Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by Rose_Red, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. Rose_Red

    Rose_Red New Member

    I hope it's OK to post all these link but I read the rules (yay - i finally found them!) and they seem to fall under the guidelines. I was in the Army (no I didn't go overseas) but the info and relationships between Gulf War Syndrome and FMS made me spend 3 entire days researching mycoplasmal infections.

    Depending on the study it shows that anywhere between 50 - 85% of FMS/ CFS/ GWS have a mycoplasmal infection. Since quite a bit of Dr. Nicholsons research is funded by the Department of Defence (Why is the department of Defense researching FMS and CFS anyway?) you will find his articles devoted entirely to the illnesses and findings. There is no speculation regarding conspiracy theory's. For that I porvided links to Nexus Magazine and

    I would LOVE to hear your thoughts and opinions on this little project I took on. Sometimes hope is the only thing left to cling to. Right now I'm hoping tat I have a bio-enginered illness because it is treatable. Chances are that I probably do. I would've already sent my bloodwork in but you're supposed to be off of anti-biotics for weeks prior to the PCR testing. I'm counting down the days.
    I haven't seen too many posts referring to Mycoplasmal Infections. The latest research shows that 50-85% of people with FMS/CFS/GWS, etc. have mycoplasmal infections.

    The possibility that my FMS could be made tolerable with a year of docycyline treatments provides new hope for me.

    Dr. Garth Nicholson is the leading researcher on mycoplasmal infections. His daughter came home with Gulf War Syndrome which then spread through the family. He has had research funded through the Department of Defence so you'll never read him saying anything about bioengineered illnesses. He does however believe that FMS, CFS and GWS are basically the same condition.

    Dr. Nicholson recommends using Medical Diagnostic Labratories for the PCR (DNA) blood tests to test for myoplasma infections. You need a referring physician to order the tests. The MYCOPLASMA PANEL tests for the 4 most common strains including the ones thought to cause/worsen FMS et al.

    For those of us whose insurance will not pay for this test - it costs less than $300!!!!! The people at the lab are very knowledgable and helpful. Once the test is ordered they will mail out the shipping package with directions to your doctor. It is reccomended that you do not have the PCR test done within 4 weeks of anti-biotic usage because of the likelyhood of false-negative results.

    Run by Dr. Garth Nicholson

    PCR (DNA) Blood Testing for Mycoplasmal Infections

    MYCOPLASMA (science magazine article)
    The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases
    Several strains of mycoplasma have been "engineered" to become more dangerous.
    They are now being blamed for AIDS, cancer, CFS, MS, CJD and other neurosystemic diseases.

    Mycoplasmal Infections in Chronic Illnesses: (research paper)
    Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndromes, Gulf War Illness, HIV-AIDS and Rheumatoid Arthritis

    New Treatments for Chronic Infections Found in Fibromyalgia Syndrome,
    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Rheumatoid Arthritis and Gulf War Illnesses
    Prof. Garth L. Nicolson (research paper)

    GULF WAR SYNDROME - FACT OR FICTION? (an incredible collection of links)

    CFS Research - Mycoplasmal Infections (website)

    Mycoplasma Infection - From GWI To Chemtrail Illness (article)
    -Mycoplasma Information Package By Sharon Briggs SHASTA CFIDS, CA USA 8-00

    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Radio Show Jan 4th, 1998 with Dr. Garth Nicolson

  2. Jeanne-in-Canada

    Jeanne-in-Canada New Member

    We have discussed mycoplasms before. I even posted a controversial article on the govt. bioengineered forms from a Canadian vet and researcher who has a paper trail and is affiliated w/ Nicholson.

    I was quite surprised that people were so receptive to it. Shocked, amazed, but not dismissive.

  3. ldbgcoleman

    ldbgcoleman New Member

    I am taking Doxycyclen for mycoplasma. It is the same thing that causes walking pneumonia if you get it in your lungs. Why regular Drs haven't figured these things out is beyond me! Lynn
  4. Jeanne-in-Canada

    Jeanne-in-Canada New Member

    I'm not quite sure what the difference is, but I was treated w/ abx for it, quite disastrously.

    First my disclaimer, that abx treatment works wonderfully for some. I have to share my own experience and warn to proceed w/ caution though.

    I was put on low dose Tetracycline, pulsed every second day. My env. doc had perscribed another one, Zithromycin maybe, or could have been Doxy, it wasn't covered so I went w/ the 2nd choice which was. I had huge reservations because me and my doc already knew I had a problem w/ systemic candida. Before i did the abx, I'd rarely had yeast vaginitis though. My GP had huge reservations. Though he was very support of my env. illness dx and always knew I was sick, he had the conservative doctor's veiw that of course I would carry mycoplasm antibodies, most did and mycoplasms don't really make people very sick.

    I went w/ my env. doc, who I trusted more at the time. She assured me that if the mycoplasms were knocked down, then my immune system could fight off the yeast. Wrong.

    I stuck it out for 9 mths, taking them every 2nd day, every 2nd day being hell w/ all symptoms and pain flaring. I should have stopped after a few mths when I saw the candida getting out of control, chronic vaginitis, one after the other. by the time I did stop, the damage has been permanent so far, in taht I've never gotten the chronic vaginitis fully under control. After her wonder treatment, she had no good treatments, to treat the treatment side effects.

    this will not, and does not happen to everyone. But if it does, back off. the mycoplasm levels wax and wane still anyway. It was all for nought in my case. And I wasn't even taking a broad spectrum abx, but a narrow spectrum one, low dose, pulsed.

  5. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    We have discussed mycoplasma infections a lot. We have also discussed Gulf War Illness. I won't replicate my posts here. If you do a search, you will find them.

    Love, Mikie
  6. Rose_Red

    Rose_Red New Member

    I already have systemic candida. believe it or not - my tonsils were infected for a year! I was on Augmentin, Ceftin - all the heavy hitters. No one could find out what was wrong with me. I went from specialist to specialist. I even had my lymph nodes biopsied.

    then one day I finally got to see my family doc instead of his nurse practioner (and no - I'm not slamming them, just this one in particular) and he looked in my throat.

    I was 30 years old - tonsilitis was too simple of a diagnosis!

    So, aftr being on antibiotics for an entire year yeast has become a problem. It took 2 years to get it under control. The Rx's only made it worse. depending on my Ph - it would swing between yeast and gardenella.

    When it acts up I eat LOTS of live yogurt and take my acidiphilous.

    I'll make my own vinegar (to acidify) douche or plain water (to aklify) to help readjust the ph.

    The one thing that wrks best of all is Boric Acid suppositories, You can get them as prescriptions or you can by gelatin capsules and boric acid and make your own. You can make 100 capsules for 1/2 of what an Rx of 15 costs.

    Not to gross anyone out and men need not continue to read - sometimes the body needs some help cleansing itself. Gentle scraping makes such an incredible and immediate diference. I do that right before I get in the shower and then vinegar douche. It usually burns but you know you're not leaving any icky bacteria behind that way.

    Good luck with it.

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