liver cleanse/ Milk thistle

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by street129, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. street129

    street129 New Member

    what is the difference between a liver cleanse and taken Milk thistle
  2. simpsons

    simpsons Member

    milk thistle is a very clever herb my medical herbalist gives this to me. do a google and you will see. sorry not well enough to tell you more brain not functioning but its well worth investigating
  3. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Milk thistle is an herb which helps protect and strengthen the liver and helps detoxify it too.

    I've used milk thistle as part of a liver detox, while taking other supplements specifically designed to detox the liver.

    I think if you wanted to do a serious liver detox, you would need to take something besides milk thistle, but milk thistle should be a part of it.

  4. street129

    street129 New Member

    i've been taking milk thistle for many years, i had elavated liver function, and the brand that was recamended to me help me get my liver back down where it should be. i take 1 for maintenance, now and again. but i didnt know about the liver cleance will jump on that one soon.

    if anyone wants the milk thistle that keep my liver in check, let me know, better still this is what i been using that was recamended
    [This Message was Edited on 09/18/2009]
  5. gapsych

    gapsych New Member

    Milk thistle has not been shown in any scientific studies to be beneficial and for patients with our DD and other illnesses can actually be harmful. If your body is not "detoxing" whatever that means, you would be in the hospital.

    What liver enzymes were elevated.

    I had high liver enzymes. After having numerous tests it was found it came from my bones and they thought I had Paget's Disease. I had a complete bone scan and nothing was found. That was reassuring.

    Sometimes a liver enzyme can go up for no apparent reason. It can be from medications which include supplements as well as drinking or faffy liver from being overweight.

    Mine are now normal and I am tested every six months since I take a statin.

    High liver enzymes can mean nothing to more serious disorders. But best to check it out and not try to self diagnose and medicate. If the milk thistle helped it may be that it would have come down by itself.

    A complicated medical issue which needs to be evaluated by a physician or liver specialist.

    I am writing this post for informational purposes to show all sides of this topic. My new strategy. Provide information and people can take what they want from it.

  6. mbofov

    mbofov Active Member

    Gapsych -

    My neighbor has stage 4 kidney disease. She’s one step away from dialysis but her doctor has managed to keep her at this stage for some years now, amazingly enough. However, it’s undisputed that her kidneys have serious problems and probably eventually will kill her. Her quality of life has been severely adversely impacted by her malfunctioning kidneys.

    I think this is a somewhat apt analogy to what happens when our bodies don’t detox property. You rightly say that if our bodies didn’t detox (at all), we’d be dead (depending on the level of toxins, of course). But there are degrees of detox functioning, just like there are degrees of kidney functioning. Someone who chugs lots of alcohol very quickly can easily die from alcohol poisoning because their detox ability will be overwhelmed by the alcohol.

    If a person has a heavy load of toxins from various environmental exposures, and if their bodies’ detox pathways are working somewhat, but aren’t up to par (just like my neighbor with her weak kidneys), well, they probably won’t die, but sure might feel sick.

    You might wonder how I know this, and it is from personal experience. If you’d like to hear my experience, I’d be happy to tell you. I didn’t grow up knowing about toxins in our bodies. I learned it the hard way, about 7 years ago, when my digestion was screwed up and I felt weak and sick and basically poisoned.

    It’s really very interesting (at least to me! because I got so much better). Let me know if you’d like to hear about it -


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