Our wonderful dog is ill -- very sad.

Discussion in 'Fibromyalgia Main Forum' started by RedB, May 29, 2003.

  1. RedB

    RedB New Member

    Does anyone know anything that can be done to help a dog with renal (kidney) disease?

    She is rapidly losing interest in food of any kind, so we can't give her the special kidney diet food from the Vet. She is not yet at death's door, but she definitely is not feeling well, and I'm afraid it won't be long....

    She is our loving friend, and my walking partner for 9 years, and it is so sad to think of losing her.

    This happened to one of our cats a year ago, and it is terrible to watch them slowly starving to death, and yet being so alert.

    Kathy
  2. garyandkim

    garyandkim New Member

    is world famous. And she was happy and not in pain. You can phone her. Her Name is Nancy O. Brown VMD and is located in Plymouth Meeting Pa. My parents went all over trying to find someone who could help. This vet isn't cheep and the meds had to be specially made for Tosha and cost $600.00 per month and were specially made by one of the large drug companies. I hope you have success in finding help. It is so hard to watch a loved one in need of help. Please phone her, she was the only one that didn't say put here to sleep.

    Good luck and take care, Kim
  3. mitch123

    mitch123 New Member

    Kathy, my heart goes out to you!! Dogs are the best friends ever, so sorry about this.The only thing i can suggest is Chinese herb medicine or do you have a vet who treats animals with holistic and modern medicine, that would be worth a try.
    Take care
    mitch
  4. Shirl

    Shirl New Member

    Am so sorry about your baby, I love my dogs like children, and having so many through out the years I have lost quite a few of them.

    I can't help other than to tell you that when I have one that does not want to eat, its usually because of a stomach problem.
    If I can get them to eat Yogurt(which all dogs usually love), the plain natural kind (Dannon's is a good brand), it usually helps their appetite. after eating yogurt, then they will eat their food. I put the Probotics (empty a capsule in the yogurt). Its great for them.

    It sure can't hurt, and might help.

    Let us know how she is doing. I will pray for your pup...

    Shalom, Shirl


    Shalom, Shirl
  5. Dara

    Dara New Member

    liver failure he also would not eat. Of course, the vet told me that the Dog actually knows what is best for themselves. But, I bought jars of baby food, I believe his favorite was the chicken. Just the meat baby food, nothing else added. This always seemed to work. I would hand feed him using a spoon and he would start by licking the spoon and that just seemed to get his appetite going. He would at least take his medications that way. I know I have heard of Dog's being on dyalisis (sp??) before. I don't know what area you live in, but we have a great Animal hospital here that specializes in unique medical problems, it is called Dove Lewis Animal Clinic, in Portland Oregon.

    Our Dog started having epilepsy at 18 months old. We had to start giving him phenobarbitol, which is really hard on their liver. Well, needless to say, after six years there was nothing more we could do for him. He was like a child to us, it was so so hard. We knew that we probably should have put him down long before we did, but we just couldn't do it.


    Dara
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  6. Princessraye

    Princessraye New Member

    Hello

    sorry to hear about your sick doggy.
    My kitty will be 19 years old next month. He started not being able to have bowel movements which is what happened to his brothers. (my brother had them) They died after many expensive trips to the vet. I don't have that kind of money. I searched the net and found to add pumpkin, hairball medicine and dairy to his diet. He is doing great.
    If I had not searched the net for ideas, I believe he would have been put to sleep.
    So see what you can find and good luck !
    [This Message was Edited on 05/30/2003]
  7. Kelliegirl

    Kelliegirl New Member

    I just lost my best friend after 16 years do to kidney failure. He was like my child and im still grieving for him. My vet said that animals over-produce urine when thier kidneys fail which causes the uncontrollable wetting. I know how hard it is and my thoughts and prayers are with you and your beloved friend.
  8. Shirl

    Shirl New Member

    I was just wondering, as so many of these animals you are speaking about have the same problem with the kidneys?

    Have you tried giving your dog distilled water in a bottle? or boiling the water to get the chemicals out?

    Just a though here............

    Shalom, Shirl
  9. pam_d

    pam_d New Member

    I am so sorry----my cats mean the world to me, and I know how hard it is to watch them struggle with illness.

    There are vet specialists now just like specialists for humans----it would at least be worth the $$ for an evaluation of her condition & to see if successful treatment is possible, and what that would entail.

    That said, I also believe that though I would do just about anything (including spend much $$$$) to help my cats through illness, I also would never, EVER want to see them suffer through a slow, lingering terminal illness. I personally would chose to end their suffering before it got horrible. I had to go through this with my elderly dog when I was age 8. Even at that young age, I saw the painful look in my dog's eyes, and knew saying goodbye & ending his suffering was the best choice in a situation with no good options.

    Kathy, I hope you can find a way to get your dog some kind of treatment that will help. I hope you don't have to lose her either; our pets are the best sources of that wonderful, unconditional love & acceptance, and sometimes are what gets us out of bed in the morning.

    Please let keep us posted.....

    Hugs,
    Pam
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  10. dd

    dd New Member

    I don't have any advice but just wanted to say that I know how you are feeling.

    My furr babies are not just animals they are members of our falily. I just recenly lost 1 of our beloved cats...in February...we still miss him terribly. Our dog Thor now has cancer and the vet has given him about a year to live because they say there is nothing they can do because it has spead. So, for now we are babying him and giving him extra, extra love and attention.

    I hope that you can find a treatment that will help your little one. I feel for you.

    Peace,

    Debbie
  11. klutzo

    klutzo New Member

    We lost one of our cats last year to kidney disease, so I empathize. I think the reason animals get this so often is that they must eat so much protein to be healthy and it wears out their kidneys eventually. I do not know if alternative veterinarians could help with acupuncture or anything, but you might try it.
    I don't really know what to say except I understand. I get far more upset when one of our dogs or cats dies that I do when most people die. They are like angels here on earth to me. One of our dogs is getting bad arthritis now, and without glucosamine powder we might have had to put him down already, so there may be some unconventional things you could still try; I don't know.
    My heart goes out to you. KLutzo
  12. RedB

    RedB New Member

    Poor old Darby -- she is a beautiful white German Shepherd. We have given her glucosamine since 6 months of age because of arthritis, can you imagine? But, she lives for her walks with me, and her ball playing with my husband.

    She is not horribly sick as yet, which was why I was confused about her not wanting ANY food. I have been doing some research, and apparently renal failure causes nausea --thus the loss of appetite. There are some special diet recipes out there which I copied, because they sound like they might interest her more than the horrid KD diet by Hills. It's like Play Doh!!

    Today Darby ate everything she was given -- go figure. Some of the research I found says to feed low-protein diets, and other research declares that no medical proof has ever been given for that.

    My husband and I have been married for 32 years. In the course of that time, we have given homes to something like 25 stray cats, and 4 dogs. We have spent a small fortune on them, and even traveled to special hospitals to have procedures done. Our friends have considered us crazy.

    We are nearing retirement, and we now have reached the point where we just cannot spent the big $$s anymore. We just give them the best that we can give (and believe me, it's pretty hard to live better lives than what they all have here). And we quietly put them to rest in our arms before they become horribly ill. We have a great vet. It costs a bit more, but he anesthesizes (sp?) them first, then gives them the final shot. This way, they are totally not aware that they are taking their last breath.

    If only some kind soul would do that to me some day.

    Thank you again,
    Kathy
  13. Princessraye

    Princessraye New Member

    When they get ill if there is something not too painful or expensive I do it for them. My cat who will be 19 next month has diabetes for 8 years. I gave him shots twice a day and then it went away. Rare but it happens.
    I am 45 but don't have the money either.
    On the other hand my brother does and can't let go and although he loves his cats he leaves them on this earth much too long trying to cure something they can't cure and the animals don't understand they just know they don't feel well.
    The internet is really a great source of information on things to help animals.

    I often wonder if it is easier for me than for my brother (to let the cats go) because I know what it is like to live in pain and he does not ???? Just a thought.

    Hope things look up for your friend.
  14. JannyW

    JannyW New Member

    Kathy,
    I know Eukanuba makes Rx diets ... I had my old dachsie on their "early stage kidney" diet. You can probably have your vet order it, or if there is a Petsmart near you, they may carry it there.

    Hope this is of help.

    Jan ^v^
  15. athome

    athome New Member

    I WILL KEEP YOU AND YOUR SWEET DOG IN MY PRAYERS. SENDING HEALING AND PEACEFUL LIGHT.
  16. Bacci

    Bacci New Member

    Hi K,
    I responded to your other post about salt as well but wanted to send a note to you about your dog too. Both my cats died last year within two weeks of each other, both age 7 (not related), and both from kidney failure. It was shocking and depressing. The first one had been diagnosed with kidney failure about six months before. So, after spending over $1500 at the vet, they told me I would have to give her subcutaneous fluids every day for ten minutes. This meant I had to set up and IV (not hard) and then put a needle under her skin and turn on the IV to pump for five or ten mins. It was hard to do this to her because she didn't like it and squirmed around alot. Plus, it meant I had to be there every day--could never go away not even for a week-end. I was ok with that because I loved her so much. After a few months, we tapered down to every other day, then twice a week but she was obviously not happy. One night she started panting and couldn't move and I took her straight to the emergency hosp and had her put down. This is so hard for me to write even now and I can't stop crying. I think everyone has to do what they feel is best for their pet, there is no "one" answer. I felt I had to do my best to try all of this and spend several hundred dolllars a month, but then that night, I knew I had to let go. Two weeks later, my asymptomatic other cat went into convulsions and died. We decided to do an autopsy on him and found he had kidney and heart failure. I still don't know how all three of us got so sick.

    Anyway, subcutaneous fluids can be given and your doctor can work out a schedule with you and teach you how to get started. It's labor intensive but getss easier over time.

    I hope you have better luck than me and hope your furry friend is around for years to come.

    Bacci
    (my cat's name)
  17. Jinx69

    Jinx69 New Member

    So sorry to hear about your wonderful dog being so ill. Have you gotten a second opinion?

    My pup of 9 years had cancer last year. Her primary vet did the biopsy and surgery. But he didn't know much about cancer. I luckily decided to get a 2nd opinion, and found a vet who knew about animal oncology. We decided to treat it with chemo once, and if it didn't work, then we'd ease her through it. She has been in remission for almost a year now.

    Don't give up hope. Miracles happen.

    I, too, found alot of good info on the web about pet care.

    I'll be praying for you and your pup.