Thought I'd let you guys know what happened at my unexpected vist to FFC Torrance (Los Angeles) today: Well, I was reading a few posts here this morning, getting ready to begin working, when I got a surprise call from Dr. Holtorf's office, asking if I could move my January twenty-something appointment up to today at 1:30, which worked perfectly for me, especially since I have almost met my $2500 deductible for this year, not that much of the visit will be covered, I'm quite sure. Fortunately, I had already filled out all the paperwork last week, when they mailed it to me; so I was ready to go. Well, I've got to say, I found Dr. Holtorf and the staff to be extremely gracious, helpful, and informative. Dr. Holtorf spent a lot of time with me, listened carefully to everything, and explained everything to me in great detail. He quickly understood that I would be happiest and most likely feel most safe not taking drugs or pharmaceuticals that haven't been on the market for an extended period of time and would prefer natural alternatives when at all possible. So -- get this -- they took 30 vials of blood, and I need to have five more taken when I have an empty stomach! Then I go back in a month to discuss the results, but I'm probably going to have to do that visit with the physician's assistant because that is a little less expensive, and this trip cost me around $750 before bloodwork. Dr. Holtorf checks in on the visit anyway, and it is about half of the cost. Anyway, they sent me home with three things for energy, a couple of things for pain control, and before I knew how much my bill was going to be, I also said I would like the stuff that keeps your skin looking nice and wrinkle free. I also had a lovely shot that has B-12, glutathione, and AMP. He told me to continue on with the things that I'm doing in the meantime but changed one of my meds to something that he felt would be more effective and healthier for me than what I'm currently taking. They are supposed to be sending me another one via mail or something because it needs to be compounded. Whatever is in these supplements, I do have more energy, and my pain seems to have chilled out. (The pain has been doing better since I cut the Splenda, and the energy has been doing better since I added the ribose and Ultra Inflamex; so this addition really seems to have helped.) Though I was not expecting the cost to be this high, it will be worth it if I feel better. What I liked right away is that they made me feel so comfortable. I've been going to my internist for a long time and feel a great deal of loyalty to him. It was very nice, though, to go someone that specializes in the kind of problems that we've got. It was like he had seen it all and understood completely. He was so very gentle. It made me feel very safe, which is difficult to do these days. All in all, though it was definitely way expensive, I give FFC Torrance two thumbs up so far. I know that other people have been there as well and would love to know how you're doing now that it's been a while. 30 - 35 viles of blood???? OMG!