnings of Alz. and low cholestorl is a factor in it He has to have everything low fat, no salt, no anything natrual. I find I"m better off have real butter (organic), I need salt or I get low blood pressure etc and fell worse - still suffering from night sweats - testosterone related. Just do some studying, Are you going back in 3 months to test again? I would and make sure you always get a copy of your own test results. Also what is your past history of these tests for yourself. Just some thoughts - Bobby
  8. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    site on CholesLo product which contains all natural ingredients including COQ10, which I take 200mg daily. It also contains Policosanol and Red Rice Yeast....

    I wouldn't touch those statin drugs.
  9. joanierav

    joanierav Member

    hi, is this the first time youve had abnormal thyroid blood work? you need to get on thyroid meds fast. thyroid cannot be controlled with diet. uncontrolled thyroid problems need to be treated, this can be serious.

    ive never read any messages on this site, from ppl not being able to tolerate thyroid meds. antidepressants, antibiotics , and most other meds yes, but not thyroid ones. they have the synthetic ones and the natural ones.

    good luck to you dear,

    joanierav
  10. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    had acupuncture for 7 yrs and claims beside glaucoma control and other issues, the acupuncturist supported her thryoid health. She can't see him now and needs some thyroid help.
  11. deepak

    deepak Member

    Interesting thing happened :) I picked up my starch solution book and flipped it open and it opened to the page which addressed your concern.

    He says it is a myth that starches convert into sugar. He says if that were the case many asian countries like japan and china and others like mexico which are predominantly starch based diet countries - would have had many fat and obese people -rather the opposite is true - and when these people shift to america and on the american diet they start getting obese and getting many more lifestyle diseases.

    he has a huge following if you go to his site and discussion boards.

    Love,
    Deepak
  12. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    you, then whatever, they are not for me at this time in my life, as a young kid, I did plenty of starches, burned them off too. Not many thin people in Mexico.
  13. gb66

    gb66 Active Member

    I know absolutely nothing about thyroid problems, starting from scratch. I've never had this show up until recently. What do you like better about the armour over the synthroid? Have you had any side effects from either of these?

    I eat lower carb so I don't eat a lot of starchy foods, I control portions when I do eat any. My blood glucose level is good right now for someone with diabetes 2. Doctor is pleased with it.

    I'm not sure how to interpret my labs on thyroid or cholesterol. Any help from anyone is appreciated. GB66
  14. gb66

    gb66 Active Member

    Unfortunately, starchy high carbohydrate foods are not recommended for diabetics. I have to limit them, though I love them. I eat a moderate amount of lower fat protein, vegetables, and some cheese, a couple of eggs a week, and a little fruit. GB66
  15. deepak

    deepak Member

    Dear Gb,

    There is a nutritional doctor in India called Dr Nandita Shah who runs this place called Sharan India.

    She has residential programs of 21 days in which she reverses peoples diabetes. She is a very strong advocate of veganism and like Dr John Mcdougall is against a protein based diet. She has wonderful results with most people achieving atleast a 70 % reduction in their diabetes and some 100 % !! .

    Please good her or Sharan india.

    Love,
    deepak
  16. gb66

    gb66 Active Member

    I'm still trying to get the rest of my lab results from the doctor. The nurse was supposed to fax them to me yesterday but didn't. Maybe today.

    They left off the page with the HDL and my fasting blood sugar and the triglycerides. My past history shows an increase in cholesterol and thyroid in the past year. I really don't want a statin drug.

    I have CFS/FM and cannot exercise either.

    I'll post my cholesterol numbers as soon as I get them. Maybe you can make sense of them! Thanks. GB66
  17. Beadlady

    Beadlady Member

    I too was just at the drs to review my labs. It is in my bag in the car & its cold outside and no light to see with otherwise I would go it.

    My cholestral is high too, but the good part is good, and my dr. always talks abuot the part we get from our families and the part that takes the hit from the stress in our lives.

    Because of Fibro she doesn't want me on statin drugs either, but I do take Krill oil. {I tried fish oil caps for a couple of months but they made me really sick}

    I have been using more Olive oil when I cook--I know that can be hard to adjust too--train yourself using butter and olive oil and slowly cut back.

    Good luck to you.

  18. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    This is discouraging. Prayers going up.

    Love, Mikie
  19. sascha

    sascha Member

    my cholesterol, blood sugar, and blood pressure tests were going up. (thyroid also, but she increased my prescription dosage and i'm in normal range again)

    i started vegs, nuts and seeds juicing for one meal a day maybe half a year ago. it's not juicing exactly- it's called "extracting"- i used to use a big juicer and it was good,, but i didn't get the results i'm getting now.

    i got my most recent blood test results a couple of weeks ago, and my blood sugar was back down in normal range, and my bp had gone back down to low-normal range where it used to be. great news for me.

    for cholesterol- i don't want to take statins. got bad reaction when i tried. i found out about extra-virgin coconut oil and its benefits, and take that daily (@ 2TBsp in green tea; 1 TBsp in each mug) plus cook with it.

    use Dr. Mercola's math formula to determine whether or not you're in 'safe' range. you divide your HDL (good) count by your total count. this gives you a number that to put you in good range needs to be .25 or higher. after including extra virgin coconut oil for a time, my HDL tested at 81. and putting my numbers into the formula gave me a .28 result, which is in good range.

    wow i just noticed a progression with my HDL. 2007 was 52. 2011 HDL was 63. 2012 (most recent) HDL was 81.

    google Dr. Mercola's online inf for more on using his formula to determine where you stand on the cholesterol range. consult Bruce Fife for good inf on extra virgin coconut oil and how it can help with cholesterol. i think Dr. Mercola has inf, too. extra virgin coconut oil has gotten a very bad and unfair rap.

    as for veg. juicing, i got a Nutribullet. it's astonishing how good the drinks are. i always put in some nuts-seeds combination for increased nutrition, but also to prevent foam from forming during extraction process. i fill container with greens of all sorts (esp kale, swiss chard, parsley)- only organic, plus celery, carrots, beets- various combinations- almonds, flax seeds- lemon juice and a little stevia for flavoring/sweetening. sometimes i put frozen raspberries, blueberries, apple pieces. no heavy fruits like bananas for me. chunks of ginger when i put org. tomatoes in. i have this drink daily for one of my meals.

    i hope i've helped. *also, simple carbs act on the body like sugar, so i cut them down/out as much as i can. i stopped gluten long time ago. but g-f baked products i limit, a lot, although sometimes i cave.

    don't panic! and take good care of yourself- best of luck- salome

  20. jaminhealth

    jaminhealth Well-Known Member

    but thinking of how I struggled with a Sluggish thyroid for over 10 yrs and never getting the dx on it....I've wrote about it plenty on this Board....

    I didn't finally get on Armour until I was 63ish....so I "knew" something was wrong when I was 53 or thereabouts....

    Thyroid IS SO important....for ME, I don't like or do well with synthroid, many don't, and enough claim to do good with it....it doesn't do a good job for many people, made me MORE FATIGUE when I tried it....

    I've always said here, fibro and thyroid are so connected...


    Save yourself a lot of time and energy, don't leave the doc's office without a copy of your labs....everyone needs to know how to read those labs.....[This Message was Edited on 12/12/2012]