Need Help/Advice from Beauticians & Others with Scalp Psoriasis..

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by JLH, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. JLH

    JLH New Member

    Out of the blue, I got all of this crud on my scalp. After a couple of months of trying different shampoos, etc., asking my primary doc and rheumy, I went to a dermatologist about it.

    She said is was scalp psoriasis. I've been doing what she said to do and washing it with the different medicated shampoos, etc.; however, it is still there! Yuck!

    When I try to scrape some of the scaley patches with a fine-toothed comb before washing my hair, the comb will sometimes "pick" my scalp and will cause a sore on my scalp.

    My question to a beautician (I hope we have some on the board!) is: after washing my hair with medicated shampoo, if I mixed up salt water to rinse my hair, will the salt water damage my hair or scalp? (I can't imagine my scalp getting in any worse shape!)

    I thought of the salt water rinse because people with rinse their mouths out with salt water to help heal blisters, etc., so I thought it might work on healing the scalp sores, too.

    What do you think?

    This scaley crud is killing me!!! I just hate it! It itches, looks terrible--like a baby with cradle cap. It keeps coming back no matter what I use on my scalp!

    I have dozens of different shampoos, even dog coal tar shampoo because it has twice the amount of coal tar in it as does the drug store coal tar!

    Need help!
    Janet
    [This Message was Edited on 08/18/2005]
  2. CFIDSNicole

    CFIDSNicole New Member

    You might look into Nioxin shampoo--they have a scalp therapy kind that my hair dresser said worked wonders on her brother who had some sort of scalp problem. It smells kind of like peppermint--I love it. I don't have scalp psoriasis, though.

    Nicole
  3. razorqueen

    razorqueen Member

    don't know if I'd recommend salt water, especiailly if you have color-treated hair, it will be harsh on your hair. I'd try a professional shampoo bought at a hair salon that has zinc in it. Zinc has healing properties in it. AG has a dandruff shampoo with zinc. I am not sure if you can get that in the USA tho, as it is Canadian made. Tar products just strip the skin off your scalp and doesn't heal it.
  4. WeBee7

    WeBee7 New Member

    When the sun comes out, when the rain starts, when I'm stressed...all cause the breakouts. I too have the steriod topical for my head. Works great. I had to stop using the shampoos, conditioners and hair sprays. Most have chemical and scents that agrivate my scalp. I just use baby shampoo and a moisture conditioner, and there is a shampoo out there called "psorasis" that works well in my flares. Pretty much the key is to get it under control and keep it maintained. Ask your doctor about the topical, you may use a lot at first, but once you get it down, you will just use it to maintain. I never scrape the scales. There is raw skin under there all the time. I just keep the chemicals out of it and keep it cleaned. Hope you find something that works.
    kb
  5. JLH

    JLH New Member

    Thanks everyone for your replies.

    hanginthere: Do you know what the name of the steroid liquid is? The dermatologist gave me some samples of a foam to put on my scalp. Maybe I need a script, with plenty of refills, for it--or either the liquid steroid. The vet is the one who talked me into getting the conditioning coal tar dog shampoo for my hair! It has twice the amount of coal tar in it--he said he has used it on his head every day for two years and it kept his down!

    nicole: I have tried the Nioxin--the half strength off-the-shelf at Wal-Mart and the full strength by prescription; but, I have never tried the Nioxin Scalp Therapy stuff that is sold at beauty shops. I'll look where I go next time.

    razorqueen: Same on the shampoo with zinc in it. I'll quit the salt water rinses!! I just thought that one up myself!! DUH!! LOL And I will look at the beauty shop for a shampoo with zinc in it. Thanks for this info!

    webee: Boy are you correct about there being raw skin under those scales all the time!!!

    I just wish there were some way to get rid of this stuff for good ... and it never return!!

    Janet
  6. PVLady

    PVLady New Member

    My Dermatologist gave me a special shampoo called Dermarest Psorasis Foam Shampoo.

    It is 3% Salicylic Acid. He also gave me a cortisone foam to use at night.

    Recently, Head and Shoulders came out with a stronger shampoo called "Intensive Treatment" It is 1% Selenium Sulfide and also seems to work.

    I think the best thing is to use the proper shampoo and conditioner often to keep the scalp under control.
  7. jaltair

    jaltair New Member

    My dog has had a really bad problem with his skin, and the doctor told me to use the VET brand (I believe that is the name - the bottle is at our home, I'm not there) shampoo - a medicated type.

    NOW .. the vet told me that he used it on his own hair everyday and that it did help his psoriasis.

    The shampoo was not a "tar" shampoo, and it smells really nice when I use it on my dog. In addition, the dog's skin condition is well controlled.

    My husband has a patch of psoriasis ... I'm thinking that when we are home I'll have him try the shampoo. Will let you know how it goes!
  8. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    Put some Neosporin on the spots. It will help it heal fast and keep more scales from forming. You have to apply it every day or even several times a day.

    Skin conditions often accompany an unusually stressful time in one's life. If you can, find time to sit quietly and meditate.

    Love, Mikie
  9. JLH

    JLH New Member

    hanginginthere: the foam was called Olux (it was the strong one) then also Luxiq (it was the weaker one). Was your son's a liquid or foam? Whatever else you can find out about it, or something else that he does, will help!

    jaltair: do you know what is in the VET brand dog shampoo? Is it coal tar or salacitic acid? Let me know if your hubby tries it! My vet uses the one he sold me every day!

    Mikie: the Neosporin ointment or cream? And, I'm sure stress does bring these type of things out; however, when mine first started, I don't remember anything stressful!


    Thanks to everyone .. can't type much more ... it's 1:00 a.m. and my back is really hurting!! I've been here at the computer since sometime between 9:30 - 10:00 pm. !!

    (((Hugs)))
    Janet
  10. BronzeWomn

    BronzeWomn New Member

    Try using the shampoos out there that has tar in it..they dont smell great. I have a daughter has had this problem since she was a baby and she says it get really sore if u take a comb and part into it. Any mostly Coal tar shampoo that is use continuely, Walgreens has therapeutic T+plus Gel shampoo,it controls the psoriasis, seborrheic dermatititi and dandruff. Make sure alot of COAL TAR is in it thats the secret and wash with it all the time. Hope this helps.
  11. phoebe1

    phoebe1 New Member

    If all else fails, you can give this a try: Elizabeth Anne's baby shampoo with a couple of drops of 100% tea tree oil.
    Good luck!
    Phoebe
  12. Mikie

    Mikie Moderator

    There are other things you can use but it has to be something oily. The Neosporin works much faster than anything else I have seen.

    Love, Mikie
  13. bubblegum

    bubblegum New Member

    Hi Janet,
    I have a couple of suggestions. Try using a boar bristle hair brush. Brush your scalp before shampooing. The brushing tends to make the skin cells fluff off the scalp easier. Also try using some baby oil dabbed on a cotton ball on the stubborn areas. This will soften the bad spots and help to prevent open wounds that scraping does. One more thing...ask your hairdresser if she knows of a shampoo that feel gritty like a facial scrub. I have used one but I can't remember the brand. I was very effective in removing the yucky stuff on the scalp.

    Salt water might be painful if you have any open wounds.

    Good luck
    Sandy
  14. JLH

    JLH New Member

    Thanks for your ideas!

    Is a boar bristle brush stiff? Are these available at WalMart, or do I have to go to a hair supply store such as Sally's to get one?

    And ... I'll also ask my hairdresser (or call Sally's) and ask them about the gritty shampoo. That does sound like a good idea--to shampoo with something gritty to help "scratch" off the scales while shampooing!

    I need all of the ideas that I can get!! And .. I'm going to try them all until I find one that works for me!!!

    Thanks again,
    Janet
  15. kgtexan

    kgtexan New Member

    I do not have psoriasis on my scalp, but I have it lots of other places.

    Two things that help me put it in remission are
    (1) sunlight - about 15 minutes exposure on the area twice a week
    (2) adding 1-2 Tblsp of Flaxseed oil with lignans to my diet daily.

    It might be worth a try & the cost is minimal. When I don't do these 2 things, mine flares up like crazy!
    [This Message was Edited on 08/22/2005]
  16. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    Got it before and have it now again. My whole head is full of it.
    Another of the little symptoms which so many of us have?
    Or as micki says, just stress ?`???
    karinaxx
  17. JLH

    JLH New Member

    karinaxx,

    Scalp Psorosis is like cradle cap in babies. It's a thick covering of while scaley, crusty stuff on your scalp that will not disappear! When you comb in with a fine tooth comb, it will flake off like dandruff, but still remain on your scalp.

    You said that your whole head is full of it and that you had had it before and now have it again. Are you sure it is scalp psorosis then?

    Once you get it, you never get rid of it.

    I don't think that it's one of those things that people with fibro get--lots of people without fibro get it, too.

    I don't know what causes it, or how we get it. I don't know if stress has anything to do with it or not.

    I just have a pretty good-size patch of it on the top of my head. I just woke up one day with a lit bit of it that grew to a large portion, and have had it ever since.


    Janet
  18. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    it is not one big patch, rather patches over the head, which i can scratch of. it sometimes also smells a bit, though i wash my hair often.it is just sometimes like now much more, like all over the head.
    I guess i should see some skin specialist.
    karinaxx
  19. TXFMmom

    TXFMmom New Member

    I have it, my father had the over the entir body. I just get it on my feet and on my scalp.

    However, the flaking often disguises infection, as well.

    I have found that one must loosen the stuff, but doing it while shampooing often keeps it from becoming raw. I have had success with Nixoral shampoo. My insurance company made me go to the generic shampoo and it doesn't work as well.

    I have also had succes by using both the neutrogena tar with the Nixoral with both left on for two to three minutes before being rinsed.
  20. teacher

    teacher New Member

    Have you tried tea tree or lavender essential oils? They can be mixed with a carrier oil (jojoba, almond, vegeatable) and applied directly to the affected areas. They can also be applied without diluting (depends on how sensitive you are). They can also be added to a simple unscented shampoo.

    Teacher