OT: question about my 11y/o son

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by amymb74, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. amymb74

    amymb74 New Member

    I'm hoping somebody here might have some ideas for me. My son vomits regularly for no rhyme or reason. This has been going on for years - his doctor gave him alovert because he said dark circles under his eyes indicate allergies. When that didn't help they gave him nasonex. After I insisted on further help, they gave him pulmonary testing, bloodwork & a barium swallow which were ok.

    This is really affecting him. He never knows when or where this will happen. I have gotten good at knowing when this will happen because he makes a sort of gagging noise. He says he feels like there is something stuck in his throat & I think in trying to clear his throat he upsets his stomach?? I don't know.
    I have tried to keep a journal for several months & found no pattern. I think his doctor doesn't feel its a problem. I think its a huge problem that an 11y/o vomits his food up 5 or 6 times a week!!

    Sorry if this is kind of gross. Hope somebody here can head me in the right direction with this. Thanks AMY
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  2. Alyndra

    Alyndra New Member

    Try not giving your son any fruits or vegetables for 10 days.

    Seriously! lol

    I have what's called Oral Allergy Syndrome (OAS) which is an allergy to fruits & veggies.

    If you look under my profile and go to the post "An allergic reaction" from a few days ago it gives a bit more details.

    Basically, some fruits & veggies cause most problems in my mouth. Tongue & gums swelling, etc.

    Some, cause no "oral" reaction what so ever.

    If I eat tomatoes - my throat swells and I feel like I have to try and cough SOMETHING up. If I go with the urge to cough, because there isn't actually anything there - I end up vomiting.

    Things like lettuce though... lol

    Lettuce gives me no oral reaction, or even anything in the throat.. but it does quite a job on my stomach and I'll end up being sick for days.

    Another problem with having OAS - is sometimes there are foods that just DO NOT digest AT ALL!

    While I was in the hospital at one point, my doctors gave me corn to see how long it would take my body to digest it.

    Nothing happened the first 5 days, and from about 6-10 days was when it started coming back up. It had literally sat in my stomach for over a week. This of course can cause alot of confusion when your trying to figure out what it is that's causing the problem - because 10 days after you've eaten something, you usually would assume it was out of your system already!!

    Myself I had allergy testing done that also showed allergies to fruits & veggies - but overall when I avoided the fruits & veggies; it was about day 10 when all the symptoms would start to go away.



    Might be worth a try! Doctors don't like to admit that someone can be allergic to the foods they promote most - and at 11 I'm sure he won't argue much about not having to eat them for a bit!

    I was a kid when I started having these problems, and it took over 15 years to find a doctor who actually knew what was happening! Antihistamines won't help with this problem, and I'd be more worried about the side effects your son is exposed to just by using the Nasonex!

    And don't worry, there's nothing gross about what's going on with your son. 5-6 times was what I used to pull off in a day! ;)

    ~Amanda
  3. amymb74

    amymb74 New Member

    He doesn't really eat fruit or veggies much but lots of tomato sauce - he loves pizza in any form! I was thinking of only food he ate in his last meal. Could it be something like the sauce or just raw food? Thanks so much. AMY
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  4. backporchrags

    backporchrags New Member

    was vomiting regularly for 6 months. It was found out that she had a small collapse in her lower intestine. I do not think that is a very common occurance however.
    Have there been any x-rays done on his esophogus? Could there be a lesion?
    Does your insurance give you the option of another doctor?
    I am not one to rush to the doctor at the first cough my children get, but something like vomiting would have me as scared as you are. Stomach acid can permenently damage teeth and gums. The erosion of the esophagus can also be a huge problem.
    Your son may not be getting the nutrients he needs form his food. ( some mineral deficencys are misunderstood to be psychicological problems }
    There is so much at stake that I would search until I found a doctor who would take this problem seriously.
    I also agree that an allergy may be the culprit. The prievious poster had a compelling story.
    I wish you and your son the best of fortune in this matter. If possible please let us know how you both are doing.
    Hugs,
    A
  5. Alyndra

    Alyndra New Member

    But it could literally be anything from fresh to frozen, cooked or juiced!

    It's really a pain in the rear.

    As someone else said (I can never remember names from one screen to another anymore) it could be very worthwhile to have some xrays or scopes done of his upper digestive system.

    Possibly even ask to see a doctor that specializes in Ear, Nose and Throat. With people's luck these days it could even be something like a problem with his sinus's.

    Hope you can find something that helps!

    ~Amanda
  6. amymb74

    amymb74 New Member

    Now I will call the doc tomorrow with more confidence because I won't feel that I'm over reacting. I get so frustrated with doctors. And, if there is a skin allergy test that will show if he has a food allergy than I don't understand why they wouldn't order one (they must have thought it was food since they had me keeping a food journal last year). Instead they keep trying different allergy meds. I am so irritated!

    Also, does the allergy meds he's tried (alovert & nasonex) have any affect on food allergies? Thanks again. AMY
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  7. kellyann

    kellyann New Member

    where a child vomited often and it was celtic disease, hope I spelled it right. Anyway, some people are unable to process wheat products. Maybe you could do a search and see if the symptoms are similar to your son's. Just an idea.
    Let us know if you find out anything, and I hope the little guy feels better very soon!
    Kellyann
  8. lenasvn

    lenasvn New Member


    Here is some gastro disorders you must look into.

    http://pedsgi.org/pageDisplay.jsp?pageid=13582

    As for the dark cirles; If I vomited 5-6 times/ week, I would have black tractor tires under my eyes. It may be allergies, but the docs should do testing to look for the most common types.

    Good luck
  9. alaska3355

    alaska3355 New Member

    for food allergies...it would be more in depth than a skin test. Maybe he's allergic to nightshades...tomatoes, peppers, things on pizza (sorry!). It would be worth it to find out, then he could avoid foods that make him throw up. Terri
  10. karinaxx

    karinaxx New Member

    deseases on my post autoimmune deseases at the end of that post.
    It sounds he has Allergies, most probably to some food.
    it is easy to check this with an Allergie specialist with a prick test.
    second i would see a specialist for gastro. stuff, they can order bloodtest for food allergies or intolerance.
    dont leave it at this, it is definitly not nothing.
    hope that helps
    karina
    sorry spelling and so on; having severe brain fog in the moment.
  11. Alyndra

    Alyndra New Member

    Personally, there aren't any antihistamines that help with my food allergies.

    I take 20mg Reactine in the morning, 50mg Benedryl at night and I use Nasonex as well in the morning & night.

    Either then not eating my problem foods, I haven't found anything that helps with food allergies.

    Sorry!

    ~Amanda
  12. amymb74

    amymb74 New Member

    Also, I am keeping another food diary to bring to his doc. He has an appt April 4th. If they are not willing to figure this out than I will bring him someplace else. Thank you all. AMY
  13. code34me

    code34me New Member

    My son is 3 and he has Sensory Intregration Disorder. It is a nuerological problem prossessing things. His biggest issue is food. He does not do textures well and does not eat well. He can just look at some food and vomit? He does have certain foods that he will eat but for the most part he has been raised on Pediasure. Just a thought and wondered how you son felt about food? You can look it up and see if any of it relates to you son?

    From one mommy to another!
    Codey
  14. Cromwell

    Cromwell New Member

    Is a pediatric gastro seeing him. If not this is a must. He could have two things, one a slinding hiatus hernia that is hard to detect unless it is filmed when happening or a diaphram problem, similar to the hiccup reflex.

    I had a period when I could not stop retching, it was awful and it turned out it was a parasite called crypto and another called giardia I had from the tap water.

    Also it could be irritation of the vagus nerve.

    All of these things need a specialist, going to an adult gastro or a regular pediatrician is no help. You may have to relaly look for an expert.

    It could also be a sinus problem BYW where he gets mucus caught in the back of his throat that gags him.

    Good luck

    Love Anne C
  15. amymb74

    amymb74 New Member

    We went to his doc this week & he did refer him to a pediatric GI doc but can't see him until June.
    Also, doc said he doesn't think it could be a food allergy because he would not feel ok after he vomits. He said a food allergy would make him feel ill for hours or days. And, a food allergy would not make him have difficulty swallowing.
    He was also not concerned that he lost 9 pounds because he is not under weight according to the growth chart.
    Hopefully the GI doc will be of help to us.
    Thanks for all your help. AMY
  16. chickadee

    chickadee New Member

    but wanted to relate my experience with the son throwing up.

    One of my twin boys started throwing up regularly for no apparent reason. He was 4 or 5 years old at the time. I took him to the doctor and he could not find anything wrong.

    Then, one day he asked me if he could do something and when I told him "no", he replied that if I didn't let him he would throw up. I told him then and there if he did he would clean it up. He threw up and I made him clean it up.
    Problem solved.

    He's 47 years old now and I asked him not too long ago if he has ever thrown up since. He said he couldn't remember.

    Would hope your son could be cured so easily. I have never known of anyone (besides my son) that could throw up at will.

    Peace,
    Chickadee
  17. sfrazier

    sfrazier New Member

    Hi Amy, My middle daughter was doing a lot of throwing up for no apparent reasons and because of other things that were going on in her life I thought she was making herself sick but I was wrong. Turns out she had acid reflux and an ulcer. Her doctor put her on the strongest ulcer medicine and within a month she was doing much better. Now she is able to tell a head of time when she is going to throw up. She is also able to know when it's something she ate or if she is upset and that is causing her stomach problems. Keep strong and don't let the doctors tell you that nothing is really wrong because that might not be the case. It might not be physical or could be that it is physical now but started out mental. If you son is one that is kind hearted and when things around him or his friends are going bad he takes it to heart to much. This is what caused my daughters ulcer. Good luck and know that your not alone....SueF